# The "Make Fun of Herman Cain" Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-make-fun-of-herman-cain-thread/601647>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 2, 2011, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-make-fun-of-herman-cain-thread/601647 "2011-11-02T16:47:28Z")\
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**Author:** ![Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omg_a_Black_Conservative)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2011, 7:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-make-fun-of-herman-cain-thread/601647/61 "2011-11-03T07:40:34Z")

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> [@Princhester](#):
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> Once you realised that you had been caught out, you squeezed out some horseshit and tried to pass it off as something resembling truth. Only in your bizarro world of self deception does “I say my piece then leave it at that” mean “I argue for page after page after page after page but in the end let someone else have the last word.”
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> In other words, you are disingenuous wanker, and when you are caught out you respond by being a disingenous wanker.
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> No surprises there.

“Caught out”? Really now. What exactly does that mean? …Actually, no, never mind. I already know. It doesn’t mean anything, except for you trying to declare victory or some crap like that because mastery of the English language eludes you. Anyway, I didn’t know that saying one’s piece was constrained by time. That’s odd. To play [semantics](http://thesaurus.superglossary.com/other_words_for_Speak_Ones_Piece.html):

> [@](#):
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> Speak Ones Piece as a Noun has these synonyms:
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> have (one’s) say, express (one’s) opinion, say what is on (one’s) mind, vent (one’s) spleen, get a load off (one’s) mind or chest

As I said, I stay for as long as I have something to add to or say about a topic, otherwise I leave. Now I’m sure you’ll be back to tell me how I’m wrong or something or how that’s not _really_ speaking one’s piece. Can’t say I’m all that excited, really, but what can you do?

[QUOTE=Capitaine Zombie]  
Listen fuckwit, if you go for the big words, at least check on them. It’s not like you’re internet deprived, and cant do that.  
[/quote]

Firstly, I don’t think isle/aisle is that big of a word. In fact, I think ‘firstly’ is a bigger word; so is ‘bigger’. Secondly, only people who have nothing of substance to say/add grammar Nazi. I mean, focusing on the fact that I spelled it ‘isle’ instead of ‘aisle’. Really? Surely you could have done better than that.

> [@](#):
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> Otherwise it just makes you look like a mouthpiece parroting right wing radio hosts without ever reading on the subject. On the other hand, it’s a pretty apt definition of your presence on the Dope so far.

Weird. I do believe conservatives, unlike their liberals counterparts, are [more likely to read stuff from the opposite side](http://www.livescience.com/3640-people-choose-news-fits-views.html). Just felt like throwing that random piece of information out there.

> [@](#):
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> \*and I can only wonder why the “other side of the ISLE” thing always come up under Conservatives’ fingers. Maybe it is the correct way to write it, but I doubt it. Hence why I asked and not stated.

I don’t know. Probably just a common misspelling, similar to how people write “say your peace” instead of “say your piece”.

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**Author:** ![Capitaine\_Zombie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e95f7d/32.png) [@Capitaine\_Zombie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capitaine_Zombie)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2011, 8:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-make-fun-of-herman-cain-thread/601647/62 "2011-11-03T08:08:30Z")

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> [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#):
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> Firstly, I don’t think isle/aisle is that big of a word. In fact, I think ‘firstly’ is a bigger word; so is ‘bigger’. Secondly, only people who have nothing of substance to say/add grammar Nazi. I mean, focusing on the fact that I spelled it ‘isle’ instead of ‘aisle’. Really? Surely you could have done better than that.
> 
> I don’t know. Probably just a common misspelling, similar to how people write “say your peace” instead of “say your piece”.

That’s as much a “misspell” as weather is to whether. That’s a fundamental misunderstanding of the meaning of the word. If you cant use words or idioms properly, switch to easier ones, ones that you can actually hope to master in your lifetime.

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**Author:** ![YoDoc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/e68b1a/32.png) [@YoDoc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YoDoc)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2011, 8:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-make-fun-of-herman-cain-thread/601647/63 "2011-11-03T08:42:08Z")

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Hi, I’m twelve. What’s going on here?

(First post, felt right)

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**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2011, 8:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-make-fun-of-herman-cain-thread/601647/64 "2011-11-03T08:44:44Z")

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In that other thread I said that “If you keep engaging OMG on his abortion thang this thread will derail. His “point” has been hashed over in (very) long threads before. Nothing except hijack will come of it” to which you responded

> [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#):
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> Not really since, unlike some others, when I say my piece, I say piece and leave it at that.

but now we learn that…

> [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#):
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> _ **As I said** _, I stay for as long as I have something to add to or say about a topic, otherwise I leave.

Emphasis added. Are you actually capable of posting honestly? As I’ve had to say to many of the more terminally stupid posters on these boards, this is a messageboard. We can look up what you actually said. You can’t hide behind convenient self delusion and re-imagining, dumbshit.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2011, 10:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-make-fun-of-herman-cain-thread/601647/65 "2011-11-03T10:32:55Z")

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Oh, is there a racial angle to this? I just figured Cain’s unsuitability to be president stemmed from his ignorance of and disinterest in relevant issues like economics, science and foreign relations.

Seriously, America… you can do better.

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**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2011, 10:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-make-fun-of-herman-cain-thread/601647/66 "2011-11-03T10:36:35Z")

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Cain is supported by Ann Coulter. I don’t know what else needs to be said about it.

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**Author:** ![G-SE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f0a364/32.png) [@G-SE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/G-SE)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2011, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-make-fun-of-herman-cain-thread/601647/67 "2011-11-03T13:38:05Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> It’s been done already. You’re late to the party (as usual)

\*yawn

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2011, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-make-fun-of-herman-cain-thread/601647/68 "2011-11-03T14:22:28Z")

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> [@G-SE](#):
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> \*yawn

Awwwwwww. Bedtime for sleepy little tykes! Off you go!

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2011, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-make-fun-of-herman-cain-thread/601647/69 "2011-11-03T15:03:26Z")

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OMG come back when you see liberal claiming Cain is not a US citizen and a muslim to boot.

Come back when you see a sign at a liberal rally dressing Cain up like a witch doctor. or comparing Cain to a monkey.

Come back when liberals put out Cain bucks featuring watermelon fried chicken and ribs.

Come back when Cain proposes the exact budget breaking policies and health care law that his liberal predecessors were, and they suddenly become a threat to the sanctity of America.

Until then, shove off.

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**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2011, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-make-fun-of-herman-cain-thread/601647/70 "2011-11-03T15:06:57Z")

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You know, he probably _would_ shove off if people treated his droppings with the indifference they deserve.

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**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2011, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-make-fun-of-herman-cain-thread/601647/71 "2011-11-03T15:52:12Z")

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Just so we’re clear:

Commenting on the staggering economic, business, and social ineptness, not to mention the potential criminal activities, of a black Republican candidate for president: racist

Speculating wildly on the ethnic/cultural origin of a black Democratic candidate for president, and making art representing him and his wife as monkeys, and printing fake money with his caricature and fried chicken, and making art with the White House lawn covered in watermelons: not racist.

This has been a public service announcement by **OMG A Black Douchecanoe**.

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**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2011, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-make-fun-of-herman-cain-thread/601647/72 "2011-11-03T15:53:22Z")

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> [@DianaG](#):
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> You know, he probably _would_ shove off if people treated his droppings with the indifference they deserve.

I have him on ignore, and I STILL insult him, because it’s funny.

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**Author:** ![Spiny\_Norman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@Spiny\_Norman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiny_Norman)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2011, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-make-fun-of-herman-cain-thread/601647/73 "2011-11-03T16:01:18Z")

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> [@brewha](#):
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> Not that I like the guy - but I’m pretty sure(from the rest of the interview) that he meant that China was developing nuclear powered submarines.
> 
> He said develop nuclear capabilities - not create nuclear weapons.

I guess that’s slightly better, in that it would put him roughly 3 decades behind the curve, rather than 5. China has its second generation of SSBNs _deployed_.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2011, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-make-fun-of-herman-cain-thread/601647/74 "2011-11-03T16:09:31Z")

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> [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#):
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> Inner caricature, you say? Riiight… So how many examples would you like?

Anything that isn’t [nutpicking](http://www.urbandictionary.co/define.php?term=nutpicking).

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2011, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-make-fun-of-herman-cain-thread/601647/75 "2011-11-03T16:16:14Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Oh, is there a racial angle to this? I just figured Cain’s unsuitability to be president stemmed from his ignorance of and disinterest in relevant issues like economics, science and foreign relations.
> 
> Seriously, America… you can do better.

I thought he was just fucking stupid (and ignorant too).

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**Author:** ![elmwood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmwood/32/3060_2.png) [@elmwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elmwood)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2011, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-make-fun-of-herman-cain-thread/601647/76 "2011-11-03T16:19:16Z")

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9-9-9 sounds so much like a pizza special - nine toppings for $9, or nine inch pizza and nine wings for $9.

Turn it upside down, and have another look. Surprised the evangelicals haven’t picked up on that.

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**Author:** ![Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omg_a_Black_Conservative)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2011, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-make-fun-of-herman-cain-thread/601647/77 "2011-11-03T16:20:25Z")

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> [@Capitaine\_Zombie](#):
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> That’s as much a “misspell” as weather is to whether. That’s a fundamental misunderstanding of the meaning of the word. If you cant use words or idioms properly, switch to easier ones, ones that you can actually hope to master in your lifetime.

Fundamental misunderstanding? Naw, just a misspelling. They happen quite commonly, even on this board. I mean, I could do the same thing and start parsing people’s posts for errors in syntax, diction, detail, syntax structure, effectiveness and spelling, but that’d just be plain old sad. And since I’m not, I don’t do that.

(A shame you didn’t respond to my link ;))

> [@Princhester](#):
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> In that other thread I said that “If you keep engaging OMG on his abortion thang this thread will derail. His “point” has been hashed over in (very) long threads before. Nothing except hijack will come of it” to which you responded.
> 
> but now we learn that…
> 
> Emphasis added. Are you actually capable of posting honestly? As I’ve had to say to many of the more terminally stupid posters on these boards, this is a messageboard. We can look up what you actually said. You can’t hide behind convenient self delusion and re-imagining, dumbshit.

…Yeah. Right. Keep grasping at those straws there. I’m sure sooner or later you’ll get to some point. I mean, did you even _read_ my last post? Is your grasp at the English language this pitiful? So you’re bringing attention to something I already said I said in order to get me in a “Gotcha!” because I said I say my piece and tend to leave it at that? Weird.

Again I point out that, since it went ignored before, saying one’s piece isn’t constrained by a time limit. Saying one’s piece means to say what one has to say or to opine on some subject (especially one you do not like), point blank. Whether it takes a sentence or a day, is quite immaterial. And after I’ve said what I’ve had to say, as I said, I just up and leave, as I said, letting whomever wants have the last word, as I said. All of which I said before, as I said, but it’s like that’s important or anything. Really.

And fwiw, in that thread, you were the one with the hijack. Ironic, really.

(Oh, and that thread is also proof that this board is filled with partisan hacks who treat their party as head and shoulders better than the other.)

> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> OMG come back when you see liberal claiming Cain is not a US citizen and a muslim to boot.
> 
> Come back when you see a sign at a liberal rally dressing Cain up like a witch doctor. or comparing Cain to a monkey.
> 
> Come back when liberals put out Cain bucks featuring watermelon fried chicken and ribs.
> 
> Come back when Cain proposes the exact budget breaking policies and health care law that his liberal predecessors were, and they suddenly become a threat to the sanctity of America.
> 
> Until then, shove off.

I lol’ed. I guess it’s time to go back to the drawing board. Here is the liberal claim:

1.) Obama is Black.  
2.) Therefore, Republicans/conservatives hate Obama because he’s Black.

(Again, I **dare** someone to tell me this sentiment isn’t spread by liberals both on this board and off of it.)

Now enter Herman Cain.

3.) Herman Cain is Black.  
4.) Republicans/conservatives don’t hate him even though he’s Black.

But… But… But how can this **BE**? Something is amiss here, wouldn’t you say? Those silly racists. Apparently they don’t realize that Herman Cain is Black. Or Colin Powell. Or Allen West. Or Clarence Thomas. Or…

[QUOTE=DianaG]  
You know, he probably would shove off if people treated his droppings with the indifference they deserve.  
[/quote]

_thinks_

I vaguely remember you. You’re the chick who made a bunch of unsubstantiated claims, and then when I gave you stuff to read ran off, right?

> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> Anything that isn’t nutpicking.

So how many?

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2011, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-make-fun-of-herman-cain-thread/601647/78 "2011-11-03T16:27:29Z")

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Herman Cain: The Man Who Will Never, Ever, Be King.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2011, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-make-fun-of-herman-cain-thread/601647/79 "2011-11-03T16:38:30Z")

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> [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#):
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> Fundamental misunderstanding? Naw, just a misspelling.

It’s not a misspelling, you misused a homophone.

Of course, you probably think I just called you gay…

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2011, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-make-fun-of-herman-cain-thread/601647/80 "2011-11-03T16:47:29Z")

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> [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#):
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> I lol’ed. I guess it’s time to go back to the drawing board. Here is the liberal claim:
> 
> 1.) Obama is Black.  
> 2.) Therefore, Republicans/conservatives hate Obama because he’s Black.
> 
> (Again, I **dare** someone to tell me this sentiment isn’t spread by liberals both on this board and off of it.)
> 
> Now enter Herman Cain.
> 
> 3.) Herman Cain is Black.  
> 4.) Republicans/conservatives don’t hate him even though he’s Black.
> 
> But… But… But how can this **BE**? Something is amiss here, wouldn’t you say? Those silly racists. Apparently they don’t realize that Herman Cain is Black. Or Colin Powell. Or Allen West. Or Clarence Thomas. Or…

You left out a step (which you know damn well).

1.) Obama is Black.  
2.) Republicans/conservatives talk even more shit about Obama than they do about other Democratic candidates and officeholders.  
3.) Therefore, Republicans/conservatives hate Obama because he’s Black.

In what way has Cain been treated differently than the other Republican candidates?

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