# The Most Awful Person in Entertainment

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-awful-person-in-entertainment/539309>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [May 13, 2010, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-awful-person-in-entertainment/539309 "2010-05-13T16:12:10Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![koufax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/7ea924/32.png) [@koufax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/koufax)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2010, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-awful-person-in-entertainment/539309/101 "2010-05-15T15:48:32Z")

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My vote goes to Mr. Pat Sajak

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**Author:** ![MTCicero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a4c791/32.png) [@MTCicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MTCicero)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2010, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-awful-person-in-entertainment/539309/102 "2010-05-15T15:50:46Z")

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> [@Nzinga\_Seated](#):
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> Okie dokie.

Oh, right. I forgot, if you think the silly name thing’s, well, silly, you _just don’t get the hip-hop culture_. Gotcha!

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**Author:** ![MTCicero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a4c791/32.png) [@MTCicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MTCicero)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2010, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-awful-person-in-entertainment/539309/103 "2010-05-15T15:54:16Z")

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> [@A\_Dodgy\_Dude](#):
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> Bill Maher

Definitely.

I certainly can’t be the only liberal atheist on this board who finds Maher a smug, self-satisfied, execrable douchenozzle, right?

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**Author:** ![MTCicero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a4c791/32.png) [@MTCicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MTCicero)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2010, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-awful-person-in-entertainment/539309/104 "2010-05-15T15:57:00Z")

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> [@Nzinga\_Seated](#):
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> Yeah, you’re right. His name is his parent-given name. Dumb reason to hate him.

Here you speak sense. Kudos.

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**Author:** ![MTCicero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a4c791/32.png) [@MTCicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MTCicero)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2010, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-awful-person-in-entertainment/539309/105 "2010-05-15T16:01:27Z")

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> [@Mr.Miskatonic](#):
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> There is his constant recent tendency to race bait more talented directors who don’t put a sufficient number of token black people in them to his satisfaction.
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> Movies like ‘Letters from Iwo Jima’.
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> There’s also his gross overinflated sense of his own talents and his own works way beyond their deserved level (“Malcolm X is beyond the Oscars”)

Definitely reason to hate the guy. To my mind, he’s made one undisputed classic: **Do the Right Thing**. The rest of his oeuvre is made up of middling to outright poor fare.

> [@Mr.Miskatonic](#):
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> and his attacks on Tyler Perry and his works.

This, however, nearly redeems him. Seriously.

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**Author:** ![Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapioca_Dextrin)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2010, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-awful-person-in-entertainment/539309/106 "2010-05-15T16:20:52Z")

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> [@Poysyn](#):
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> Don Simpson - what do I win?

A dinner date for two. With Don Simpson.

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**Author:** ![MTCicero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a4c791/32.png) [@MTCicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MTCicero)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2010, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-awful-person-in-entertainment/539309/107 "2010-05-15T17:22:17Z")

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I can’t believe this thread has gone on this long without someone mentioning [this putz](http://www.tvworthwatching.com/werts/Jay_Leno%20boston%20whdh.jpg).

(Or have I just overlooked it?)

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**Author:** ![Kyla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@Kyla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyla)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2010, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-awful-person-in-entertainment/539309/108 "2010-05-15T18:12:14Z")

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> [@MTCicero](#):
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> I certainly can’t be the only liberal atheist on this board who finds Maher a smug, self-satisfied, execrable douchenozzle, right?

No. I hate him. And he doesn’t know what he’s fucking talking about, either! I’ve only seen him a few times lately and his ignorance of the topics he was being so smug about was appalling.

Let me rephrase that: if you’re going to act like a smug know-it-all on television, try to actually know what the fuck you’re talking about. I bet Jon Stewart could run rings around Bill Maher in terms of knowledge, but he doesn’t act like such a self-satisfied douchebag.

I dislike Rachel Maddow for her own smarmy smugness, but she does at least understand what she’s talking about.

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**Author:** ![Student\_Driver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3da27b/32.png) [@Student\_Driver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Student_Driver)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2010, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-awful-person-in-entertainment/539309/109 "2010-05-15T18:31:04Z")

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Most of my favorite (?) most awful folks have been mentioned-- Andy Dick was the first one I’d thought of, and I wholeheartedly agree with a number of others.

A few others I can’t stand (and, who knows, may have been mentioned, though I missed them):

**Nancy Grace**. Hounds people in ridiculously shrill, biased “interviews” (and is implicated in at least one suicide), jumped on the Duke lacrosse team bash-wagon, and seems to exist only to profit from dead white girls. It’s hard to believe she has a background in law, since she’s so quick to jump to (often incorrect) conclusions about guilt.

**GG Allin**. He meant to be awful, and in some weird way I actually kind of respect his success at it. [Wiki bio here.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gg_allin) He was better at these kinds of antics than [El Duce](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Duce_%28Mentors%29). Saw both in concert (at different times), something to never forget.

**Ty Cobb**. YMMV on considering sportsmen as entertainers. Read his [Wiki bio](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ty_Cobb).

(Edited to add: well, GG and Ty are both dead now, so I suppose they’re not _in_ Entertainment any more… still, from the grave they still can outdo a lot of folks.)

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2010, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-awful-person-in-entertainment/539309/110 "2010-05-15T19:43:03Z")

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> [@Kyla](#):
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> No. I hate him. And he doesn’t know what he’s fucking talking about, either! I’ve only seen him a few times lately and his ignorance of the topics he was being so smug about was appalling.
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> Let me rephrase that: if you’re going to act like a smug know-it-all on television, try to actually know what the fuck you’re talking about. I bet Jon Stewart could run rings around Bill Maher in terms of knowledge, but he doesn’t act like such a self-satisfied douchebag.
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> I dislike Rachel Maddow for her own smarmy smugness, but she does at least understand what she’s talking about.

Liberal=smug eh? Yawn.

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**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2010, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-awful-person-in-entertainment/539309/111 "2010-05-15T19:49:50Z")

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> [@Kyla](#):
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> I dislike Rachel Maddow for her own smarmy smugness, but she does at least understand what she’s talking about.

Really? You read that as “smarmy smugness”? Of all the talking heads on TV talking about politics, she may be the only one who actually knows what the fuck she’s talking about…or at least the only one talking about politics on TV with a Rhodes scholarship and PhD in politics from Oxford. So maybe, just maybe, she might qualify as an “expert” even by the standards of the Dope. Which, at least in my book, would excuse a small amount of “smugness”. Which I read as a natural sunniness and affability.

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2010, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-awful-person-in-entertainment/539309/112 "2010-05-15T19:57:32Z")

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Nah, the conservatives think liberals are smug because we keep pointing out how stupid their ideas are and being right about it. That’s got to get annoying after a while, so they think we are smug. How any liberal that saw Dubya win the Presidency twice could be smug is beyond me, but there it is.

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**Author:** ![Kyla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@Kyla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyla)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2010, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-awful-person-in-entertainment/539309/113 "2010-05-15T20:05:55Z")

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> [@gaffa](#):
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> Really? You read that as “smarmy smugness”? Of all the talking heads on TV talking about politics, she may be the only one who actually knows what the fuck she’s talking about…or at least the only one talking about politics on TV with a Rhodes scholarship and PhD in politics from Oxford. So maybe, just maybe, she might qualify as an “expert” even by the standards of the Dope. Which, at least in my book, would excuse a small amount of “smugness”. Which I read as a natural sunniness and affability.

I said she knows what she’s talking about. I’m familiar with her impressive resume. She just rubs me the wrong way. I’m aware that I’m the only liberal on the planet who feels this way, everyone else loves her.

**Evil Captor** , I am seriously amused. Mary 15, 2010. The day someone accused me of being a conservative. I shall remember this forever. (Well, at least for a few days.)

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**Author:** ![NDP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ndp/32/55_2.png) [@NDP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NDP)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2010, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-awful-person-in-entertainment/539309/114 "2010-05-15T21:27:58Z")

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> [@MTCicero](#):
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> Definitely.
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> I certainly can’t be the only liberal atheist on this board who finds Maher a smug, self-satisfied, execrable douchenozzle, right?

I haven’t gotten as far as you in my dislike of Maher (I still watch his show) but I find that since his religious “deconversion” he’s been increasingly becoming a Johnny-One-Note. For him, it’s not enough to disbelieve, you have to follow a specific doctrine of disbelief. There was an example of this on his May 14th show when he started taking one of his guests–another atheist–to task for being insufficiently irreligious according to\* his\* standards. Of course the only thing he succeeded in doing was undermine his argument that there’d be less dissension if there was less religion.

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**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2010, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-awful-person-in-entertainment/539309/115 "2010-05-15T21:34:51Z")

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**Author:** ![pravnik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pravnik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pravnik)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2010, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-awful-person-in-entertainment/539309/116 "2010-05-16T03:47:33Z")

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> [@Student\_Driver](#):
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> **GG Allin**. He meant to be awful, and in some weird way I actually kind of respect his success at it. [Wiki bio here.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gg_allin) He was better at these kinds of antics than [El Duce](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Duce_%28Mentors%29). Saw both in concert (at different times), something to never forget.

You’ve seen GG _and_ the Mentors? You are a brave concert goer.

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**Author:** ![Joanie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e95f7d/32.png) [@Joanie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joanie)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2010, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-awful-person-in-entertainment/539309/117 "2010-05-16T04:04:38Z")

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I’ve always felt that Kathy Griffin was at the top of the list.

If I’m standing at one end of my living room and my TV is at the other end and she comes on the air, I can actually fly across the room to hit the “change channel button” on the remote.

I’ve never been able to fly before and I really don’t understand it. But flying is a wonderful experience. So, actually, I’m kind of grateful to her.

But, for some reason I can’t explain, I still really, really hate her and can’t stand to watch her or listen to her voice on the air.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2010, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-awful-person-in-entertainment/539309/118 "2010-05-16T04:09:46Z")

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> [@MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](#):
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> As it happens, an actress has come forward just today claiming that she too was raped by Roman Polanski when she was just a tender 16 year old, sometime back in the 1980’s.
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> Dont know WHY she is coming forward only now, but she has that paragon of truth and virtue Gloria Allred as her representative, so Lord knows that $$$ COULDN’T be a factor… 😉

Where is she saying it happened? Polanski’s been out of the U.S. since the late '70s so there wouldn’t be justidiction here, anyway.

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**Author:** ![Student\_Driver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3da27b/32.png) [@Student\_Driver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Student_Driver)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2010, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-awful-person-in-entertainment/539309/119 "2010-05-16T04:12:20Z")

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> [@pravnik](#):
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> You’ve seen GG _and_ the Mentors? You are a brave concert goer.

Both when I was far younger. I really doubt I could do it now.

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**Author:** ![MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MPB_in_Salt_Lake)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2010, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-awful-person-in-entertainment/539309/120 "2010-05-16T17:26:01Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> Where is she saying it happened? Polanski’s been out of the U.S. since the late '70s so there wouldn’t be justidiction here, anyway.

I think she is English, and while I don’t know where she says that he “got at her”, but this has been a big story (I have seen it on national TV network news a couple of times and also on Yahoo News over the last few days) so much so that the California DA in charge of the Polanski case is interviewing this woman to see if her story can be used to bolster the contention that Roman Polanski is a serial predator…

I had thought that ol’ Roman Polanski was going to get a slap on the wrist (celebrity justice) from California and be free to live out his life in French pedophile luxury, but I am now wondering if he will end up spending a long stretch in a real, honest-to-God California prison cell.

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