# The minty green and Ex Tank appreciation thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 6, 2002, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-minty-green-and-ex-tank-appreciation-thread/112696 "2002-06-06T16:39:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![minty\_green](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f6c823/32.png) [@minty\_green](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/minty_green)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2002, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-minty-green-and-ex-tank-appreciation-thread/112696/21 "2002-06-06T19:31:44Z")
**catsix** , I have no desire to rehash that details of [that thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=114012&perpage=50&pagenumber=2), which _was_ in the Pit, after all. Suffice it to say that I believe I had ample reason to use sharp words with you on that occasion, and that I bear no grudge. ---
**Author:** ![xenophon41](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xenophon41/32/253_2.png) [@xenophon41](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xenophon41)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2002, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-minty-green-and-ex-tank-appreciation-thread/112696/22 "2002-06-06T19:34:34Z")
Well, the panelists comments were pretty atrocious, but it apparently wasn’t _all_ bad at that conference, **gobear** — > [@](#): > > _(from the article):_ > The Reno convention drew about 40,000 attendees, among them at least one member of the gay gun-rights group, the Pink Pistols. Tom Boyer, 44, of San Francisco, left the convention before the panel discussion and said he would take up the reported comments with NRA brass, adding that he found a generally warm reception overall. > > Boyer noted that, at a members’ forum in Reno on Saturday, he introduced himself as a Pink Pistol and urged the NRA not to mix other social issues into the agenda of the gun-rights organization. Other members supported that comment, he said. > > “I did have an NRA director come up and actually ask what he could do to help the Pink Pistols,” Boyer said. “So there certainly is an outreach effort.” ---
**Author:** ![catsix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e19b73/32.png) [@catsix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/catsix)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2002, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-minty-green-and-ex-tank-appreciation-thread/112696/23 "2002-06-06T19:39:42Z")
**minty** , you took it upon yourself to start getting juvenile. I’ve never been remotely ‘sharp’ to you before, only disagreed with your philosophy. You were ‘sharp’ (mean as hell) to a lot of people in that thread, acting like a spoiled know-it-all with people who never gave you reason to say the things you did. Personally, I don’t give a crap if you bear a grudge or not. You have been condescending and mean too many times to ever merit my respect, though. ---
**Author:** ![BF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b5ac83/32.png) [@BF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BF)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2002, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-minty-green-and-ex-tank-appreciation-thread/112696/24 "2002-06-06T20:02:02Z")
Dang!! Not even a passing reference to my “let’s stick to the op”. I guess my application for clique status has been circular filed. ---
**Author:** ![minty\_green](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f6c823/32.png) [@minty\_green](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/minty_green)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2002, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-minty-green-and-ex-tank-appreciation-thread/112696/25 "2002-06-06T20:04:01Z")
Guess it’s pistols at dawn, then? I got dibs on Ex Tank for my second. ---
**Author:** ![UncleBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/977dab/32.png) [@UncleBeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBeer)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2002, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-minty-green-and-ex-tank-appreciation-thread/112696/26 "2002-06-06T20:15:23Z")
> [@](#): > > . . . here is a link to comments made by others at the NRA conference. And those are reprehensible enough. I understand your enmity, **gobear**. I’d like to tell you though, that my gun club website does have a link to the Pink Pistols site and that the panelists comments in no way reflect the feelings of most of the NRA members I know. ---
**Author:** ![Max\_Torque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Max\_Torque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_Torque)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2002, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-minty-green-and-ex-tank-appreciation-thread/112696/27 "2002-06-06T22:16:24Z")
In an otherwise-civilized thread, **minty green** can say to **catsix** , “Go felch a goat,” simply because the thread is in the Pit? Well, assuming the same is true of _this_ thread: **minty** , you are a sheep-chasing, penguin-raping, donkey-fellating, horse-squicking, dog-snowballing, lemur-stuffing, warthog-fucking, filthy rotten scab-encrusted gangrenous canker on the anus of humanity. And you debate like old people fuck. ahhhh…you know, that _does_ feel better. ---
**Author:** ![minty\_green](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f6c823/32.png) [@minty\_green](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/minty_green)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2002, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-minty-green-and-ex-tank-appreciation-thread/112696/28 "2002-06-06T23:19:58Z")
The thread was far from civilized by the time **catsix** showed up on page two. However, I was still perfectly civil to her until she demanded two or three times that I prove a negative, then taunted me for failing to prove my case when I told her–twice–that definitively demonstrating a negative proposition was logically impossible. So bugger off, ya stupid git. ---
**Author:** ![FallenAngel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@FallenAngel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FallenAngel)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2002, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-minty-green-and-ex-tank-appreciation-thread/112696/29 "2002-06-06T23:25:54Z")
I tend to stay out of gun control debates just because they fall under the general heading of “Politics, Religion and Redheaded Women,” and teaching pigs to sing has never been a fun passtime for me. However, even though I adamantly oppose any and all efforts at gun control, I do admire people on either side of the issue who stick to the facts as they understand them and argue with courtesy and reason. Of course, there have been some threads [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=110419](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=110419) that turn into gun control debates anyway, and to me the same rules apply, even if not to some others. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/e/e489c3b7d8fce19c4b355dd4fc3f88cc39c34b87.png) [@system](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2002, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-minty-green-and-ex-tank-appreciation-thread/112696/30 "2002-06-06T23:44:46Z")
While I have nothing against -as some may be aware- a good fight, I would like to say that Ex-Tank single handedly raised my appreciation of the anti-Gun Control folks. I tend to think of myself as neutral on this matter and not well-enough informed to participate, but I do like posters who have solid logical facilities, an ability to engage the argument and integrate factual responses. Both do so well, and poor little stupid whinging illogical crybabies like catsix get caught in the crossfire, well, tough. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Ryan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7feea3/32.png) [@The\_Ryan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Ryan)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2002, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-minty-green-and-ex-tank-appreciation-thread/112696/31 "2002-06-07T00:01:35Z")
Let me echo catsix’s sentiments. I attempted to engage mg in a debate in this matter, and I believe that **that** thread was in GD, not the Pit. He refused to address my points, and then proceeded to go around to other threads in which I was participating and direct snippy comments at me. It seems to me that if minty green had a problem with my posting style, he should have discussed them in the original thread, or else started a thread devoted to that issue, instead of hijacking other threads to make oblique allusions to them. I still don’t know what prompted him to ignore me, and if he has any desire to see me refrain from the offending behavior, his strategy is a rather poor one. ---
**Author:** ![minty\_green](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f6c823/32.png) [@minty\_green](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/minty_green)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2002, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-minty-green-and-ex-tank-appreciation-thread/112696/32 "2002-06-07T00:21:11Z")
**Ryan** , as you may be aware, many people have problems with your posting style, which often focuses on semantical nitpicking rather than substantive discussion of the issues. (Is SenorBeef your little brother, by any chance?) Nevertheless, I pretty much always make an effort to address substantive comments or questions in gun control threads where I am participating. That sometimes becomes difficult because your side tends to swarm whenever the subject arises, leaving me to respond to an almost impractical number of posts and posters. If you would provide a cite to show where I have failed to address your gun control concerns, I would be happy to do so now. ---
**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2002, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-minty-green-and-ex-tank-appreciation-thread/112696/33 "2002-06-07T00:56:07Z")
**Ryan** You have attempted to hijack this thread. And you are accusing **minty** of following you around the board, dissing you in other threads. As if he has the time or inclination to do such. :rolleyes: Get the fuck over yourself. :mad: ---
**Author:** ![Max\_Torque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Max\_Torque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_Torque)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2002, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-minty-green-and-ex-tank-appreciation-thread/112696/34 "2002-06-07T01:04:38Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by minty green \* > **The thread was far from civilized by the time catsix showed up on page two.** The obvious followup question would be: who _made_ the thread uncivilized in the first place? ---
**Author:** ![minty\_green](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f6c823/32.png) [@minty\_green](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/minty_green)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2002, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-minty-green-and-ex-tank-appreciation-thread/112696/35 "2002-06-07T01:10:08Z")
That would be **Tedster** , who labeled as “damn fools” anybody who didn’t agree with a proposition for which he was subsequently unable, through approximately five more pages, to demonstrate even a shred of substantive support. ---
**Author:** ![minty\_green](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f6c823/32.png) [@minty\_green](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/minty_green)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2002, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-minty-green-and-ex-tank-appreciation-thread/112696/36 "2002-06-07T01:13:50Z")
Hey **Ryan** , what the fuck are you talking about? Your name and my name appear together in only three GD threads over the last year, and [only one](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=106497&perpage=50&highlight=ryan%20minty%20green&pagenumber=4) of those threads is about guns. As you will note on pages 4 and 5, I specifically replied to your inquiries. I appear to have missed whatever questions you may have asked in your post on page 6, though I confess that I still don’t see any inquiry that asked for anything that hadn’t already been addressed in the same thread. Take it easy, **samclem**. Though I honestly don’t know what he’s referring to here, I don’t see even an inference that **Ryan** accusing me of stalking him through the SDMB. Rather the oposite in fact–his claim is that I ignored his noble efforts to prove that firearms are the most important things in the world, or some such stuff. Anyway, I’m not offended, just intrigued as to what the heck he’s talking about. ---
**Author:** ![Spavined\_Gelding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/958977/32.png) [@Spavined\_Gelding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spavined_Gelding)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2002, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-minty-green-and-ex-tank-appreciation-thread/112696/37 "2002-06-07T01:43:15Z")
This being the Pit: Jesus, Mary and Joseph! Is there no end to this? There are some topics that just open the front door for irrationality and self-absorption. There is about as much point to raising the gun control/Second Amendment topic here as there is for standing up for abortion at a Knights of Columbus meeting. The point of this thread was to complement **Minty Green** and **Ex-Tank** for conduction a rational discussion. I complement them, too. As far as the rest of the balderdash about who was snippy with whom, President Truman’s adage applies: if you can’t take the heat, get out of the kitchen. Some days this place is like a remedial reading class for 12 year olds. ---
**Author:** ![catsix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e19b73/32.png) [@catsix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/catsix)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2002, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-minty-green-and-ex-tank-appreciation-thread/112696/38 "2002-06-07T01:46:38Z")
Asking someone to provide a cite that backs up a claim like “the founders specifically said x was not a reason for y” is not the same thing asking you to prove a negative **minty**. It’s asking you to provide a cite for something you claimed people actually said. You couldn’t do it, so you told me to felch a goat. Now since this is the Pit, and by your own admission it’s not necessary to be civil here (although until this point I have been civil)… Grab your shoulders, pull firmly, and dislodge your head from your arrogant, egotistical condescending, smug ass. You have been nothing but a dickhead who thinks he’s better and smarter than everybody else and the only thing you’ve proven is that you’re more fucking belligerant. You’re a horrible debater and you whine and cry like a god damned 2 year-old (no offense to 2 year-olds) when you don’t get your way. The expression you used was ‘go felch a goat’, was it? Well _get on with it **minty** _. That’s it. The first and last time I will ever sink to your level. ---
**Author:** ![Spavined\_Gelding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/958977/32.png) [@Spavined\_Gelding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spavined_Gelding)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2002, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-minty-green-and-ex-tank-appreciation-thread/112696/39 "2002-06-07T01:50:12Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by catsix \* > \*\* > > Grab your shoulders, pull firmly, and dislodge your head from your arrogant, egotistical condescending, smug ass. You have been nothing but a dickhead who thinks he’s better and smarter than everybody else and the only thing you’ve proven is that you’re more fucking belligerant. You’re a horrible debater and you whine and cry like a god damned 2 year-old (no offense to 2 year-olds) when you don’t get your way. The expression you used was ‘go felch a goat’, was it? > > Well _get on with it **minty** _. > > That’s it. The first and last time I will ever sink to your level. \*\* Like I said, a remedial reading class for 12 year olds. ---
**Author:** ![minty\_green](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f6c823/32.png) [@minty\_green](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/minty_green)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2002, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-minty-green-and-ex-tank-appreciation-thread/112696/40 "2002-06-07T01:52:03Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by catsix \* > Asking someone to provide a cite that backs up a claim like “the founders specifically said x was not a reason for y” is not the same thing asking you to prove a negative **minty**. Very nice. Please demonstrate where I said any such thing. Use the quote function. Tell me what page it’s one. Or, alternatively, you could read the fucking thread and acknowledge that I said no such thing. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-minty-green-and-ex-tank-appreciation-thread/112696.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-minty-green-and-ex-tank-appreciation-thread/112696.md?page=3)