# The Mandalorian Season 3 \[Open Spoilers\]

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** tv-shows-scripted, disney-hulu\
**Created:** [February 15, 2023, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-mandalorian-season-3-open-spoilers/979857 "2023-02-15T23:48:04Z")\
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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2023, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-mandalorian-season-3-open-spoilers/979857/161 "2023-03-17T05:59:55Z")

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> [@AlsoNamedBort](#):
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> I think that’s where everyone thought the plot was going originally, but Pershing’s idea of splicing clone DNA together didn’t seem to fit with Palpatine’s plan does it? (I never saw Rise of Skywalker).

In Episode IX it’s made clear that Palpatine’s clone body is dying because it’s not capable of containing his essence. Presumably the objective of Pershing’s research would have been to graft some Yoda-species DNA into a Palpatine clone to give it that extra oomph that 900-year-longevity and inherent Force sensitivity gives you.

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**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2023, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-mandalorian-season-3-open-spoilers/979857/162 "2023-03-17T16:14:23Z")

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> [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](#):
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> Another Easter egg: The doctor told the Mon Calamari that, “It was A TRAP!

Yes, I noticed that!

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**Post date:** [March 17, 2023, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-mandalorian-season-3-open-spoilers/979857/163 "2023-03-17T16:18:13Z")

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> [@DSeid](#):
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> Normally I’d believe that. But I kept expecting Boba Fett to tie together and it never really did, and the disjointedness of this season has that feel.
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> I hope to be proven wrong!

It reminded a little bit of Pulp Fiction with its suddenly new storyline, except that film actually came together. I was waiting for Mando to walk out of the bathroom where the doctor was waiting to go in.

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**Post date:** [March 17, 2023, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-mandalorian-season-3-open-spoilers/979857/164 "2023-03-17T16:24:50Z")

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I half expect that this is the last we’ll ever hear about those two characters. Just a one off about how you can’t trust anyone in this transitionary era. Jon Favreau seems more interested in just presenting “A day in the world of Star Wars” rather than epic arcs.

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**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2023, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-mandalorian-season-3-open-spoilers/979857/165 "2023-03-17T16:29:32Z")

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> [@DigitalC](#):
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> One thing I thought was a nice touch was the prevalence of Mon Calamari in post imperial society, both in the higher class and military sectors. They were such an integral part of the rebellion that it stands to reason it would be that way

I thought they liked more like catfish than calamari.

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**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2023, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-mandalorian-season-3-open-spoilers/979857/166 "2023-03-17T16:31:48Z")

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> [@Biffster](#):
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> I thought they liked more like catfish than calamari.

It’s a carp!

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2023, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-mandalorian-season-3-open-spoilers/979857/167 "2023-03-17T16:50:26Z")

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> [@Biffster](#):
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> I thought they liked more like catfish than calamari.

Yeah well, that’s what happens when you let George Lucas name things.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2023, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-mandalorian-season-3-open-spoilers/979857/168 "2023-03-17T17:13:25Z")

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> [@AlsoNamedBort](#):
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> I would be completely shocked if this was just an unrelated one-off. I thought was pretty clearly setting up something. We just don’t know what yet.

I suspect Elia Kane will be an antagonist. She’s working for someone - probably Gideon still. The actor who plays her, Katy O’Brian, is a kick ass martial artist, and I suspect will become a kick ass villain.

However, if Kane’s mission is to gather cloning tech for the future use of Palpatine, **she literally did the opposite of that**. If she wanted to do that, she wouldn’t have betrayed Pershing, she would have helped him pull it off so that, ya know, she could have later stolen the cloning tech. Instead, she got… nothing, just some lab equipment she could have stolen anyway. It would be like saying you wanted to learn how to cook high quality meth, helping Walter White steal some beakers, and then fry his brain and keep the beakers. What she did was to destroy any chance she’d ever get the tech.

So is that still what she’s trying to do and they just fucked it up, and we’re to believe they can make cloning tech out of just common lab equipment because Pershing picked it up and put it in a box? I am afraid to say I think that’s is actually possible, inasmuch as this has been pretty badly written anyway. It’s what Kane was doing before, after all; she was working for Gideon personally, not just serving on his ship.

The episode was in general not well written. I don’t mind a sideline B story but it took forever to get there.

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**Post date:** [March 17, 2023, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-mandalorian-season-3-open-spoilers/979857/169 "2023-03-17T17:21:59Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> However, if Kane’s mission is to gather cloning tech for the future use of Palpatine, **she literally did the opposite of that**.

I don’t think she want to further Pershing’s research for the Empire, she wanted to make sure Pershing wouldn’t do it for the New Republic. The whole point was to get him trapped so she could wipe his mind.

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**Post date:** [March 17, 2023, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-mandalorian-season-3-open-spoilers/979857/170 "2023-03-17T18:16:47Z")

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> [@AlsoNamedBort](#):
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> I don’t think she want to further Pershing’s research for the Empire, she wanted to make sure Pershing wouldn’t do it for the New Republic. The whole point was to get him trapped so she could wipe his mind. &nbsp;

Yeah, to me, her goal was to neutralize Pershing. I’m not sure who she’s working for. Imperial remnant is likely, but I could see some fanatics in the New Republic being happy that cloning tech stays forbidden. That’s why the amnesty prisoners use code names instead of their actual names, to protect them from those who’d hurt them for ideology or revenge.

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**Post date:** [March 17, 2023, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-mandalorian-season-3-open-spoilers/979857/171 "2023-03-17T18:34:49Z")

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> [@AlsoNamedBort](#):
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> The whole point was to get him trapped so she could wipe his mind.

But what a ridiculously convoluted way to go about it. Maybe the whole thing was just to score brownie points with the Republic.

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**Post date:** [March 17, 2023, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-mandalorian-season-3-open-spoilers/979857/172 "2023-03-17T20:38:26Z")

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And now, an episode guest-starring… another show. This season’s been all over the place. I’m starting to think that whatever the plan was for this season, it’s been blown apart by executives insisting on bringing baby Yoda back - can’t lose their viral merchandising golden cow! - and showcasing their upcoming show about the New Republic, or whatever this last episode was.

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**Post date:** [March 17, 2023, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-mandalorian-season-3-open-spoilers/979857/173 "2023-03-17T20:40:14Z")

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> [@Randolph](#):
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> and showcasing their upcoming show about the New Republic, or whatever this last episode was.

The New Republic show is dead because of Gina Carino.

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**Post date:** [March 17, 2023, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-mandalorian-season-3-open-spoilers/979857/174 "2023-03-17T20:45:00Z")

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> [@AlsoNamedBort](#):
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> I don’t think she want to further Pershing’s research for the Empire, she wanted to make sure Pershing wouldn’t do it for the New Republic. The whole point was to get him trapped so she could wipe his mind.

That could be, but if so we’ll be going in a very different direction. It can’t line up with anything Moff Gideon would want. It would be odd, too, since it’s a dead end move; the New Republic didn’t want his research anyway.

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**Post date:** [March 17, 2023, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-mandalorian-season-3-open-spoilers/979857/175 "2023-03-17T20:58:27Z")

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> [@AlsoNamedBort](#):
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> The New Republic show is dead because of Gina Carino.

Her show was basically space Texas Ranger, Coruscant intrigue is something completely unrelated.

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**Post date:** [March 17, 2023, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-mandalorian-season-3-open-spoilers/979857/176 "2023-03-17T21:03:01Z")

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> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#):
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> > [@AlsoNamedBort](#):
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> > The whole point was to get him trapped so she could wipe his mind.
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> But what a ridiculously convoluted way to go about it. Maybe the whole thing was just to score brownie points with the Republic.

In the first place I agree. I could argue that this does two things; helps secure her standing with the New Republic as she works to become a higher-placed mole for Moff Gideon/First Order. In the second, it provided a semi-legitimate way to deny Persing’s expertise and knowledge in any capacity to the New Republic.

Shoot/stab in a back alley, even a ‘convenient accident’, there’s the chance it might be investigated and raise inconvenient questions. (unlikely, but possible) But this was all above-board rehabilitation except for a seeming equipment malfunction … which is totally undercut by her remaining behind with a witness to testify to it. I would presume that after a short time she turned the dial back to its original position and plays the innocent card to the hilt when it’s discovered but still, way too suspicious.

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**Post date:** [March 22, 2023, 8:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-mandalorian-season-3-open-spoilers/979857/177 "2023-03-22T08:29:26Z")

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This episode was the shortest yet, but they managed to pack a lot into it. The tribe really needs to find a better hideout, between the giant space crocodiles and the youngling-snatching giant space pterodactyls, at least three of whom are going to need some extra-large helmets when they come of age. (At least the former ate the latter.) We learned a few new things about the Children’s culture, like how they eat as a group (they don’t) and that at least some of them, such as Paz’s son Ragnar, are born into the tribe (which raises the question of how they get intimate with all that beskar in the way.) I’m a little confused as to how Paz’s son is alive considering that Paz, the Armorer, and Din are the only survivors of the covert on Nevarro - do the Children of the Watch have some sort of exchange program for their younglings? The scene where the Mandalorians are freeclimbing the peak the space pterodactyl was nesting atop of was beautifully shot, and even though I know they’re acting in front of a giant green screen it really set off my fear of heights to see the canyons and rivers so far off underneath them.

The Jedi who saved Grogu from Order 66 in the flashback is apparently named Kelleran Beq, and is played by none other than Jar-Jar Binks himself, Ahmed Best. Good to see him get to play such a pivotal role in the show after all the hate he got back in the day.

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**Post date:** [March 22, 2023, 9:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-mandalorian-season-3-open-spoilers/979857/178 "2023-03-22T09:42:02Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> apparently named Kelleran Beq

Disney put out a Star Wars themed game show called _Jedi Temple Challenge_, and it was hosted by Ahmed Best playing the character of Kelleran Beq. This is like one step beyond putting in Paul Reubens’s droid from Star Tours.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/ynDMTiamRRY/maxresdefault.jpg "Star Wars: Jedi Temple Challenge - Trailer") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynDMTiamRRY)

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**Post date:** [March 22, 2023, 10:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-mandalorian-season-3-open-spoilers/979857/179 "2023-03-22T10:03:02Z")

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> [@GuanoLad](#):
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> This is like one step beyond putting in Paul Reubens’s droid from Star Tours.

They’re probably saving that for the series finale.

On an unrelated note, here’s a wholesome tweet from Omid Abtahi, the actor who plays Dr. Pershing;

> <https://twitter.com/AbtahiOmid/status/1637928581472067586>

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**Post date:** [March 23, 2023, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-mandalorian-season-3-open-spoilers/979857/180 "2023-03-23T01:02:31Z")

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“Um guys, maybe we shouldn’t use the giant dinosaur feeding ground as the place where we do all our training and ceremonies.”  
– Merv , the Practical Mandalorian

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