# The Marvelous Ms. Marvel **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** tv-shows-scripted, disney-hulu\ **Created:** [March 15, 2022, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-marvelous-ms-marvel/961116 "2022-03-15T15:05:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2022, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-marvelous-ms-marvel/961116/21 "2022-06-08T21:45:23Z")
My question is: what is her adoration of Captain Marvel based on in this universe? In the comics Cap’s been around for a while and is a veteran hero and Avenger. In the MCU movies she had one movie set in in the 80’s (I think?) and showed up for the two Endgame movies. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2022, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-marvelous-ms-marvel/961116/22 "2022-06-08T21:53:39Z")
Being one of the heroes responsible for beating Thanos isn’t enough of a reason? ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2022, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-marvelous-ms-marvel/961116/23 "2022-06-08T22:13:41Z")
That’s true. I more meant like there’s plenty of footage of Iron Man, but Carol Danvers only has second-hand accounts of her heroism. I guess everyone has a favorite. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2022, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-marvelous-ms-marvel/961116/24 "2022-06-08T22:17:27Z")
Yeah, but I’m guessing Kamala wants a specifically female role model, and there’s not a lot of high profile choices there. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2022, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-marvelous-ms-marvel/961116/25 "2022-06-08T22:24:11Z")
Agreed, sadly. ---
**Author:** ![nightshadea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7ba0ec/32.png) [@nightshadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nightshadea)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2022, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-marvelous-ms-marvel/961116/26 "2022-06-08T22:34:44Z")
well in the official avengers video game she’s more of an avengers fangirl who ends up being ms marvel because she has the same powers and banner and stark just start calling her that although she did have a poster or two of the original in her clubhouse/hideout ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2022, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-marvelous-ms-marvel/961116/27 "2022-06-09T00:49:04Z")
Remember regular people do have somewhat of an idea of what everyone did, there was a couple people in I believe Wandavision talking about how she almost defeated Thanos by herself, and I think someone else brought up that Captain Marvel was the only one who could. There was a memorial for Black Widow at Avengercon, and almost everything she did was behind the scenes, including her death. Apparently the only thing that isn’t well known is the name of the guy who’s entire vocabulary is stating his name. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2022, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-marvelous-ms-marvel/961116/28 "2022-06-09T00:54:36Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > My question is: what is her adoration of Captain Marvel based on in this universe? In the comics Cap’s been around for a while and is a veteran hero and Avenger. In the MCU movies she had one movie set in in the 80’s (I think?) and showed up for the two Endgame movies. There are perhaps many things a character has done that hasn’t happened to show up in a movie. I’m sure they can come up with stuff. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2022, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-marvelous-ms-marvel/961116/29 "2022-06-09T03:26:38Z")
I’m a solid ‘meh’ on this one - StarGirl did it better (so far) - and it took so long to get thru the first episode. That being said - did we get a She-Hulk cameo - looked like one to me. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2022, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-marvelous-ms-marvel/961116/30 "2022-06-09T03:36:59Z")
I really like season 1 of Stargirl. How has it been lately? ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2022, 6:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-marvelous-ms-marvel/961116/31 "2022-06-09T06:05:52Z")
> [@simster](#): > > That being said - did we get a She-Hulk cameo - looked like one to me. Did we? I didn’t catch it. Where was it? ---
**Author:** ![Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/half_man_half_wit/32/21766_2.png) [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Half_Man_Half_Wit)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2022, 9:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-marvelous-ms-marvel/961116/32 "2022-06-09T09:28:01Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > Did we? I didn’t catch it. Where was it? The only thing I saw was a green-skinned woman at AvengerCon, but I took it for a Gamora cosplay. I wasn’t particularly overwhelmed by the first episode. It seemed kinda formulaic to me—overbearing parents, unpopular at school, nerdy obsessiveness, lives in her fantasy-world, then becomes ‘special’. Seems like a YA checklist. But of course, it’s where they’ll take it from here… ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2022, 10:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-marvelous-ms-marvel/961116/33 "2022-06-09T10:59:21Z")
I thought Iman nailed the awkwardness of being a 16 year old (I was never a teenage girl, so I can’t speak to that aspect), and the visual style was different enough to keep me interested in it. I didn’t read Ms Marvel comics, but the girl playing Kamala was endearingly charismatic. She could really shine in this role. ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2022, 11:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-marvelous-ms-marvel/961116/34 "2022-06-09T11:01:04Z")
Never thought I would hear [Coco Co ri na](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2egK7whteUA) in a Marvel production. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2022, 11:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-marvelous-ms-marvel/961116/35 "2022-06-09T11:06:06Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > She could really shine in this role. Very much agree. Wildly charismatic lead performance with the potential to carry the show past some rough spots. As far as the show itself, this first episode is a little messy for me: overkinetically produced, and with a split personality between a pretty good struggling-teen-dramedy side and a by-the-numbers superhero origin side. We’ll see how it develops, and if it calms down once it has a story to tell. But Iman Vellani is an amazing casting coup. The whole show is on her shoulders and she’s terrific. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2022, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-marvelous-ms-marvel/961116/36 "2022-06-09T12:58:42Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > Did we? I didn’t catch it. Where was it? As they are moving thru AvengerCon - there was a GreenSkinned woman that did not look like a typical ‘cosplay’ - looked more ‘real’. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2022, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-marvelous-ms-marvel/961116/37 "2022-06-09T13:06:12Z")
> [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](#): > > It seemed kinda formulaic to me—overbearing parents, unpopular at school, nerdy obsessiveness, lives in her fantasy-world, then becomes ‘special’. Which means that it was a very accurate adaptation of the comic. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2022, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-marvelous-ms-marvel/961116/38 "2022-06-09T13:07:36Z")
If it looked real, it can’t be She-Hulk. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2022, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-marvelous-ms-marvel/961116/39 "2022-06-09T13:15:57Z")
What I mean by ‘real’ is that it did not look like a typical cosplay costume or makeup. ---
**Author:** ![Retzbu\_Tox](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/retzbu_tox/32/11829_2.png) [@Retzbu\_Tox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Retzbu_Tox)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2022, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-marvelous-ms-marvel/961116/40 "2022-06-09T13:20:04Z")
I vote Gamora cosplay. The hair color and line on the cheekbone are more Gamora than She-Hulk. [![](https://i.imgur.com/baeyJV3.jpg) ](https://i.imgur.com/baeyJV3.jpg) [![](https://media.allure.com/photos/5ccdcc5d72bf568a32cce6dd/1:1/w_551,h_551,c_limit/gamora.jpg) ](https://media.allure.com/photos/5ccdcc5d72bf568a32cce6dd/1:1/w_551,h_551,c_limit/gamora.jpg) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-marvelous-ms-marvel/961116.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-marvelous-ms-marvel/961116.md?page=3)