# The Mandela Effect is plaguing me again

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** cartoons-animation\
**Created:** [May 20, 2023, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-mandela-effect-is-plaguing-me-again/984338 "2023-05-20T18:09:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
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Picard learned how to do it, as did Data.

LOL, that was as close a ninja’ing as I’ve ever seen. 🤪

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I don’t. I remember McCoy trying in TSFS and it not working. I remember Data doing it. I THINK Picard did it in that ep where he was stuck alone on the ship with terrorists

A Trek one for me was I could have sworn when I saw TMP….during the transporter accident the two unfortunate souls started to merge with each other…but that didn’t happen. Fortunately.

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**Post date:** [July 18, 2024, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-mandela-effect-is-plaguing-me-again/984338/43 "2024-07-18T02:57:36Z")

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On the topic of silver vs brass coloring, and Mandela effect, how about C3PO’s leg in the OG Star Wars? Although it was technically silver, as in, it was repaired or patched up recently, many of us thought the entire robot was brass / gold colored. I did.

I offer these two explanations:  
(1) The many toys and posters featured a fully brass colored C3PO, and who didn’t a bunch of Star Wars toys in the late 70’s through the 80’s? I mean, Lucas’ big genius move was to secure the rights to all the toys, and make his fortune, so these were terribly numerous.  
(2) Silver reflects incoming light, and the desert, where we often saw C3PO in full profile, has yellow-colored dunes all around. Which helped make the reflective silver look more like gold. In the interior shots, we (IIRC) usually see C3PO from the waist up.

It’s only in recent times that I’ve seen the models or figurines of C3PO with a silver colored leg.

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> [@EnolaStraight](#):
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> Does anybody remember in Star Trek:The Voyage Home…when Kirk and the gang were breaking Chekov out of the hospital, and some doctor tries to call security, Kirk applies the “Famous Spock Nerve Pinch” and knocks him out…and stares at his hand like he couldn’t believe it actually worked.

Nope. Never happened.  
And that’s the problem with the Mandela Effect. I distinctly remember Ed McMahon shilling for American Family Publishers so what does that mean? I came from this universe? Not the Publisher’s Clearinghouse one? No one can explain what it means when you don’t misremember facts.

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**Post date:** [July 18, 2024, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-mandela-effect-is-plaguing-me-again/984338/45 "2024-07-18T03:03:05Z")

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> [@Pavelb1](#):
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> I THINK Picard did it in that ep where he was stuck alone on the ship with terrorists

If this was after his mind meld with Sarek, perhaps that’s how Picard could have learned to do it.

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**Post date:** [July 18, 2024, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-mandela-effect-is-plaguing-me-again/984338/46 "2024-07-18T04:03:22Z")

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I find the Mandela effect interesting, because it shows us how our memory works, especially how our memory tends to merge similar events.

And also how a certain subset of people would rather think that they traveled to a different universe than acknowledge that their memory isn’t 100% perfect

@Smid has a good example: a movie and a tv show of similar genres (comedy plus violence) seen at about the same time.

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**Post date:** [July 18, 2024, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-mandela-effect-is-plaguing-me-again/984338/47 "2024-07-18T04:50:43Z")

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Another example is how people now remembering Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin being the first men to land on the moon instead of McIntyre, Cummings, and of course Harriman.

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**Post date:** [July 18, 2024, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-mandela-effect-is-plaguing-me-again/984338/48 "2024-07-18T06:23:55Z")

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That’s probably because those names were used in an old science fiction story about how the first moon landing was done as part of a huge government project. I think it was written by Heinlein.

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No, it was the Armstrong thing I read in a Heinlein story.

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**Post date:** [July 18, 2024, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-mandela-effect-is-plaguing-me-again/984338/50 "2024-07-18T17:07:23Z")

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> [@EnolaStraight](#):
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> Does anybody remember in Star Trek:The Voyage Home…when Kirk and the gang were breaking Chekov out of the hospital, and some doctor tries to call security, Kirk applies the “Famous Spock Nerve Pinch” and knocks him out…and stares at his hand like he couldn’t believe it actually worked.

Maybe…  
Spaceballs. Lonestar grabs a bad guy by the neck, the bad asks what he’s doing and Lonestar says “vulcan neck pinch?” “Nah, you gotta do it higher up on the neck” nd helps Lonestar apply it correctly. The guy passes out and I THINK Lonestar then looks at his hand like he can’t believed it worked.

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**Post date:** [July 19, 2024, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-mandela-effect-is-plaguing-me-again/984338/51 "2024-07-19T20:46:47Z")

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Found it! The Shatner nerve pinch was in an episode of T. J. Hooker.

Shoot - tried to imbed the video clip but had trouble. Well, it’s Season 5, the one with the lady who got green paint all over her…

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> [@digs](#):
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> Shoot - tried to imbed the video clip but had trouble.

You can always assign the link to a [particular](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-mandela-effect-is-plaguing-me-again/984338/51) word or phrase.

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Just today I was telling my husband about the Jeanie cartoon where her sidekick, Babu, would make magic by chanting ‘Abu Dhabi!’. He did not remember. He didn’t remember cartoon Jeanie or Babu, so I googled a picture-- and discovered he said ‘Yapple Dapple!’. I would have fought to the death defending ‘Abu Dhabi!’.

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But we never had Jeanie or Babu here… which timeline did you Google?

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Ooh, what if a person shifted universes, but their phone stayed connected to their previous one?

(Anyone need a story idea? It’s yours.)

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The Mandela Effect of the Mandela Effect. I always thought he supposedly died sometime after he retired (but before actually dying).

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> [@digs](#):
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> But we never had Jeanie or Babu here… which timeline did you Google?
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> Ooh, what if a person shifted universes, but their phone stayed connected to their previous one?
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> (Anyone need a story idea? It’s yours.)

I remember it clearly. It was a Hanna Barbara cartoon. Babu was voiced by Joe Besser in his distinctive style.

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**Post date:** [October 5, 2024, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-mandela-effect-is-plaguing-me-again/984338/57 "2024-10-05T23:58:07Z")

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I can’t remember where, but I read a story once that contained the Chevalier Effect(based on the song “I Remember It Well”).  
Basically, the details WERE actually different for those who experienced them.

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> [@EnolaStraight](#):
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> Does anybody remember in Star Trek:The Voyage Home…when Kirk and the gang were breaking Chekov out of the hospital, and some doctor tries to call security, Kirk applies the “Famous Spock Nerve Pinch” and knocks him out…and stares at his hand like he couldn’t believe it actually worked.

I remember it too! So I looked it up. It only happens in the [novelization](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Vulcan_neck_pinch#:~:text=In%20the%20novelization%20of%20Star,who%20tries%20to%20prevent%20Dr.).

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**Post date:** [October 6, 2024, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-mandela-effect-is-plaguing-me-again/984338/59 "2024-10-06T17:23:21Z")

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> [@Pavelb1](#):
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> Kids in the Hall famously have very few women featured.

Thirty Helens disagree!

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