Huh, interesting. From the video it looks like people went in. I must have mistaken bits of yards for people.
In an age of on-demand research material a reporter should be able to knock out a couple of paragraphs with accuracy. Repeating what someone says does not negate the process.
If you’re putting it in quote marks, you don’t change the wording.
Was there some tall ship regatta this weekend?
It’s a terrible tragedy, so awful, and wth went wrong?
@What_Exit so little info available from authorities should this have a breaking news tag?
If it’s wrong then report what actually happened which is what a reporter is paid to do. Anybody can put something in quotes. A reporter’s job is to present information accurately.
What if the quote was “flying monkeys attacked the crew and disabled the ship”. “Eye witness caught the video of it on their phone but flying monkeys stole the phone”.
It should have been reported as a ship lost power and was swept into the deck of a bridge by the current. The masts were damaged by the deck of the bridge and 2 people were killed.
I don’t think so. There won’t be anything but small updates over the next few weeks. So a wide ranging discussion on it is good I think.
It’s Fleet Week.
I have. We did have to climb into the rigging to unfurl the sails, but in the video I saw, the Cuauhtemoc’s sails were unfurled, but not set, when she hit the bridge. Setting the sails is done from the deck after they’re unfurled.
My first thought was that the injuries and fatalaties were from the crew doing the ceremonial manning the yards, but it’s also possible they were back on deck and got hurt by the masts, sails, and rigging coming down on top of them. One question I’d ask is how much warning did they have between when the engine quit and the ship hit the bridge.
Ironically, my ship was berthed at the South Street Seaport for a while. She then went to Lunenburg, Nova Scotia, to be converted to a sailing ship. Whether they have the facilities to repair the Cuauhtemoc I can’t say.
There are photos of men all over the yards before the strike, and clinging to the bent remains immediately afterwards.
There were women sailors pictured being medically transported after the incident, so not all the uniformed sailors were men.
I saw some, but not as many as if they were all manning the yards. I couldn’t see if anyone was up high enough to be on the part of the masts that broke and fell. There may have been enough warning to get everyone below the bridge height, but not all the way to the deck.
Were they manning all 9 yards?
To unfurl or take in the sails it is necessary for the sailors to go out onto
the yardarms. Here is a wikipedia article about the ship with a photo showing
the sailors out on the yards:
Close but no. Fleet week starts on the 21st. This ship was leaving yesterday before the start of fleet week.
There is a park on the Brooklyn side and a lot of people were taking video of the ship. There are a ton of different videos out there. There was one angle that showed at least two bodies falling from the top of the masts to the deck.
South Street Seaport is really close to the Brooklyn Bridge. Some years ago I spent a leisurely afternoon sitting with friends at one of the outdoor Seaport restaurants looking at the bridge.
I used to work not far from Spuyten Duyvil.
"Dutch in origin, Spuyten Duyvil can be translated in two ways, depending on the pronunciation. One translation is “Devil’s whirlpool,” and indeed, sections of the creek were sometimes turbulent during high tide. The second interpretation is “to spite the Devil.” This translation was popularized by Washington Irving’s story in which a Dutch trumpeter vowed to swim across the turbulent creek during the British attack on New Amsterdam “en spijt den Duyvil (in spite of the Devil).”
https://www.nycgovparks.org/parks/inwood-hill-park/highlights/8272
My nephew works in the ESPN studio at Pier 17. The ship was docked their all week. They moved it back there temporarily. He wasn’t at work when it happened so he didn’t see it.
In 50 years, when someone is doing a literature search to find the true source of that expression…
Generic pictures show them all wearing safety harnesses.
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That would have slowed them while trying to get down.
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But it would have saved life in the collision.
My immediate thought was that falling off the yards onto the deck or into the ocean was a common cause of death during the age of sail, so of course people were hurt and died in this collision. I see now that modern practice takes that into a account.
Except all the sails were furled at the time. There was no way they’d be deployed in enough time to do any good.
That has since been corrected in the linked article. But (at the time of writing) it still refers to the “sailboat”.