# The Men In Black are back, jack

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-men-in-black-are-back-jack/826426>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [December 20, 2018, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-men-in-black-are-back-jack/826426 "2018-12-20T16:10:49Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 1

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2018, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-men-in-black-are-back-jack/826426/1 "2018-12-20T16:10:49Z")

</div>

[_Men In Black International_](https://www.cbr.com/men-in-black-international-trailer-1/), that is…and it looks good to me. New faces, old faces, and new toys to play with.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2018, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-men-in-black-are-back-jack/826426/2 "2018-12-20T16:51:47Z")

</div>

I thought a big appeal of the earlier films was a result of Barry Sonnenfeld’s directing and I think someone else is directing this sequel. We’ll see if the new guy can do as well. (I doubt it, though. Sonnenfeld was also responsibly for the Addams Family movie and that also benefited from his involvement.)

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2018, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-men-in-black-are-back-jack/826426/3 "2018-12-20T17:17:55Z")

</div>

This movie is falling into the same trap that all modern movies are falling into. It’s what I call “Marvel-ing”. Every movie in that genre has to be Fun! Quippy! Fights! Explosions! More Fights! Action!

The original MiB trilogy had it’s action-y parts here and there, but it was by no means an action movie. The comedy was more than just one-liners, it was fish-out-of-water/situational kind of comedy.

I’m sure I’ll see the movie with my A-list, but I’ll spend the whole time saying “The other three did this better…”

Other than Liam Neeson…super stoked about him

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2018, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-men-in-black-are-back-jack/826426/4 "2018-12-20T17:24:43Z")

</div>

MiB was a great movie. The two sequels weren’t - they weren’t terrible, but they sure weren’t fabulous. So, really, this movie can be the second best of four movies without being a masterpeice.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2018, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-men-in-black-are-back-jack/826426/5 "2018-12-20T18:39:09Z")

</div>

Trailer looks good. I’ll see the movie if the reviews are decent.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2018, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-men-in-black-are-back-jack/826426/6 "2018-12-20T18:54:21Z")

</div>

I laughed at the end of the trailer, when Hemsworth throws a hammer at an alien. 🙂

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2018, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-men-in-black-are-back-jack/826426/7 "2018-12-20T18:59:22Z")

</div>

> [@kenobi\_65](#):
>
> I laughed at the end of the trailer, when Hemsworth throws a hammer at an alien. 🙂

Twas a Tiny Hammer indeed.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2018, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-men-in-black-are-back-jack/826426/8 "2018-12-20T19:04:20Z")

</div>

> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
>
> I thought a big appeal of the earlier films was a result of Barry Sonnenfeld’s directing and I think someone else is directing this sequel. We’ll see if the new guy can do as well. (I doubt it, though. Sonnenfeld was also responsibly for the Addams Family movie and that also benefited from his involvement.)

The choice of director (F. Gary Gray) provides a little hope, though. He’s shown he can do comedy (_Friday_), action (_The Italian Job_’s chase scenes), and human interest (_Straight Outta Compton_).

> [@Sir\_T-Cups](#):
>
> This movie is falling into the same trap that all modern movies are falling into. It’s what I call “Marvel-ing”. Every movie in that genre has to be Fun! Quippy! Fights! Explosions! More Fights! Action!

Maybe. Remember, the trailer is going to be heavy on action and quips. That two minutes might comprise the sum total of all action in the movie. You very well might be right, but the trailer isn’t a good way to judge that.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![nightshadea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7ba0ec/32.png) [@nightshadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nightshadea)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2018, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-men-in-black-are-back-jack/826426/9 "2018-12-20T19:08:10Z")

</div>

> [@Sir\_T-Cups](#):
>
> This movie is falling into the same trap that all modern movies are falling into. It’s what I call “Marvel-ing”. Every movie in that genre has to be Fun! Quippy! Fights! Explosions! More Fights! Action!
> 
> The original MiB trilogy had it’s action-y parts here and there, but it was by no means an action movie. The comedy was more than just one-liners, it was fish-out-of-water/situational kind of comedy.
> 
> I’m sure I’ll see the movie with my A-list, but I’ll spend the whole time saying “The other three did this better…”
> 
> Other than Liam Neeson…super stoked about him

wasn’t mib originally a marvel comic book?

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2018, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-men-in-black-are-back-jack/826426/10 "2018-12-20T19:32:55Z")

</div>

> [@nightshadea](#):
>
> wasn’t mib originally a marvel comic book?

It was originally a comic book, yes, though under indie publishers (first Aircel, then Malibu). The original MIB film was made after Marvel had bought Malibu, and that’s when Marvel started publishing MIB comics.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2018, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-men-in-black-are-back-jack/826426/11 "2018-12-20T19:45:29Z")

</div>

I’ll give it a try.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2018, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-men-in-black-are-back-jack/826426/12 "2018-12-20T20:00:02Z")

</div>

> [@nightshadea](#):
>
> wasn’t mib originally a marvel comic book?

Yes, but the movie wasn’t made in the way the MCU movies (and plenty of other contemporary movies) are and that’s what I’m rebelling against.

It’s really more of a coincidence that it happened to be a comic rather than it being causative.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2018, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-men-in-black-are-back-jack/826426/13 "2018-12-20T21:07:22Z")

</div>

The Thompson/Hemsworth chemistry really worked for me in\* Thor:Ragnarok\*, so I’m optimistic.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2018, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-men-in-black-are-back-jack/826426/14 "2018-12-21T02:06:05Z")

</div>

I’m there for Emma Thompson returning as Agent O.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19adc/32.png) [@Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2018, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-men-in-black-are-back-jack/826426/15 "2018-12-21T15:03:21Z")

</div>

> [@MrDibble](#):
>
> The Thompson/Hemsworth chemistry really worked for me in\* Thor:Ragnarok\*, so I’m optimistic.

I love when actor duos pop up in multiple movies, so I’m in.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![ITR\_champion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c67d28/32.png) [@ITR\_champion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ITR_champion)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2018, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-men-in-black-are-back-jack/826426/16 "2018-12-21T22:41:39Z")

</div>

> [@RickJay](#):
>
> MiB was a great movie.

I disagree. Based on my 20-year-old recollections, it had a small number of hilarious moments but it was mostly a drag. Prior to this thread, it had been many years since I even heard anybody mention it. This looks to me like another reboot of a mediocre property that there’s no widespread demand for, and next year we’re also getting do-overs of _Dumbo_, _Hellboy_, etc… Hey Hollywood: make something original already!

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![China\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@China\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/China_Guy)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2018, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-men-in-black-are-back-jack/826426/17 "2018-12-22T01:42:58Z")

</div>

This looks pretty fun. Not looking for art here.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2018, 6:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-men-in-black-are-back-jack/826426/18 "2018-12-22T06:25:28Z")

</div>

I’m not sure if I’m more disappointed or relieved that the proposed “21 Jump Street”/“Men In Black” sequel didn’t come to fruition.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2018, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-men-in-black-are-back-jack/826426/19 "2018-12-23T16:20:30Z")

</div>

> [@ITR\_champion](#):
>
> I disagree. Based on my 20-year-old recollections, it had a small number of hilarious moments but it was mostly a drag. Prior to this thread, it had been many years since I even heard anybody mention it. This looks to me like another reboot of a mediocre property that there’s no widespread demand for, and next year we’re also getting do-overs of _Dumbo_, _Hellboy_, etc… Hey Hollywood: make something original already!

I don’t have the numbers to back it up, but I hesitate to believe any franchise that spawns three movies and a theme park ride can be considered “mediocre”.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2018, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-men-in-black-are-back-jack/826426/20 "2018-12-23T16:36:56Z")

</div>

> [@Sir\_T-Cups](#):
>
> I don’t have the numbers to back it up, but I hesitate to believe any franchise that spawns three movies and a theme park ride can be considered “mediocre”.

While it might have been financially successful its not the franchise that made it so. Men in Black was Will Smith, Tommy Lee Jones, Rip Thorn and Vincent D’Onofrio. I very much enjoyed seeing those people playing those characters and would love more of that. They are falling into the same trap the Ghostbusters remake fell into, there was nothing special about the theme, the success was entirely on the cast.

[Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-men-in-black-are-back-jack/826426.md?page=2)
