# The McCain Campaign Has Officially Godwinized the Election **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 26, 2008, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-mccain-campaign-has-officially-godwinized-the-election/469608 "2008-10-26T04:16:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2008, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-mccain-campaign-has-officially-godwinized-the-election/469608/61 "2008-10-27T03:01:10Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > **Rand Rover** wins this one. The guy claimed it was authorized and then declined to say who did the authorizing. Awwww you’re sooooo cute, you actually think you can skip in and declare a winner. In case you didn’t notice, most of us knew the guy was not willing to say who authorized it and most of us are inclined to believe he really is a true believer willing to take one for the team rather than expose his dear leader to criticism… Keep trying though, it is cute. ---
**Author:** ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2008, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-mccain-campaign-has-officially-godwinized-the-election/469608/62 "2008-10-27T04:52:23Z")
Now I see why they are desperate to scare the jewish voters. > [@](#): > > A new poll released by the Gallup organization on Thursday shows Jewish voters favor Barack Obama over John McCain by more than 3 to 1, with 74% saying they will vote for Obama over 22% for McCain. [http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1031176.html](http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1031176.html) ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2008, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-mccain-campaign-has-officially-godwinized-the-election/469608/63 "2008-10-27T13:50:29Z")
> [@askeptic](#): > > In case you didn’t notice, most of us knew the guy was not willing to say who authorized it and most of us are inclined to believe he really is a true believer willing to take one for the team rather than expose his dear leader to criticism… If he was a “true believer taking one for the team”, he would have said it wasn’t authorized, period. Think about it. Look, I think **Rand Rover** is usually wrong about everything, but in this case, he’s correct. I don’t know if being “right” about this has any value; it doesn’t make any difference to me if the campaign authorized it or not. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2008, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-mccain-campaign-has-officially-godwinized-the-election/469608/64 "2008-10-27T13:53:38Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > I suppose you have some support for the bolded part above? The article you linked says: “‘The Republican Party of Pennsylvania did not authorize that e-mail,’ Michael Barley, communications director for the state party, told The Associated Press on Saturday evening.” :dubious: Yeah, yeah, they said the same thing about the [push-polling.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=486162) ---
**Author:** ![buttonjockey308](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bcef8e/32.png) [@buttonjockey308](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buttonjockey308)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2008, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-mccain-campaign-has-officially-godwinized-the-election/469608/65 "2008-10-27T14:33:07Z")
> [@Shayna](#): > > I just can’t wait for the next 9 days to pass and for this shit to be over. This. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2008, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-mccain-campaign-has-officially-godwinized-the-election/469608/66 "2008-10-27T14:58:09Z")
> [@Richard\_Parker](#): > > A similar one indeed. Does that mean, by internet rules, Obama wins? I think that conclusion is a misunderstanding of Godwin’s Law, which [states](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law): > [@Godwin](#): > > As a Usenet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one. Godwin doesn’t apply to winning or losing the argument at hand; it merely notes the asymptotic approach to certainty that Nazis or Hitler will be invoked as a debate continues. So this is merely evidence that Godwin was right. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2008, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-mccain-campaign-has-officially-godwinized-the-election/469608/67 "2008-10-27T15:10:47Z")
What are you some kind of Godwin’s Law Gestapo or something? > [@](#): > > Originally Posted by Shayna > I just can’t wait for the next 9 days to pass and for this shit to be over. I disagree. The Olympics, the World Cup, US Presidential Elections – there are only so many once-every-four-year entertainment packages to choose from; and this one is at a premium, I’d say. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@Captain\_Carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Carrot)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2008, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-mccain-campaign-has-officially-godwinized-the-election/469608/68 "2008-10-27T15:17:29Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > I think that conclusion is a misunderstanding of Godwin’s Law, which [states](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law): > > Godwin doesn’t apply to winning or losing the argument at hand; it merely notes the asymptotic approach to certainty that Nazis or Hitler will be invoked as a debate continues. > > So this is merely evidence that Godwin was right. 🙂 You’re forgetting the corollary, which states that whoever made the comparison loses. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-mccain-campaign-has-officially-godwinized-the-election/469608.md?page=3)