# The middle fecking east. (this will get me hated by all liberal hippie types)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 21, 2003, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-middle-fecking-east-this-will-get-me-hated-by-all-liberal-hippie-types/176575 "2003-05-21T15:28:29Z")\
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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2003, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-middle-fecking-east-this-will-get-me-hated-by-all-liberal-hippie-types/176575/21 "2003-05-21T16:02:59Z")

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> \*Originally posted by jarbabyj \*  
> \*\*I suggest, and follow me, hunting down the terrorists and punishing them (if they get killed in that process so be it), and leaving the innocent Middle Easterners, of which there are millions, to live their lives and rebuild their countries.
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> Also, stricter VISA qualifications and verifications. \*\*

Anyone can get a VISA. Make 'em apply for American Express.

BTW, have attempts been made to track down Osama bin Laden through his college alumni organization? Those people can usually find you no matter where you hide.

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**Author:** ![Arfur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/57b2e6/32.png) [@Arfur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arfur)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2003, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-middle-fecking-east-this-will-get-me-hated-by-all-liberal-hippie-types/176575/22 "2003-05-21T16:03:09Z")

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ahem, freyer, see the post before yours, that you ignored.

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**Author:** ![TwistofFate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2003, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-middle-fecking-east-this-will-get-me-hated-by-all-liberal-hippie-types/176575/23 "2003-05-21T16:04:40Z")

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We have lumps of it, around the back.

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**Author:** ![Arfur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/57b2e6/32.png) [@Arfur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arfur)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2003, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-middle-fecking-east-this-will-get-me-hated-by-all-liberal-hippie-types/176575/24 "2003-05-21T16:08:56Z")

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Too bad I don’t express myself too well either. I really don’t hate the world, no I don’t want to see innocent people die. I am not 12, and finally the post really wasn’t meant to be taken in the way it was. Sorry for getting some of your panties in a bunch. I know what a troll is, and that wasn’t the intention either. Letting this one die.

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2003, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-middle-fecking-east-this-will-get-me-hated-by-all-liberal-hippie-types/176575/25 "2003-05-21T16:09:59Z")

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I know where to get some, if you want some.

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**Author:** ![yojimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yojimbo/32/232_2.png) [@yojimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yojimbo)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2003, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-middle-fecking-east-this-will-get-me-hated-by-all-liberal-hippie-types/176575/26 "2003-05-21T16:15:17Z")

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Motion to give **Arfur** a 2nd chance.

Any 2nds?

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**Author:** ![elfje](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19b73/32.png) [@elfje](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfje)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2003, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-middle-fecking-east-this-will-get-me-hated-by-all-liberal-hippie-types/176575/27 "2003-05-21T16:15:25Z")

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what, lumps?

what would you use them for, those lumps?

🙂

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**Author:** ![Wolfian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/7ea924/32.png) [@Wolfian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolfian)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2003, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-middle-fecking-east-this-will-get-me-hated-by-all-liberal-hippie-types/176575/28 "2003-05-21T16:16:09Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Arfur \*  
> **B) Move the Jews to Jersey, Nuke the entire middle east, and make the French drill for oil in radiation suits…**

As much as I love my state I somehow don’t think its the land of promise from the Bible. They wouldn’t be very happy. Maybe the Isle of Jersey…

May I ask how you decided on Jersey? Just curious.

I somehow don’t think genocide will solve our problems. **Happy** hit the nail on the head.

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**Author:** ![Arfur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/57b2e6/32.png) [@Arfur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arfur)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2003, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-middle-fecking-east-this-will-get-me-hated-by-all-liberal-hippie-types/176575/29 "2003-05-21T16:25:52Z")

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> \*Originally posted by yojimbo \*  
> \*\*Motion to give **Arfur** a 2nd chance.
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> Any 2nds? \*\*

Thank you. I think a made a mistake… Deletion seems to be a better course of action.  
😉

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2003, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-middle-fecking-east-this-will-get-me-hated-by-all-liberal-hippie-types/176575/30 "2003-05-21T16:26:30Z")

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> \*Originally posted by yojimbo \*  
> \*\*Motion to give **Arfur** a 2nd chance.
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> Any 2nds? \*\*

I second.

A noble retraction indicates that he’s probably a lot cooler than this post indicates.

And he used the word “fecking”.

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**Author:** ![Purd\_Werfect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e47c2d/32.png) [@Purd\_Werfect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Purd_Werfect)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2003, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-middle-fecking-east-this-will-get-me-hated-by-all-liberal-hippie-types/176575/31 "2003-05-21T16:27:18Z")

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This solution will certainly differentiate us from the Terrorists. I suppose God must be on our side though, so the mass killing of innocent civilians is quite warranted.

I can only hope you’re actively seeking a high-ranking cabinet position Arfur. Your mindset is just what this world needs.

Bless You Sir!

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**Author:** ![Purd\_Werfect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e47c2d/32.png) [@Purd\_Werfect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Purd_Werfect)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2003, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-middle-fecking-east-this-will-get-me-hated-by-all-liberal-hippie-types/176575/32 "2003-05-21T16:28:53Z")

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Geeze Arfur, no fair retracting when I didn’t bother to read all your posts in this thread - specifically the one where you recanted your position.

I’m sorry, but you have lost my vote you scoundrel.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2003, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-middle-fecking-east-this-will-get-me-hated-by-all-liberal-hippie-types/176575/33 "2003-05-21T16:32:04Z")

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There are a few extreme, right-wing reactionary conservatives who aren’t terribly fond of you either.

I have nothing of substance to add, but the OP doesn’t merit any.

I do like pie, though.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2003, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-middle-fecking-east-this-will-get-me-hated-by-all-liberal-hippie-types/176575/34 "2003-05-21T16:32:21Z")

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> \*Originally posted by yojimbo \*  
> \*\*Motion to give **Arfur** a 2nd chance.
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> Any 2nds? \*\*

Not from me. The second chances are built-in around here. **Arfur** needs to make the choice to take his and make good use of it.

Nobody has called for a banning (yet), although it wouldn’t surprise me terribly to come upon a Pitting of him in the near future. If I do, I don’t have any need or intention to pile on. I would expect that if **Arfur** is sincere about wanting to be an IFD[sup]TM[/sup]\* and finds himself Pitted, he will apologize for having made a poor first impression and resist any temptation to escalate.

In accordance with that expectation, I will simply say, “Welcome to the SDMB, **Arfur**. Let’s go fight some ignorance.”

\*Ignorance Fightin’ Doper

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2003, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-middle-fecking-east-this-will-get-me-hated-by-all-liberal-hippie-types/176575/35 "2003-05-21T16:35:51Z")

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> \*Originally posted by yojimbo \*  
> \*\*Not being a [troll](http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mtroll.html) would be a good start. \*\*

Being a stupid fucking idiot does not always equate to trolling. Please be aware of the difference before throwing out the troll accusation, and for fucks sake email a mod and spare the hamsters.

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**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2003, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-middle-fecking-east-this-will-get-me-hated-by-all-liberal-hippie-types/176575/36 "2003-05-21T16:38:32Z")

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And lo, the lord looked upon the earth and saw a golden place, a garden state, a place of many odors and accents…and he said unto the Jews…goeth thou to Nutley.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2003, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-middle-fecking-east-this-will-get-me-hated-by-all-liberal-hippie-types/176575/37 "2003-05-21T16:38:53Z")

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> \*Originally posted by yojimbo \*  
> \*\*Motion to give **Arfur** a 2nd chance.
> 
> Any 2nds? \*\*

I’ll hesitatingly 2nd the motion for a 2nd chance.

As I wrote my original response, I felt myself mellowing (if you re-read it, you can actually see me going from pissed-off sarcastic to somewhat empathetic).

It’s easy to sit around with your friends and spout out some outlandish off-the-wall solution to a problem. In the past four months, I’ve heard friends say-- in regard to the Middle Eastern situation-- things like “Let’s just nuke 'em and get it over with,” and “Let’s just annex the Middle East and make all the countries states.”

I didn’t lecture them, I didn’t yell at them and tell them what assholes they are being. I might roll my eyes, shake my head and chuckle. But I know that that isn’t the solution, and they (I think) know that that isn’t the solution. It’s just some stupid remark, often said as a result of frustration or whatever.

Granted, it’s hard to tell the tone of one’s voice when they’re posting on a MB, and it’s even more difficult to tell the intentions of a post from a new member. We all aren’t your buddies (yet) **Arfur** , so when you say something as offensive as you did in the OP, we tend to take you as a serious troll.

Just watch what you say, **Arfur**. People tend to take things at face value (as well they should) around here.  
But benefit of the doubt and all that jazz.

Happy

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2003, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-middle-fecking-east-this-will-get-me-hated-by-all-liberal-hippie-types/176575/38 "2003-05-21T16:42:30Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Thank you. I think a made a mistake… Deletion seems to be a better course of action.

On the post where you entered this quote, click on the **Report this post to a moderator** hyperlink and when the message windo pops up, type in “I think this was a mistake. Please close this thread.” and press **Submit**.

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**Author:** ![yojimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yojimbo/32/232_2.png) [@yojimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yojimbo)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2003, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-middle-fecking-east-this-will-get-me-hated-by-all-liberal-hippie-types/176575/39 "2003-05-21T16:48:33Z")

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**World Eater**  
One post isn’t going to kill any hamster and how do you know what I did or didn’t do? As it happens I did coz I used the T word. If a mod wants to tear me a new one they can but you can go ask my bollocks.

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2003, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-middle-fecking-east-this-will-get-me-hated-by-all-liberal-hippie-types/176575/40 "2003-05-21T17:00:45Z")

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**yojimbo** , how about a new thread in MPSIMS to go with the bisexual, gay guy and lesbian ones?

“Ask my bollocks”

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