You do know that the second point in this post contradicts the first.
As does the P.S., actually.
The negative response you’ve gotten is because you come across here like a total jerk. You’re basically saying “anyone who doesn’t think the same way I do about fashion is a loser/dork/etc”. There are plenty of extremely successful people who have totally different ideas then you about fashion- why should I take your version over theirs? I don’t like to wear suits- I don’t have to at work- so what’s wrong with that? Why do you insist on insulting people because of the way they dress?
I’m picturing this.
Nope, because (so far as I know) Barney never attacked anyone for choosing not to wear a suit. He just wears them and lauds their positive qualities.
That’s why you’re getting dumped on, by the way, OP: it’s not because you like suits, it’s because you’re telling everyone who doesn’t wear one that they look like shit and probably don’t shower. Don’t be an asshole.
About 2 years ago, I went to Memorial service for dear fallen friend. The church was packed, had to have been at least a couple hundred people there.
I wore a suit. It was uncomfortable, but it was a solemn occasion. A lot of the men wore suits.
But there were more than few people who showed up in shorts and t-shirts. A couple in flip-flops, ferchrissakes. I’m pretty liberal, but I have to admit I was appalled.
When it comes to a job, I will dress as the job requires.
I was tech support for a firm selling medical sensors and software back in the nineties. I wore jeans and a t shirt. We had few visitors to the office, of those most were the Bill Gates type (Impress me with what you can do and I won’t care what you wear). The boss (who owned the business) dressed in jeans and a t shirt 95% of the time. He made it clear that he was the boss because he knew every aspect of the business and got things done.
For a summer, I worked as an editor for Weird Tales. My boss was a former lieutenant colonel. He looked like Happy of the seven dwarves in khakis and a button down shirt. Besides exuding confidence and giving gentle guidance, when you really screwed up that man could be terrifying. I firmly believe he had the power to make marines wet themselves and could turn away a pack of wolves. He would be similarly inspiring or intimidating regardless of what he wore.
At weddings, funerals and bar mitzvahs I will dress as the guest of honor would want. It’s their day and they should get their way.
I met my last two gf’s wearing jeans and a t-shirt.
My friend Michael is a metrosexual. He looks sharp whatever he wears. He is a living refutal of the statement that anybody in jeans and a t shirt looks like a bum.
Not old enough to project “alpha male” without props, apparently. It’ll be a few more years before he realizes it’s the man in the suit (or whatever he’s wearing), not the suit on the man.
Nothing good looking about a suit? Are you nuts?
Ever read GQ Magazine? They would highly disagree with you.
Also many others would disagree with you who are involved in fashion for a living. They would just laugh at you for making that comment. Now if you went into a dive bar and asked a bunch of hillibillies that question, they probably would agree with you. Because they have no class, no style, or teeth. They also think wearing a pair of blue pullovers for a wedding is acceptable. Please do not try to argue this point with me, cause you will lose. The only people that think the way you do are people who have no fashion sense. Anyone with fashion sense would laugh in your face. That is a fact and you can have all the brains in the world and still be ignorant when it comes to sense of style. T-shirt and jeans is not a sense of style. Do you ever see James Bond wear t-shirts and jeans? That answers my question.
I used to pride myself on my style. However, I lived in New York, where it’s an appropriate mode of expression. Most places, today, dressing up for anything but a few well-defined jobs or events has become a sign of stuffiness or membership in a subculture (eg: you might get a pass if you’re gay or Black).
Two other factors. One, we’re a lot heavier today, and heavy people look extra foolish dressed up. Two, suits are made to be costumes, so they don’t fit as well or last as long now.
A suit will always look good if you spend the money to get it tailored. Do you know that certain cuts can make a person look lighter than they really are?
Also…
Do you ever see celebrities on the red carpet wearing t-shirts and jeans? That answers my question. There is a sense of style that is involved in people who have a fashion sense. IF t-shirts and jeans were acceptable, designers would be having people on the red carpet dress in sweats and gym shoes.
Yep, I’m going to go with Troll on this one. Fast appearing, target subject name, looks like he knows his way around a message board, uses weak but inflammatory arguments.
I’m thinking gone by Monday.
Also why is dressing nice a sign of stuffiness in todays culture? Explain that to me.
GQ magazine and people who work in fashion might disagree? Imagine my concern.
Also, are you familiar with the word “because”?
Hey GQ, do you know how many magazines there are in this world?
Using a magazine as a proxy for majority belief is w e a k.
You lack reading comprehension skills- he said the word “objectively”. Do you know what that word means?
Please tell me more about this GQ magazine- you have not mentioned it nearly enough in this thread.
Do you know what a strawman is?
I wear a uniform to work, because I’m more interested in protecting my country than protecting my image.
People who do it without style look overage or straitlaced. People who do it with style look great in an appropriate social context and desperate for attention outisde one.
So dressing with style is bad in todays society? Because people get defensive obviously because they feel they are not in the same social circle as the guy who dresses in expensive shirts and shoes? Right? It makes people feel like the person who dresses really nice thinks they are better than them? Correct?
Well, now you’re just not trying any more.