# The Mandela Effect is plaguing me again

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** cartoons-animation\
**Created:** [May 20, 2023, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-mandela-effect-is-plaguing-me-again/984338 "2023-05-20T18:09:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2025, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-mandela-effect-is-plaguing-me-again/984338/121 "2025-03-26T18:58:32Z")

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How many of us thought the staircases in the Harry Potter books rotate, sometimes even when you are on them.

Like Magneto’s helmet, that was a movie thing. In fact, _only_ a movie thing.

The staircases in Hogwarts take you to different locations on different days, but magically. It is not very deeply explored in the books how they do that. Even Dumbledore comments that he does not have Hogwarts fully mapped out and there are secrets he does not know(this turns out to be true when they find a room Dumbledore didn’t know about).

Hogwarts Legacy, a video game with a fully explorable Hogwarts, does not have moving staircases because they licensed the books, not the movie.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2025, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-mandela-effect-is-plaguing-me-again/984338/122 "2025-03-26T19:03:44Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> Like Magneto’s helmet, that was a movie thing. In fact, _only_ a movie thing.

I just found a drawing of magneto from his first appearance in the X men comic, and he has a helmet???

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2025, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-mandela-effect-is-plaguing-me-again/984338/123 "2025-03-26T19:09:15Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> I just found a drawing of magneto from his first appearance in the X men comic, and he has a helmet???

I mean the purpose/use of his helmet. In the movie, it blocks Charles mind-control and reading. In the comics, I think he just wears it because…supervillain.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2025, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-mandela-effect-is-plaguing-me-again/984338/124 "2025-03-26T19:12:04Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> I mean the purpose/use of his helmet. In the movie, it blocks Charles mind-control and reading. In the comics, I think he just wears it because…supervillain.

Oh, okay.

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2025, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-mandela-effect-is-plaguing-me-again/984338/125 "2025-03-26T23:22:06Z")

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> [@TriPolar](#):
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> Who was the first man to land on the moon in your universe?

Neil A Armstrong, from Coshockton, OH.

Right?

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2025, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-mandela-effect-is-plaguing-me-again/984338/126 "2025-03-26T23:25:27Z")

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> [@Kent\_Clark](#):
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> In your defense only part of I-35 is a toll road. But in defense of the Mandela Effect, I-35 between the Oklahoma State Line and Emporia has always been a toll road

I actually keep small three ring binders from my trips, and while they don’t have the actual route taken, they have the hotels, and I just use GPS to navigate. And I can look at my pictures from the previous trips. So I should be able to recreate the routes. When I get back, I will see if you are right, or if I switched universes. If so, probably happened in Texas.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2025, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-mandela-effect-is-plaguing-me-again/984338/127 "2025-03-26T23:34:46Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> The staircases in Hogwarts take you to different locations on different days, but magically. It is not very deeply explored in the books how they do that.

I mean, to be fair, the staircases moving is a fairly simple and obvious interpretation of how they take you to different locations on different days. It could be through magical spacetime warps… or they could just move.

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**Author:** ![Smid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/838e76/32.png) [@Smid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smid)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2025, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-mandela-effect-is-plaguing-me-again/984338/128 "2025-03-26T23:36:23Z")

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> [@TriPolar](#):
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> Who was the first man to land on the moon in your universe?

(given the usual misty-eyed merging of some related memories)…

Sam Rockwell.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2025, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-mandela-effect-is-plaguing-me-again/984338/129 "2025-03-26T23:36:54Z")

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Wrong-It was Delos David “D. D.” Harriman. I’m afraid you’re in the wrong universe.

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2025, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-mandela-effect-is-plaguing-me-again/984338/130 "2025-03-26T23:54:10Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> > [@TriPolar](#):
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> > Who was the first man to land on the moon in your universe?
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> Neil A Armstrong, from Coshockton, OH.
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> Right?

> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Wrong-It was Delos David “D. D.” Harriman. I’m afraid you’re in the wrong universe.

Yeah, you’re in the wrong place. It happens. No need to worry much, most stuff is the same.

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2025, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-mandela-effect-is-plaguing-me-again/984338/131 "2025-03-27T00:03:11Z")

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> [@TriPolar](#):
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> No need to worry much, most stuff is the same.

Good. That means Harris is president here, too.

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2025, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-mandela-effect-is-plaguing-me-again/984338/132 "2025-03-27T00:54:34Z")

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Have I missed it? Every discussion of the Mandela Effect seems to gloss over a crucial issue:

> Okay, say that I’ve identified that I’m from Mandela Delta (my favorite timeline, by the way), and stuck in Mandela Prime (aka The Berenstain Dimension)…
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> Now, _HOW DO I GET BACK HOME?_

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**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2025, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-mandela-effect-is-plaguing-me-again/984338/133 "2025-03-27T01:11:57Z")

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Hey, he paid for the rocket but he wasn’t on its first trip

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2025, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-mandela-effect-is-plaguing-me-again/984338/134 "2025-03-27T01:20:35Z")

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Right, it was the guy who dedicated himself to the mission like it was a matter of religious belief: Apollo Creed.

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**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2025, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-mandela-effect-is-plaguing-me-again/984338/135 "2025-03-28T23:18:19Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> I’m afraid you’re in the wrong universe.

Does that mean we went down the wrong trouser of time?

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**Author:** ![Asuka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@Asuka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asuka)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2025, 7:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-mandela-effect-is-plaguing-me-again/984338/136 "2025-03-29T07:18:09Z")

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Me and my father both swear when we first watched The Godfather Part 2 on VHS the famous scene where an important character dies in a fishing accident, he’s blown up in his boat with a bomb in his tackle box.

It wasn’t until we got the DVD suddenly it was simply him being shot by someone else on the boat.

But we BOTH remembered seeing the VHS and the boat exploding.

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**Author:** ![Smid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/838e76/32.png) [@Smid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smid)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2025, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-mandela-effect-is-plaguing-me-again/984338/137 "2025-03-29T12:28:13Z")

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That sounds like the assassination of Lord Mountbatten in 1979 by the IRA.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2025, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-mandela-effect-is-plaguing-me-again/984338/138 "2025-03-29T15:10:23Z")

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> [@Asuka](#):
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> But we BOTH remembered seeing the VHS and the boat exploding.

I saw it on VHS in 1999 and he was shot. I wonder how small your TV was?

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2025, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-mandela-effect-is-plaguing-me-again/984338/139 "2025-03-29T19:27:55Z")

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> [@digs](#):
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> But we never had Jeanie or Babu here… which timeline did you Google?
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> .
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> Ooh, what if a person shifted universes, but their phone stayed connected to their previous one?
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> (Anyone need a story idea? It’s yours.)

I’m no kind of writer, but if some Doper who is manages to run with this idea, and it were to be published in _Analog_ or whatever sci-fi magazine is still around, it would be cool to have the title be _The Mandela Effect_. Even more cool would be if an arrangement were made with the editor to have that title on the first page, with subsequent pages bearing the title as _The Biko Effect_.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2025, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-mandela-effect-is-plaguing-me-again/984338/140 "2025-03-29T19:34:57Z")

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> [@digs](#):
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> Wellll, just to complicate things, I found a number of vintage “Are those braces or not?” clips.
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> BUT here’s the movie (shown on Canadian TV), off someone’s VHS tape, and she has braces:
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> [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EjWdfYV90Q](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EjWdfYV90Q)

Would have been hilarious had the director anticipated audience expectations and had the wardrobe people put suspenders on her. 😃

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