# The Mandela Effect is plaguing me again **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** cartoons-animation\ **Created:** [May 20, 2023, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-mandela-effect-is-plaguing-me-again/984338 "2023-05-20T18:09:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2024, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-mandela-effect-is-plaguing-me-again/984338/21 "2024-07-16T13:54:23Z")
I can’t remember where I put my keys. Is that the Mandela Effect again. ---
**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2024, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-mandela-effect-is-plaguing-me-again/984338/22 "2024-07-16T15:16:12Z")
No, the Mandela Effect is when you’re certain your door key is brass-colored and it’s been brass colored ever since you got it years ago; but when you pull it out of your pocket and look at it, it’s silver-colored. ---
**Author:** ![Smid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/838e76/32.png) [@Smid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smid)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2024, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-mandela-effect-is-plaguing-me-again/984338/23 "2024-07-16T18:06:44Z")
That sounds like dementia to me. ---
**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2024, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-mandela-effect-is-plaguing-me-again/984338/24 "2024-07-16T18:09:14Z")
Well strictly I suppose it has to something that more than one person is certain of to qualify as the Mandela Effect rather than dementia. ---
**Author:** ![suranyi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@suranyi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/suranyi)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2024, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-mandela-effect-is-plaguing-me-again/984338/25 "2024-07-16T19:04:31Z")
To be honest, I never understood the “Mandela” part of the Mandela effect. Like, people actually thought he had died in prison? Doesn’t everyone remember the very prominent news about him becoming president of South Africa? ---
**Author:** ![Pavelb1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@Pavelb1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pavelb1)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2024, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-mandela-effect-is-plaguing-me-again/984338/26 "2024-07-16T19:33:02Z")
There’s a little more too it…and you KNOW its brass colored because for years you and your best friend you havent spoken to in years would sing Brass Monkey because of the set of keys. ---
**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2024, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-mandela-effect-is-plaguing-me-again/984338/27 "2024-07-16T20:26:15Z")
> [@suranyi](#): > > Doesn’t everyone remember the very prominent news about him becoming president of South Africa? [Or getting attacked in the White House by President Franken?](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Why_Not_Me%3F_(novel)) ---
**Author:** ![Smid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/838e76/32.png) [@Smid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smid)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2024, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-mandela-effect-is-plaguing-me-again/984338/28 "2024-07-17T00:20:05Z")
> [@Pavelb1](#): > > There’s a little more too it…and you KNOW its brass colored because for years you and your best friend you havent spoken to in years would sing Brass Monkey because of the set of keys. I’d buy this as an effect if I didn’t just simply see it as “a bunch of idiots cannot tell the difference between Steve Biko and Nelson Mandela and are really really stubborn that they’re not racists, idiots or both”. ---
**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2024, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-mandela-effect-is-plaguing-me-again/984338/29 "2024-07-17T17:30:40Z")
Three things about the Mandela Effect: 1. Why are so many of these minor visual details about something, or spelling? Where are the people who remember different major historical events or completely different countries? 2. How does the changeover between realities work? Do people physically enter the new reality, and if so, when? If it’s a retroactive change, why doesn’t it affect everybody? Did Mandela in the new reality have memories of his own death in prison? ---
**Author:** ![Pavelb1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@Pavelb1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pavelb1)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2024, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-mandela-effect-is-plaguing-me-again/984338/30 "2024-07-17T17:40:25Z")
In my reality you had three things not two. Here’s one I’ve encountered Kevin Costner was the German sniper in Saving Private Ryan. Now he’s not. Ann Jillian died of breast cancer. That’s why she fell off the face of the earth. now she didn’t. She did get breast cancer but she didnt die. ---
**Author:** ![Smid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/838e76/32.png) [@Smid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smid)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2024, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-mandela-effect-is-plaguing-me-again/984338/31 "2024-07-17T18:02:21Z")
> [@De\_La\_Rue](#): > > Why are so many of these minor visual details about something, or spelling? Where are the people who remember different major historical events or completely different countries? Because it’s usually parodies being misremembered, and people can’t spell. Especially people with “mental focus problems” (ie: schizophreniacs) > [@](#): > > How does the changeover between realities work? You stop taking your anti-schizophrenia medication. ---
**Author:** ![markn\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@markn\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/markn_1)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2024, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-mandela-effect-is-plaguing-me-again/984338/32 "2024-07-17T18:26:57Z")
> [@De\_La\_Rue](#): > > 1. Why are so many of these minor visual details about something, or spelling? Where are the people who remember different major historical events or completely different countries? I could swear that there used to be Mandela effects related to major historical events. Some of my friends remember this too. But now I can’t find any examples. It’s really weird. ---
**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2024, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-mandela-effect-is-plaguing-me-again/984338/33 "2024-07-17T19:22:55Z")
> [@De\_La\_Rue](#): > > 1. Why are so many of these minor visual details about something, or spelling? Where are the people who remember different major historical events or completely different countries? I mean… it is named after a major historical event that people misremembered. A new one to me is from Moonraker. Jaws’ new girlfriend in the movie DOES NOT have braces… a lot of people remember the reveal of her having braces as being a big cute moment in the movie. I even did…but after having watched the scene again, I think people are experiencing a kind of “fill in the blank.” The scene would be so much better if she DID have braces. So peoples’ internal screenwriters corrected the actual movie’s mistake. ---
**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2024, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-mandela-effect-is-plaguing-me-again/984338/34 "2024-07-17T20:38:20Z")
> [@Push\_You\_Down](#): > > I mean… it is named after a major historical event that people misremembered. I THOUGHT I added “(Mandela aside)”, but this is obviously the universe in which I decided not to, despite anticipating that someone would remind us that the phenomenon is admittedly named in reference to Nelson Mandela. And, well, here we are. ---
**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2024, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-mandela-effect-is-plaguing-me-again/984338/35 "2024-07-17T20:48:58Z")
> [@De\_La\_Rue](#): > > I THOUGHT I added “(Mandela aside)”, but this is obviously the universe in which I decided not to, despite anticipating that someone would remind us that the phenomenon is admittedly named in reference to Nelson Mandela. And, well, here we are. The irony…some people remember your post as saying “Mandala aside.” And I’ve always thought Mandala Effect actually worked just as well as a descriptor. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2024, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-mandela-effect-is-plaguing-me-again/984338/36 "2024-07-17T21:57:13Z")
I’ve always thought it was the Mandala Effect, about how we go back to check the patterns they are always different than what we remembered. ---
**Author:** ![Smid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/838e76/32.png) [@Smid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smid)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2024, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-mandela-effect-is-plaguing-me-again/984338/37 "2024-07-17T22:13:29Z")
I don’t believe in the Mandela effect, and I have a case of it, which when having asked around, got solved. During the film **Man bites dog** , I remember a bit where they’re throwing a corpse off a bridge. On a rewatch of that film, the scene wasn’t there, I asked around, and someone pointed out that the first episode of **The Sopranos** has such a scene. The explanation was simple, I’d watched both movies/shows around the same time and the similar horrible scenes had merged across into a single memory. It was my mistake of my memory. Possibly merged in a dream, when my mind was garbage collecting. No reality altering explanation. Memory is hazy. But, hell, let’s have a weird reality altering theory, based on **The Matrix** starring Samuel L. Jackson. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2024, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-mandela-effect-is-plaguing-me-again/984338/38 "2024-07-17T22:22:19Z")
So THAT’S why I remember Samuel L. Jackson playing Cowboy Carl on Pee Wee’s Playhouse! ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2024, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-mandela-effect-is-plaguing-me-again/984338/39 "2024-07-17T23:40:12Z")
> [@markn\_1](#): > > Some of my friends remember this too. But now I can’t find any examples. It’s really weird. None exist…in this universe. > [@Push\_You\_Down](#): > > And I’ve always thought Mandala Effect I my universe it was Mandela effect. The mandala effect is when you spin a black and white Hindu symbol fast and it turns to color. ---
**Author:** ![EnolaStraight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/41988e/32.png) [@EnolaStraight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EnolaStraight)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2024, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-mandela-effect-is-plaguing-me-again/984338/40 "2024-07-18T02:20:25Z")
You _almost_ got it right. In **CUBE** , the stars are Nicole “Ezri Dax” de Boer (Deep Space Nine), and David Hewlett, Rodney McKay from Stargate Atlantis The guy from Forever Night was in the sequel, **Hypercube** BTW… Does anybody remember in Star Trek:The Voyage Home…when Kirk and the gang were breaking Chekov out of the hospital, and some doctor tries to call security, Kirk applies the “Famous Spock Nerve Pinch” and knocks him out…and stares at his hand like he couldn’t believe it actually worked. I found not a single video of that scene ANYWHERE…I’m SURE I’ve seen it in the movies. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-mandela-effect-is-plaguing-me-again/984338.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-mandela-effect-is-plaguing-me-again/984338.md?page=3)