# The Marvelous Ms. Marvel

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-marvelous-ms-marvel/961116>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** tv-shows-scripted, disney-hulu\
**Created:** [March 15, 2022, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-marvelous-ms-marvel/961116 "2022-03-15T15:05:21Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Pavelb1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@Pavelb1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pavelb1)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2022, 7:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-marvelous-ms-marvel/961116/81 "2022-06-15T07:20:06Z")

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2022, 11:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-marvelous-ms-marvel/961116/82 "2022-06-15T11:27:30Z")

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RE: Episode 2 -

Is Zoe emancipated? Why else would a teenage girl, in this age of Sokovia Accords and superheroes being fairly common, sit and talk to state/federal agents without a parent or attorney present?

I suppose I can credit some of it to naivety, but it seems like everyone would be a little more conscious about going to the police for an interview/interrogation without having representation.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2022, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-marvelous-ms-marvel/961116/83 "2022-06-15T12:52:13Z")

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“It’s just a friendly chat. Your lawyer will be along in just a minute.”

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2022, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-marvelous-ms-marvel/961116/84 "2022-06-15T15:49:13Z")

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> [@Superdude](#):
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> Is Zoe emancipated? Why else would a teenage girl, in this age of Sokovia Accords and superheroes being fairly common, sit and talk to state/federal agents without a parent or attorney present?

First thing she said when the cops showed up to her party was “my parents are going to kill me”. Which means they were probably out of town and she was throwing the party in their absence.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2022, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-marvelous-ms-marvel/961116/85 "2022-06-15T19:58:13Z")

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The power of embiggening replaced by the power of parkour.

There was some other superhero fairly recently (comics or TV) who had tge “creating steps in mid-air” power, but I can’t remember where I saw it. Ringing any bells for anyone?

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2022, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-marvelous-ms-marvel/961116/86 "2022-06-15T20:02:11Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> There was some other superhero fairly recently (comics or TV) who had tge “creating steps in mid-air” power, but I can’t remember where I saw it. Ringing any bells for anyone?

Dr Strange does it for Star Lord in Infinity war.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2022, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-marvelous-ms-marvel/961116/87 "2022-06-15T20:08:27Z")

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The one I was thinking about couldn’t be MCU, I actually haven’t seen most of those.

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**Author:** ![cmkeller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmkeller/32/118_2.png) [@cmkeller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmkeller)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2022, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-marvelous-ms-marvel/961116/88 "2022-06-15T20:47:42Z")

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Wasn’t crazy about the first episode, but I liked the second better. I think the stylistic “teen” touches (e.g., emojis and text floating around) bugged me somewhat, but I’m more prepared for that stuff now. I like the added subplot of her cousin (?) running for the Mosque board.

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**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2022, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-marvelous-ms-marvel/961116/89 "2022-06-15T20:52:17Z")

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I’m liking this show a lot, overall. I really like that she’s not just a clumsy teenager who’s a superhero, she’s a clumsy teenager who’s a clumsy superhero, and only barely saved that kid.

I think they’re doing a good job of showing Muslim culture without being either disrespectful or kid-gloves about it.

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2022, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-marvelous-ms-marvel/961116/90 "2022-06-15T20:54:08Z")

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Wow, they actually referenced the Eternals. I thought they were all just going to pretend that whole movie never happened.

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**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2022, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-marvelous-ms-marvel/961116/91 "2022-06-15T23:14:57Z")

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they did? where?

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2022, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-marvelous-ms-marvel/961116/92 "2022-06-15T23:18:41Z")

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When she was talking about favorite bollywood movies with hot guy.

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**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2022, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-marvelous-ms-marvel/961116/93 "2022-06-15T23:20:24Z")

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That went RIGHT over my head but… I appreciate it in retrospect.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2022, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-marvelous-ms-marvel/961116/94 "2022-06-15T23:21:42Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> There was some other superhero fairly recently (comics or TV) who had tge “creating steps in mid-air” power, but I can’t remember where I saw it. Ringing any bells for anyone?

So (sorry for the tangent) I’m remembering more of what I was thinking of. Guy is a retired, very successful cat burglar. But he is pulled out of retirement to do One Last Job. Turns out that his big secret is that he had some alien tech—a full suit (or maybe just boots) that could be “locked” into an inertial position allowing him to walk across the air from one building to the next. Possibly an issue of _Deadpool_? Or a TV show.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2022, 7:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-marvelous-ms-marvel/961116/95 "2022-06-16T07:56:51Z")

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Yeah. They referenced [Kumail Nanjiani](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm3529685/) and his role as Kingo. I didn’t pick up on it at first, either.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2022, 10:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-marvelous-ms-marvel/961116/96 "2022-06-16T10:57:52Z")

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I’d love it if they snuck in a Defenders reference or cameo. Just have her walk past Luke Cage or something. I know he’s busy on Evil, but c’mon!

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**Author:** ![MrAtoz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@MrAtoz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrAtoz)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2022, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-marvelous-ms-marvel/961116/97 "2022-06-16T14:52:30Z")

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They missed a chance to mention that he’s on _Obi-Wan Kenobi_ right now. Unless they did, and I missed it.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2022, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-marvelous-ms-marvel/961116/98 "2022-06-16T15:34:00Z")

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If they did, I didn’t catch it, either. And none of the YouTube “analysts” that I watched said anything about it.

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**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2022, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-marvelous-ms-marvel/961116/99 "2022-06-16T20:05:37Z")

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> [@Horatius](#):
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> I generally like them too, but in the era of streaming services, they can be annoying. If you’re watching several episodes in a row, most of my services will start the new episode automatically after about 10-15 seconds, which means you miss the extra scene.

I think the Amazon Prime animated series “Invincible” was guilty of this. I only found out they had post-credits scenes when I was reading about it somewhere online.

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**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2022, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-marvelous-ms-marvel/961116/100 "2022-06-16T21:27:04Z")

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> [@Superdude](#):
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> Yeah. They referenced [Kumail Nanjiani](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm3529685/) and his role as Kingo. I didn’t pick up on it at first, either.

I loved that Kamala swooned over Kingo, but couldn’t understand what her mother saw in Kingo, Sr.

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