# The Marlins actually won **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [October 26, 2003, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-marlins-actually-won/209602 "2003-10-26T02:47:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Quack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e99b99/32.png) [@Quack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quack)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2003, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-marlins-actually-won/209602/1 "2003-10-26T02:47:29Z")
Wow. Josh Beckett comes out on 3-days rest and pitches a 5-hit complete-game shutout. Who would’ve predicted a loss by the evil empire? How about Beckett? How about Pudge? How about the Yankees rolling over to the lowly fish? ---
**Author:** ![jesleigh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/58f4c7/32.png) [@jesleigh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jesleigh)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2003, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-marlins-actually-won/209602/2 "2003-10-26T02:52:32Z")
I can only say one thing: 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Anamorphic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/anamorphic/32/3057_2.png) [@Anamorphic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anamorphic)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2003, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-marlins-actually-won/209602/3 "2003-10-26T02:59:09Z")
And could the Yankees have looked any more lackluster tonight? Makes me very happy that they went out looking like that. Beckett pitched a hell of a game. I’ll echo **jesleigh** ’s 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Invisible\_Chimp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f05b48/32.png) [@Invisible\_Chimp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Invisible_Chimp)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2003, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-marlins-actually-won/209602/4 "2003-10-26T03:06:21Z")
The Cubs and BoSox haven’t won since before Jack McKeon was born and yet the Marlins have won the Series twice in 11 years. Never sad to see those damn Yankees lose and Beckett really stepped up tonight. Awesome. ---
**Author:** ![insomnia4AM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/4bbf92/32.png) [@insomnia4AM](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/insomnia4AM)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2003, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-marlins-actually-won/209602/5 "2003-10-26T03:08:59Z")
😃 😃 😃 This will shut my roommate up now. All week she has been dancing about, talking about how she was going to have a party when the Yankees win. ---
**Author:** ![cmkeller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmkeller/32/118_2.png) [@cmkeller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmkeller)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2003, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-marlins-actually-won/209602/6 "2003-10-26T03:55:49Z")
As a Royals fan, I bid a hearty congratulations to the guy who, in his first managerial stint that began thirty years ago, helped bring a lowly expansion team its first glimmerings of credibility. Jack, great job on those Marlins. Enjoy your winter. ---
**Author:** ![UncleBill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/d26b3c/32.png) [@UncleBill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBill)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2003, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-marlins-actually-won/209602/7 "2003-10-26T03:58:39Z")
The Marlins have had two winning seasons since their creation. Two damned good winning seasons. ---
**Author:** ![Blonde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3be4f8/32.png) [@Blonde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blonde)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2003, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-marlins-actually-won/209602/8 "2003-10-26T04:22:54Z")
Whoohoo! I love it when the underdog wins. Now let’s get on with basketball season, for the love of God. The Mavs first game is in 3 days! And how 'bout them Cowboys. Ooops, sorry - awesome series, Marlins! ---
**Author:** ![Flymaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c4cdca/32.png) [@Flymaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flymaster)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2003, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-marlins-actually-won/209602/9 "2003-10-26T04:41:32Z")
As a Red Sox fan and Yankee hater, let me say that the Marlins, and Jack McKeon, represent everything that is wrong with baseball. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Universe\_Lashes\_Out](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8797f3/32.png) [@The\_Universe\_Lashes\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Universe_Lashes_Out)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2003, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-marlins-actually-won/209602/10 "2003-10-26T05:17:53Z")
Flymaster, do explain. Wouldn’t it be the Yankees that represent everything wrong with baseball? ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2003, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-marlins-actually-won/209602/11 "2003-10-26T05:34:33Z")
Funny, the people at the beginning of the season who said only a quarter of the league has any chance of winning it and 20 teams have no chance blah blah blah aren’t talking much anymore. How 'bout those Fish! Sure, nobody deserves it less than Jeffrey Loria, but nobody deserves it more than Jack McKeon. Jack McKeon is everything that is RIGHT about baseball. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2003, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-marlins-actually-won/209602/12 "2003-10-26T06:07:48Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by HowieReynolds \* > \*\*Flymaster, do explain. Wouldn’t it be the Yankees that represent everything wrong with baseball? \*\* I think he’s saying that even thought he hates the Yankees, he hates that a franchise that isn’t even old enough to drive has won two World Championships, _but_ more importantly that for the second year in a row a damn wild card team has won it all. Crikey. And if you want to go even further, my late grandfather always thought it was an abomination to the game that Florida even had a Major League team. He (a late-life Florida resident) thought the only Major League baseball that should be played in Florida should be spring training. There are probably more things behind **Howie** ’s mini-rant, but that’s my take on it. At least _this_ Marlins team wasn’t purchased greasy-spoon-cafeteria-style. Frankly, though, I was hoping monkeys were going to fly out of my butt and cause both teams to lose. Happy ---
**Author:** ![Flymaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c4cdca/32.png) [@Flymaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flymaster)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2003, 6:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-marlins-actually-won/209602/13 "2003-10-26T06:36:56Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by HowieReynolds \* > \*\*Flymaster, do explain. Wouldn’t it be the Yankees that represent everything wrong with baseball? \*\* First off, yes, normally they would. But they didn’t just win the World Series. Believe me, I hate the Yankees as much as anyone, but at least they have history. The Marlins problems start off with their owner: One Mr. Jeffrey Loria. I don’t think I have to even go into the way that he has screwed over the city of Montreal for the almighty dollar, stealing the entire Expos front office in the process, and leaving behind a team in total financial ruin. They extend to the fans. The fans who have stayed away in droves, only to hop onto a teal and black bandwagon as it went streaking by in the Miami heat. This is a team that drew 813,000 fans last year. They drew about 180,000 in their THREE world series games. THREE. The city does not deserve a team, let alone a World championship. At least the Yankees, while having quite a sizable bandwagon, have a bandwagon that keeps people onboard for years at a time. And then there is Jack McKeon. Jack ''A 16-run lead, is their pitching that bad? I mean, come on. Don’t rub it in. They have to examine their own conscience. " McKeon. When you have a team that is capable of winning the world series, Jack, teams are going to keep scoring runs to be sure you don’t make a comeback. Perhaps you’ll recall that after your little bitchfest (which was unwarranted, btw. There was only one play that was even close to rubbing it in. Your guys just sucked that night), you came back from a 7 run defecit in the top of the 8th inning, all because Grady bleeping Little decided that he shouldn’t rub it in. Well, Jack, if you don’t want teams “rubbing it in”, you should give up in the 8th inning. But no, you’re a whining little wuss who can’t take losing, despite your hundreds of thousands of dollar paycheck, and your players’ millions. Be a man, Jack, and admit it when you suck. Your team sucked that night, and they got beat. The next night, they didn’t suck so bad, but if you hadn’t whined about “rubbing it in” and the “unwritten rules”, you still would have lost. Grr. The Marlins make me mad. ---
**Author:** ![BobT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e8cbc/32.png) [@BobT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobT)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2003, 6:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-marlins-actually-won/209602/14 "2003-10-26T06:57:32Z")
It’s good that the Marlins make somebody mad! ---
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2003, 8:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-marlins-actually-won/209602/15 "2003-10-26T08:05:34Z")
> [@](#): > > The fans who have stayed away in droves, only to hop onto a teal and black bandwagon as it went streaking by in the Miami heat. This is a team that drew 813,000 fans last year. They drew about 180,000 in their THREE world series games. THREE. Well, to be fair, if the Red Sox (the team you say you are a fan of) sold EVERY one of its stars and most of its starting lineup and rotation and put on basically a glorified AAA team out there would you go see games? This was the first year since the fire sale that the Marlins actually brought in players and tried to go for it. ---
**Author:** ![Ellis\_Aponte\_Jr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@Ellis\_Aponte\_Jr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellis_Aponte_Jr)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2003, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-marlins-actually-won/209602/16 "2003-10-26T14:12:18Z")
Marlins’ attendance is low because there is a plenitude of other appealing outdoor activity choices in South Florida. They do have nice beaches, y’know. ---
**Author:** ![drm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a88e57/32.png) [@drm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drm)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2003, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-marlins-actually-won/209602/17 "2003-10-26T17:39:30Z")
I really don’t like the Marlins, I’m not sure why…maybe it’s the colours of their jerseys, who knows. I am, however, a huge Pudge fan so I’m really glad he won one even if he had to take the Marlins win one. I like the Yankees even less than the Marlins so their losing is another benefit I guess. ---
**Author:** ![drm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a88e57/32.png) [@drm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drm)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2003, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-marlins-actually-won/209602/18 "2003-10-26T17:41:30Z")
crud, switch **Marlins win one** to **Marlins with him**