# The Michael Vick Return Pool

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-michael-vick-return-pool/503819>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [July 22, 2009, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-michael-vick-return-pool/503819 "2009-07-22T03:08:47Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-michael-vick-return-pool/503819/61 "2009-07-29T16:37:20Z")

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> [@Justin\_Bailey](#):
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> The backlash risk. Come on, Vick is not special enough to warrant getting a free pass from the media or animal lovers out there. They will picket. They will make the team look bad. They will organize boycotts. It would be a disaster all around.

I doubt that, honestly, since he’s donated a shit-ton of money to PETA and the Humane Society since 2007.

Still, he really _is_ that special. If he could just complete more than 60% of his passes- as Donovan McNabb finally did in year 6- he’d be undefendable. I’m not saying he ever will be that accurate, just that the reward for a coach who got him there would be huge.

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**Author:** ![packattack\_goTT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b782af/32.png) [@packattack\_goTT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/packattack_goTT)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2009, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-michael-vick-return-pool/503819/62 "2009-08-12T23:04:34Z")

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my prediction…haha  
1 week from now  
flipping burgers for McDonalds  
retires from that in 2020 and works for the pound putting dogs to sleep  
home sweeeet home…

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**Author:** ![packattack\_goTT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b782af/32.png) [@packattack\_goTT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/packattack_goTT)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2009, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-michael-vick-return-pool/503819/63 "2009-08-12T23:12:16Z")

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> [@zamboniracer](#):
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> The more I think about it, the more I agree with those who think there’s no way any NFL team will take the risk of trying out Vick at QB this season. I’d sure take a flyer on him as a kick returner, like Josh Cribbs of the Browns, though. I’m not sure Vick would be willing to take that role but I’d like to see him try it.

dude seriously? he’d get killed  
he had so many QB injuries. hows he going to take kick return hits???

WAKE UP HE’S NOT COMING BACK AND IF HE DOES IT’LL BE A “BRETT FAVRE-JETS” SITUATION. ONE YEAR THEN HES GONE. AND IN THAT ONE YEAR HE’LL PLAY TERRIBLE AND GET SHOWN UP BY EVERYOTHER STARTING QB!!! EVEN ONES LIKE JASON CAMPBELL AND JAMARCUS RUSSELL!!!

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2009, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-michael-vick-return-pool/503819/64 "2009-08-13T02:57:25Z")

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> [@packattack\_goTT](#):
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> WAKE UP HE’S NOT COMING BACK AND IF HE DOES IT’LL BE A “BRETT FAVRE-JETS” SITUATION. ONE YEAR THEN HES GONE. AND IN THAT ONE YEAR HE’LL PLAY TERRIBLE AND GET SHOWN UP BY EVERYOTHER STARTING QB!!! EVEN ONES LIKE JASON CAMPBELL AND JAMARCUS RUSSELL!!!

Welcome to The Straight Dope Message Boards. I think you’re going to fit in very well.

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**Author:** ![furt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/439d5e/32.png) [@furt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furt)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2009, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-michael-vick-return-pool/503819/65 "2009-08-13T03:18:33Z")

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> [@zamboniracer](#):
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> What evidence is there that Vick is lazy? A f_ **p, sure, in the sense that most felons are f** _s. I never heard that his work ethic was bad though.

The fact that his mechanics and ability to read a defense did not improve during his time in the league?

Even before the dogfighting crap, there were knocks on him for not taking film study and game prep seriously.

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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-michael-vick-return-pool/503819/66 "2009-08-14T00:42:57Z")

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> [@Hal\_Briston](#):
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> And my answer…Week 9, Philadelphia Eagles.

Right on track…

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**Author:** ![HoboStew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/f17d59/32.png) [@HoboStew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HoboStew)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-michael-vick-return-pool/503819/67 "2009-08-14T01:05:30Z")

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What on earth are the eagles going to do with him? Didn’t mcnabb just sign an extension?

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-michael-vick-return-pool/503819/68 "2009-08-14T01:06:22Z")

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McNabb’s joints are made of playdoh. He may get some time.

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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-michael-vick-return-pool/503819/69 "2009-08-14T01:17:32Z")

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> [@HoboStew](#):
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> Didn’t mcnabb just sign an extension?

Nope…he signed a new deal that gave him a few extra bucks, but no more time.

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**Author:** ![HoboStew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/f17d59/32.png) [@HoboStew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HoboStew)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-michael-vick-return-pool/503819/70 "2009-08-14T01:27:41Z")

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Right but vick only signed a 2 year deal. McNabb isn’t going away that soon, and he did play all 16 last year.

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**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-michael-vick-return-pool/503819/71 "2009-08-14T01:42:22Z")

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When McNabb signed the new contract the spin was that the Eagles were showing their confidence in him to make him happy. Uh-oh…

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-michael-vick-return-pool/503819/72 "2009-08-14T01:54:30Z")

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> [@Southern\_Yankee](#):
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> When McNabb signed the new contract the spin was that the Eagles were showing their confidence in him to make him happy. Uh-oh…

This storyline is mind bogglingly stupid. Jaws is being an idiot on MNF. Vick is a backup, pure and simple. There isn’t a team in the NFL that would even put Vick in a competition for the #1 job let alone give him a chance to take an established starters job. McNabb knows damned well that Vick has been out of football for a long time and when Vick get’s on the field, IN WEEK 5, that it’ll be as a 3rd string developmental QB at best.

McNabb won’t see this as any kind of slight. He’s not an idiot. When McNabb’s contract is up, if Vick worked himself back to where he once was, then there’ll be reason to talk. Now it’s pure media created fake drama.

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**Author:** ![furt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/439d5e/32.png) [@furt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furt)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-michael-vick-return-pool/503819/73 "2009-08-14T02:09:57Z")

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Well, fuck me.  
God, I hope #5 stays upright. Don’t make me root for that asshole.  
Sigh. Look for Vick in the wildcat.

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-michael-vick-return-pool/503819/74 "2009-08-14T04:11:46Z")

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> [@furt](#):
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> God, I hope #5 stays upright. Don’t make me root for that asshole.

Heh, can I get odds on this one?

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**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 11:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-michael-vick-return-pool/503819/75 "2009-08-14T11:45:46Z")

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> [@Omniscient](#):
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> This storyline is mind bogglingly stupid. Jaws is being an idiot on MNF. Vick is a backup, pure and simple. There isn’t a team in the NFL that would even put Vick in a competition for the #1 job let alone give him a chance to take an established starters job. McNabb knows damned well that Vick has been out of football for a long time and when Vick get’s on the field, IN WEEK 5, that it’ll be as a 3rd string developmental QB at best.
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> McNabb won’t see this as any kind of slight. He’s not an idiot. When McNabb’s contract is up, if Vick worked himself back to where he once was, then there’ll be reason to talk. Now it’s pure media created fake drama.

Vick’s contract includes a $5.2 million option for year 2. If the Eagles decide to exercise that option after this season, that’s an awful lot of money for a backup QB.

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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-michael-vick-return-pool/503819/76 "2009-08-14T20:42:57Z")

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> [@Rebo](#):
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> Just to guess, I’ll say week 7, The Eagles.

Damn you, **Rebo** – I just noticed that you snuck one in earlier than my Week 9 prediction. Barring practice field (or parking lot) injury, you’ve got this one all but wrapped up – no way are the Eagles going to voluntarily hold him out that long. Hmmm…maybe we can get a tie off of Week 8.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-michael-vick-return-pool/503819/77 "2009-08-14T20:59:05Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> Likewise, how much catching.😃

Is it time for the “tight end converting to wide receiver” joke again? 😛

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-michael-vick-return-pool/503819/78 "2009-08-14T23:07:28Z")

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> [@Omniscient](#):
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> McNabb won’t see this as any kind of slight.

From what I’ve been hearing, Vick and McNabb are friends, and McNabb actually lobbied for Vick to come to Philly.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-michael-vick-return-pool/503819/79 "2009-08-14T23:14:46Z")

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> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#):
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> From what I’ve been hearing, Vick and McNabb are friends, and McNabb actually lobbied for Vick to come to Philly.

I heard that too. Apparently McNabb hosted Vick when he visited Syracuse as a recruit, and they’ve been friends since.

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**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2009, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-michael-vick-return-pool/503819/80 "2009-08-15T15:40:02Z")

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i’m starting to get over the shock of what is happening in my town a bit. thankfully i’m a dolfan and don’t really pay much attention to the eagles unless something hit the news.

leading theory that was discussed in work yest. was that there maybe an annoucement that running back injuries are going to put him into that slot.

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