# The "Make Fun of Herman Cain" Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-make-fun-of-herman-cain-thread/601647>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 2, 2011, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-make-fun-of-herman-cain-thread/601647 "2011-11-02T16:47:28Z")\
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**Author:** ![scratch\_llll](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9fc348/32.png) [@scratch\_llll](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scratch_llll)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2011, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-make-fun-of-herman-cain-thread/601647/121 "2011-11-08T04:34:51Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Did he ask you to blow it for him?

Cain doesn’t ask. He is a firm republican decision maker not some wimpy democrat who has to wait until facts are in! He just grabs by the head and forces your face to his crotch. Don’t you want a job? Well it’s a job for a job America.

I don’t understand what anyone even has to know about him except his 999 plan cuts taxes on the rich by application of them to the poor and middle class while at the same time discouraging spending on manufactured goods with the 9% tax on them. Why would he get a vote from anyone not rich or a mindless drone of the rich?

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2011, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-make-fun-of-herman-cain-thread/601647/122 "2011-11-08T05:56:03Z")

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“Climbin’ on board the Cain-Train” sounds like a decidedly sleazy proposition.

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**Author:** ![Truman\_Burbank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@Truman\_Burbank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truman_Burbank)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2011, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-make-fun-of-herman-cain-thread/601647/123 "2011-11-08T22:48:41Z")

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he denies ever having met his latest accuser. I’m gonna go out on a limb and guess there is evidence soon to be presenting proving he’s lying. Seeing as all of his attempts at damage control have been ineffectual, to say the least.

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**Author:** ![G-SE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f0a364/32.png) [@G-SE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/G-SE)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2011, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-make-fun-of-herman-cain-thread/601647/124 "2011-11-08T23:05:54Z")

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> [@Truman\_Burbank](#):
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> Seeing as all of his attempts at damage control have been ineffectual, to say the least.

[Really?](http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/republican_presidential_nomination-1452.html)

Funny how his poll position has remained the same since all these accusations came out, I think he is doing a pretty good job fighting the fake smears and lies.

Even though Cain has accused the Perry campaign to be behind it all, I would look straight at Obongo. He knows without his guaranteed 92% of the racist black vote he has no chance in hell of being reelected.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2011, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-make-fun-of-herman-cain-thread/601647/125 "2011-11-08T23:17:16Z")

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> [@G-SE](#):
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> Funny how his poll position has remained the same since all these accusations came out,

[Funny](http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/11/08/us-usa-campaign-cain-poll-idUSTRE7A770L20111108).

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> Forty percent of Republicans view presidential candidate Herman Cain less favorably after watching a video of a woman accusing him of groping her in a car, according to Reuters/Ipsos poll results released Tuesday.

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2011, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-make-fun-of-herman-cain-thread/601647/126 "2011-11-08T23:21:30Z")

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> [@Truman\_Burbank](#):
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> he denies ever having met his latest accuser. I’m gonna go out on a limb and guess there is evidence soon to be presenting proving he’s lying. Seeing as all of his attempts at damage control have been ineffectual, to say the least.

Gloria Allred also represented the woman Meg Whitman fired. Whitman claimed that she never knew there was an immigration issue, Allred quickly whipped out the letter from immigration with her note on it. (IIRC). She’s been to this rodeo before - I bet she’s waiting until he really goes out on a limb and then saws it off.

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2011, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-make-fun-of-herman-cain-thread/601647/127 "2011-11-08T23:22:46Z")

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> [@scratch\_llll](#):
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> Why would he get a vote from anyone not rich or a mindless drone of the rich?

Mindless drone of the rich describes the Republican base quite nicely.

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**Author:** ![G-SE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f0a364/32.png) [@G-SE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/G-SE)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2011, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-make-fun-of-herman-cain-thread/601647/128 "2011-11-08T23:47:35Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> [Funny](http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/11/08/us-usa-campaign-cain-poll-idUSTRE7A770L20111108).

Sorry, I’d rather look at real poll numbers instead of an online survey.

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> Since the survey was an online poll, typical margins of error do not apply.

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**Author:** ![Truman\_Burbank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@Truman\_Burbank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truman_Burbank)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2011, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-make-fun-of-herman-cain-thread/601647/129 "2011-11-09T00:19:27Z")

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G-SE (what does your user name signify, BTW?), you make a valid point, but I think the real proof of the pudding will not be evident until the issue is ‘behind him’. And, your standards of proof are interesting, going from paranoid evidence-free blaming of Obama to demanding ‘real’ polling…  
And what’s with “Obongo?” Is that supposed to mean anything?

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2011, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-make-fun-of-herman-cain-thread/601647/130 "2011-11-09T00:32:01Z")

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> [@G-SE](#):
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> Even though Cain has accused the Perry campaign to be behind it all, I would look straight at Obongo. He knows without his guaranteed 92% of the racist black vote he has no chance in hell of being reelected.

\<checks forum\>

I’m going to go out on a limb here, and declare that you are an asshole.

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**Author:** ![G-SE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f0a364/32.png) [@G-SE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/G-SE)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2011, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-make-fun-of-herman-cain-thread/601647/131 "2011-11-09T01:26:32Z")

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> [@Truman\_Burbank](#):
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> G-SE (what does your user name signify, BTW?), you make a valid point, but I think the real proof of the pudding will not be evident until the issue is ‘behind him’. And, your standards of proof are interesting, going from paranoid evidence-free blaming of Obama to demanding ‘real’ polling…  
> And what’s with “Obongo?” Is that supposed to mean anything?

You are right that it will take a bit of time to see how these allegations do or do not affect his campaign, but as of yet I’m not seeing any significant impact on his polling numbers.

And you are correct, I have no proof (obviously) to put the blame on Obama, that is just my opinion based on who I think has the most motivation to get Cain out of the race.

Perry is so far behind, I don’t see him gaining anything from it. I think that Romney’s base is a bit different than Cain’s, and I doubt he would gain many voters that would leave Cain.

But Obama’s poll numbers with whites is pretty low, so I am sure he is counting on the black vote. Whether Cain would chip away at that or not is yet to be seen, but I think there would be a strong motivation to keep another black person out of the race.

And Obongo is just a play on words with Obama & his half-brother (Abongo) that really seems to get liberals panties in a twist.

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**Author:** ![G-SE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f0a364/32.png) [@G-SE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/G-SE)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2011, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-make-fun-of-herman-cain-thread/601647/132 "2011-11-09T01:29:29Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> \<checks forum\>
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> I’m going to go out on a limb here, and declare that you are an asshole.

Shouldn’t you be out banging a drum and occupying something?

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**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2011, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-make-fun-of-herman-cain-thread/601647/133 "2011-11-09T01:42:50Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> I can chalk that one up to a slip of the tongue. Sort of along the lines of Obama’s famous “57 states” slip.
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> The abortion thing was the craziest, IMO. Crazy in a “not being able to communicate properly” sense. It should be illegal, but it’s up to the family. And he was given multiple times to explain it, only to confuse the listener even more.

When he defended people’s right to object to a Muslim Community Center being proposed here in TN he showed he lacked a basic understanding of the 1st amendment.  
It’s been all downhill from there.

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**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2011, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-make-fun-of-herman-cain-thread/601647/134 "2011-11-09T01:49:54Z")

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> [@Truman\_Burbank](#):
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> he denies ever having met his latest accuser. I’m gonna go out on a limb and guess there is evidence soon to be presenting proving he’s lying. Seeing as all of his attempts at damage control have been ineffectual, to say the least.

IMO he’s been lying all along and not very well. When you get caught in a lie it’s hard to believe the , “well yes I was accused, and there was a settlement, two in fact, but honest I didn’t do anything wrong”

He’d have been better off to follow Arnold’s example and just admit he’d made some mistakes and was sorry if he had been disrespectful to some women. Then he could simply decline to go into any details by calling it irrelevant to our current problems. As it is, the more he talks, the guiltier he appears. There will be a visceral response by some voters. I suspect he will be fading quickly this next week or two.

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**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2011, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-make-fun-of-herman-cain-thread/601647/135 "2011-11-09T01:54:16Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> [Cain’s campaign](http://www.cnn.com/2011/11/02/politics/cain-allegations/) is blaming Perry’s campaign for leaking the info about the harassment allegations and payoff. Perry’s campaign is claiming innocence, but is blaming Romney’s campaign. This is starting to look like a circular firing squad.
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> This part is interesting:
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> But then if Cain was telling his 2004 campaign people about a harassment case, why was he so surprised and forgetful when it was recently brought up? Did he not tell his current campaign people?

In today’s press conference he talked about the evil of baseless allegations and then immediately blamed the Democrats without having any evidence. Jon S. pointed out the irony of him lashing out at the media and refusing to answer questions

Evidently, No means No. He’s a cartoon.

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**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2011, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-make-fun-of-herman-cain-thread/601647/136 "2011-11-09T01:56:18Z")

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> [@jtgain](#):
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> Didn’t Lincoln symbolically signed the 13th amendment? (Or maybe I’m thinking of another President/Amendment). Anyways, maybe Cain was just saying that he would put his stamp on it, as it were, to emphasize how important it was to him.

also known as pandering with factual errors included.

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**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2011, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-make-fun-of-herman-cain-thread/601647/137 "2011-11-09T01:57:30Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Did he ask you to blow it for him?

{snort}😃

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2011, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-make-fun-of-herman-cain-thread/601647/138 "2011-11-09T02:18:59Z")

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> [@G-SE](#):
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> Shouldn’t you be out banging a drum and occupying something?

Just calling them as I see them. Shouldn’t you be out at an Aryan brothers march or something?

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**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2011, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-make-fun-of-herman-cain-thread/601647/139 "2011-11-09T02:21:09Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Just calling them as I see them. Shouldn’t you be out at an Aryan brothers march or something?

Don’t you see? He only pretends to be a racist to get a rise out of liberals. So it’s all OK.

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**Author:** ![scratch\_llll](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9fc348/32.png) [@scratch\_llll](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scratch_llll)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2011, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-make-fun-of-herman-cain-thread/601647/140 "2011-11-09T04:08:09Z")

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> [@cosmosdan](#):
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> . There will be a visceral response by some voters. I suspect he will be fading quickly this next week or two.

You don’t understand republicans do you? If they gleefully encourage the fiscal rape of the poor and middle class in favor of the rich then what is one more rape? Besides, it’s all the fault of those filthy liberal democrats in their low cut tax me more clothes looking all come hither skinny from not having lunch write-offs. If they want a job then they should expect to give one. You have to raise some Cain to get a job in this economy. Now there is some poll numbers you can sink your teeth in.

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