# The moment(s) when Sex and the City made you want to throw your TV across the room **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 17, 2008, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-moment-s-when-sex-and-the-city-made-you-want-to-throw-your-tv-across-the-room/463996 "2008-09-17T17:00:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2008, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-moment-s-when-sex-and-the-city-made-you-want-to-throw-your-tv-across-the-room/463996/41 "2008-09-18T02:53:44Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > Charlotte? Attractive? The woman had the mannerisms of a startled parrot. My GF is basically Charlotte. Really the only one I hate is Carrie. All the other characters showed development and growth by dating outside of their model: Miranda eventually had a kid and settled down with blue collar bartender Steve Smantha (actually my favorite as she is the most honest character) eventually settled into a serious relationship with her model client Smith Jared Charlotte married her bald uncouth divorce attorney And yet Carrie still pines for Mr Big. Even the GF had to change the channel during the episode where she cheats on Aiden. This show inspires me to go out and bang the fuck out of really shallow New York women. My GF watches a lot of Sex in the City and that’s how I know so much about it. I’m not gay or anything. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Fight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/90ced4/32.png) [@Cat\_Fight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Fight)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2008, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-moment-s-when-sex-and-the-city-made-you-want-to-throw-your-tv-across-the-room/463996/42 "2008-09-18T03:25:28Z")
> [@Carl\_Corey](#): > > :rolleyes: > > Way to wave that broad brush. Hey, I’m actually basing this on a real, printed poll a friend of mine ran in her sex column (oddly enough, not the biggest fan of Carrie. Well, maybe not so odd). Out of 500+ responses, she got maybe five hetero men who didn’t like Charlotte the most – or, as others have suggested, find her the least offensive. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2008, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-moment-s-when-sex-and-the-city-made-you-want-to-throw-your-tv-across-the-room/463996/43 "2008-09-18T03:45:03Z")
> [@Cat\_Fight](#): > > Hey, I’m actually basing this on a real, printed poll a friend of mine ran in her sex column (oddly enough, not the biggest fan of Carrie. Well, maybe not so odd). Out of 500+ responses, she got maybe five hetero men who didn’t like Charlotte the most – or, as others have suggested, find her the least offensive. And you don’t think that had a whole lot more to do with her being the only attractive one rather than her being the “submissive girl next door” type?. I bet the results would have been even more stacked in her favor if she had been the slut. ---
**Author:** ![Hilarity\_N.Suze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hilarity_n.suze/32/6223_2.png) [@Hilarity\_N.Suze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hilarity_N.Suze)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2008, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-moment-s-when-sex-and-the-city-made-you-want-to-throw-your-tv-across-the-room/463996/44 "2008-09-18T04:18:17Z")
A friend of mine told me I’d probably like this show. I watched…one…scene. It went on…for…ever. Re-e-e-a-a-l-l-y s-s-s-l-l-l-l-o-o-o-o-w-w-w p-p-p-a-a-a-c-c-c-i-i-i-n-n-g. I did not want to throw my TV across the room, I merely wanted to kick its face in. I think this is why I don’t watch television much at all. I can read as fast as I want and skip over the boring stuff. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2008, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-moment-s-when-sex-and-the-city-made-you-want-to-throw-your-tv-across-the-room/463996/45 "2008-09-18T04:33:46Z")
> [@Cat\_Fight](#): > > It is funny how 99 percent of real-life men can’t stand anyone but submissive, girl next door Charlotte. You’re greatly overestimating the degree to which men care about (or are aware of) the personalities of the characters. Kristen Davis was the most conventionally attractive of the four actresses. Had she, say, switched roles with Cynthia Nixon and played Miranda, then Miranda would be the male favourite. Personally, I think Davis is the hottest actress of the four, but Miranda was the most interesting character (or more accurately, the one I disliked the least). ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2008, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-moment-s-when-sex-and-the-city-made-you-want-to-throw-your-tv-across-the-room/463996/46 "2008-09-18T04:35:22Z")
This is not a show that should make you hurl your TV with great force. It should be cast aside lightly. ---
**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2008, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-moment-s-when-sex-and-the-city-made-you-want-to-throw-your-tv-across-the-room/463996/47 "2008-09-18T04:43:40Z")
I love the show, but… a lot of things about it annoyed me. The biggest thing that bothered me was how these women claim to be looking avidly for a good relationship with a decent guy, but then break up with men (or cause the men to break up with them) for the stupidest reasons. Some of them have been mentioned already in this thread. The “throw the TV” thing for me was how Carrie treated Aidan. Maybe he wasn’t right for her, but goddamn did she string him along. He was kind, devoted, hot, hard working, etc. Perfect boyfriend, everything she ever wanted, esp. after Big fucked her over multiple times. Cheated on him with Big (who is an unimitigated douchebag). Gets back with him. Begs Aidan to get back with her, they move in together. Intimacy is too much for her, but he proposes, she freaks out on him. THEN has the nerve to be upset that he has negative feels about her after the second break up. Also, the way she keeps going back to Big, aggravating. Miranda gets pissed off at one point says she’s not going to talk to Carrie about anything when she gets back with Big after the umpteenth reunion, and I agreed with her, but of course Miranda caves. And things go as per usual with Big, yet again. None of them are really capable of appreciating a good guy when they have one. Witness the travails of Harry with Charlotte, Steve with Miranda, Aidan with Carrie, and Smith with Samantha. Ultimately some of them straightened up and flew right, but really, I don’t think the show portrays any of them in a flattering light. They are all neurotic messes. Yet somehow, I like the show. Can’t remember why right now, though. PS-- Berger is the one exception. He was a whiny jerk with an inferiority complex and Carrie bent over backwards to try to assuage his pathetic ego, but short of undoing her own success and critical faculties, there was no pleasing him. And the post-it note break up? Cowardly and lame. ---
**Author:** ![Sublight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@Sublight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sublight)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2008, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-moment-s-when-sex-and-the-city-made-you-want-to-throw-your-tv-across-the-room/463996/48 "2008-09-18T04:45:12Z")
> [@Cat\_Fight](#): > > It is funny how 99 percent of real-life men can’t stand anyone but submissive, girl next door Charlotte. The problem here is that you’ve watched the show enough to know that Charlotte is submissive (although personally, I think passive-aggressive is a better descriptor), while most of the men commenting on the show have probably only watched enough to notice she’s the most (perhaps only) physically attractive one of the bunch. I seriously doubt most guys find her personality anything but a turn-off. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2008, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-moment-s-when-sex-and-the-city-made-you-want-to-throw-your-tv-across-the-room/463996/49 "2008-09-18T04:53:25Z")
Patty: They’re four single women… who act like gay men! ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2008, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-moment-s-when-sex-and-the-city-made-you-want-to-throw-your-tv-across-the-room/463996/50 "2008-09-18T04:57:08Z")
I liked watching the show – it’s eye candy, really – even though I didn’t like most of the characters. One of the things that bugged me was that the women cared too much what the others thought of their boyfriends. But there’s some truth in that, at least when you’re young and superficial. Or old and superficial. Other things that bugged me have already been mentioned – like Carrie wondering why she was broke when she had $40,000 worth of shoes, and then depending on her friends to bail her out. Another thing was Charlotte freaking out when her husband (the second one – the nice bald one) sat naked on their bed. He’d just had a shower, for pete’s sake – he’s not gonna leave a streak on the damn bed. She treated him like he wasn’t housebroken. I liked Samantha best, and felt so bad for her in an episode where she was down with the flu. She was messing around with the drapes and they fell down. She needed help putting the rod back up but none of her male “friends” would come over. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2008, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-moment-s-when-sex-and-the-city-made-you-want-to-throw-your-tv-across-the-room/463996/51 "2008-09-18T05:24:26Z")
My mother and my sister LOVE this show. Every time they watch it, I have to put my headphones on full blast-any little bit of dialog makes me want to gouge my brain out with a set of salad tongs. GAAAAAAAA!!! ---
**Author:** ![Illuminatiprimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/illuminatiprimus/32/11520_2.png) [@Illuminatiprimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Illuminatiprimus)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2008, 7:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-moment-s-when-sex-and-the-city-made-you-want-to-throw-your-tv-across-the-room/463996/52 "2008-09-18T07:51:23Z")
> [@AuntiePam](#): > > I liked Samantha best, and felt so bad for her in an episode where she was down with the flu. She was messing around with the drapes and they fell down. She needed help putting the rod back up but none of her male “friends” would come over. Even sadder was when she met James, a guy she (shock) actually liked enough to want to date. She was really into him but found out he had a small cock, and despite trying to get over it (so to speak) found she just couldn’t. At one point she’s in the toilet with the girls crying because this guy she likes so much misses the thing she wants most in a man. You might find that a shallow thing to go for but I found that scene heart breaking because she clearly had strong feelings for him but knew the relationship was doomed, unlike the other fuckwits who broke up with their boyfriend of the week because, oh, I dunno, they found out they didn’t have the same favourite colour. ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2008, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-moment-s-when-sex-and-the-city-made-you-want-to-throw-your-tv-across-the-room/463996/53 "2008-09-18T12:54:22Z")
> [@Sr\_Siete](#): > > I only watched a couple of episodes, and the thing that I found weirder is how a woman that literally writes about sex seemed to have the sexual knowledge of a nun. > > In one episode they were all astonished at the idea of _gasp_ uncircumcised men, and the other had her considering breaking up a relationship because _shudder_ he wanted her to pee on him in the shower, a practice she’d never, apparently, heard of. The one where they were all horrified by being kissed after a guy went down on them was awful. For such supposedly empowered women, they sure thought their vaginas were dirty and gross! ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2008, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-moment-s-when-sex-and-the-city-made-you-want-to-throw-your-tv-across-the-room/463996/54 "2008-09-18T13:00:57Z")
Oh, yeah, and the time Carrie screeched over and over “You have to forgive me! You have to forgive me!” Idiot. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2008, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-moment-s-when-sex-and-the-city-made-you-want-to-throw-your-tv-across-the-room/463996/55 "2008-09-18T16:31:03Z")
> [@lissener](#): > > I hate _Sex and the City_; I can’t watch a minute and a half of it without wanting to throw my TV across the room. It is to feminism what _Song of the South_ is to racial equality. Gleefully misogynist claptrap that just makes me see red. Yes, but it had two hot chicks as stars. That excuses much. ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2008, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-moment-s-when-sex-and-the-city-made-you-want-to-throw-your-tv-across-the-room/463996/56 "2008-09-18T16:40:49Z")
> [@Drain\_Bead](#): > > The one where they were all horrified by being kissed after a guy went down on them was awful. For such supposedly empowered women, they sure thought their vaginas were dirty and gross! I don’t remember this one. Were they horrified or just surprised? I’m a lightweight when it comes to sexual partners (3 in 40+ years of doin’ it) but a friend who **isn’t** a lightweight told me once that she’d only slept with one guy who wanted to kiss after oral. ---
**Author:** ![Natch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/858c86/32.png) [@Natch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Natch)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2008, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-moment-s-when-sex-and-the-city-made-you-want-to-throw-your-tv-across-the-room/463996/57 "2008-09-18T16:58:19Z")
Argh! I saw some of this last night and here is the shining example of Carrie’s behaviour from that particular episode… She’s in a restaurant for lunch, and Big’s wife walks in, gives her a dirty look and leaves. Although she felt fine two minutes ago, she now feels guilty for having an affair with Big while he was married to this girl. She is so distraught over someone not liking her, she finds out where this girl is having lunch the next day, and turns up to apologise, so she can be forgiven and not feel bad anymore. The girl then calls her out for sleeping with her husband, sleeping with her husband in her house, sleeping with her husband in her house and then still being there when she walks in, running away from her causing her to fall down a staircase and break her tooth and her face, now her two front teeth are not the same colour, and finally her divorce over the whole thing. Hahaha! Yes! That girl was awesome. How can Carrie not see that if you do all that to someone they will _hate_ you. And she has no right to get upset over a dirty look in a restaurant! Does she learn her lesson though? No. She concludes that Big’s ex wife is mad because her actions ‘caused a chain of events’ that lead this girl to be back in the singles market again. And women need to stick together in these times! It’s hard enough to find a man as it is! Argh! ---
**Author:** ![shy\_guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a6a055/32.png) [@shy\_guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shy_guy)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2008, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-moment-s-when-sex-and-the-city-made-you-want-to-throw-your-tv-across-the-room/463996/58 "2008-09-18T16:59:03Z")
> [@AuntiePam](#): > > I don’t remember this one. Were they horrified or just surprised? I’m a lightweight when it comes to sexual partners (3 in 40+ years of doin’ it) but a friend who **isn’t** a lightweight told me once that she’d only slept with one guy who wanted to kiss after oral. All I remember about this is that it happend to Miranda, with the guy who she met at Weight Watchers. He went to kiss her after going down on her, and as I recall she was horrified. I believe that the other women shared her reaction when they talked it over the next day, but don’t quote me on that. Given the experience of your friend, I suppose it is something that happens, but given how liberated these women were supposed to be, they certainly were pansies in the bedroom. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2008, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-moment-s-when-sex-and-the-city-made-you-want-to-throw-your-tv-across-the-room/463996/59 "2008-09-18T17:02:22Z")
> [@Natch](#): > > Hahaha! Yes! That girl was awesome. How can Carrie not see that if you do all that to someone they will _hate_ you. And she has no right to get upset over a dirty look in a restaurant! And then after she cheated on Aidan and then dumped him, she was mortified that people might think less of her for treating him like crap. ---
**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2008, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-moment-s-when-sex-and-the-city-made-you-want-to-throw-your-tv-across-the-room/463996/60 "2008-09-18T17:11:38Z")
> [@Risha](#): > > My moments were mostly fashion related. They also involved a lot of shrieking on my part. You said it–her clothes are supposed to be quirky and stylish but sometimes, OMG. Once she had a bare midriff and a thin green belt around it. Ugh. And it’s hard for me to get past the idea that this horse-face bow-legged woman is supposed to be sexy. > [@acsenray](#): > > 1. Any time Carrie starts reading from her column. That has to be the lamest, worst written newspaper column of any kind. “I couldn’t help but wonder…” ARGH. I do watch the show for the cartoonishness of it and to shake my head at the cluelessness of the women. But I wondered about in the movie where in the end Carrie and Big are on the floor of the closet room “This is what I pictured when I built the room” as if they are post-coital, FULLY CLOTHED?!??! Maybe neither of them wanted to show any skin anymore?? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-moment-s-when-sex-and-the-city-made-you-want-to-throw-your-tv-across-the-room/463996.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-moment-s-when-sex-and-the-city-made-you-want-to-throw-your-tv-across-the-room/463996.md?page=4)