# The Most Awful Person in Entertainment

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-awful-person-in-entertainment/539309>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [May 13, 2010, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-awful-person-in-entertainment/539309 "2010-05-13T16:12:10Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Perciful](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b38774/32.png) [@Perciful](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Perciful)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2010, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-awful-person-in-entertainment/539309/121 "2010-05-17T01:06:42Z")

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> [@NDP](#):
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> I haven’t gotten as far as you in my dislike of Maher (I still watch his show) but I find that since his religious “deconversion” he’s been increasingly becoming a Johnny-One-Note. For him, it’s not enough to disbelieve, you have to follow a specific doctrine of disbelief. There was an example of this on his May 14th show when he started taking one of his guests–another atheist–to task for being insufficiently irreligious according to\* his\* standards. Of course the only thing he succeeded in doing was undermine his argument that there’d be less dissension if there was less religion.

I know. It bothers me too. Maher needs to buy a ladder and climb over it … It’s not funny anymore then spray painting a church is. His anti religious humor has turned into anti religious hatred. I thought he was above that but obviously not.

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**Author:** ![MTCicero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a4c791/32.png) [@MTCicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MTCicero)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2010, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-awful-person-in-entertainment/539309/122 "2010-05-17T01:12:42Z")

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I can’t believe I’m saying this, but I agree with everything you just said.

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**Author:** ![sqweels](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f19dbf/32.png) [@sqweels](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sqweels)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2010, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-awful-person-in-entertainment/539309/123 "2010-05-17T01:35:28Z")

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> [@Jim\_s\_Son](#):
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> P  
> drummer Jim Gordon (“Derek and the Dominoes”) who murdered his mother.

And yet he’s still managing to have a career in entertainment?

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**Author:** ![filling\_pages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b9bd4f/32.png) [@filling\_pages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/filling_pages)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2010, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-awful-person-in-entertainment/539309/124 "2010-05-17T18:34:09Z")

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> [@kevja](#):
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> Mel Gibson
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> Carrie Underwood
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> Hank Williams III
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> Charlie Sheen

I have to ask, why Hank III?

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**Author:** ![Cardinal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardinal/32/4000_2.png) [@Cardinal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cardinal)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2010, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-awful-person-in-entertainment/539309/125 "2010-05-20T14:27:00Z")

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> [@Student\_Driver](#):
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> **GG Allin**. He meant to be awful, and in some weird way I actually kind of respect his success at it. [Wiki bio here.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gg_allin) He was better at these kinds of antics than [El Duce](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Duce_%28Mentors%29). Saw both in concert (at different times), something to never forget.

I ran into El Duce once on the Sunset Strip while we were hanging out on the street. I’m glad I’d never heard of him, because then I didn’t have to have that in my mind during the conversation. He was drunk (of course) and banging on about “faggots like that guy with long hair.” Mind you, this was 1989 on The Strip. Having long hair was kind of the law. Turned out he meant Boy George. It takes a special person to get so drunk they get hit by a train.

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**Author:** ![Cardinal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardinal/32/4000_2.png) [@Cardinal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cardinal)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2010, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-awful-person-in-entertainment/539309/126 "2010-05-20T14:30:32Z")

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> [@MTCicero](#):
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> Oh, right. I forgot, if you think the silly name thing’s, well, silly, you _just don’t get the hip-hop culture_. Gotcha!

As someone who’s about as unhip to the hop as possible, I’d say that given the prevalence of the practice in the culture, thinking it’s silly may in fact mean that you/I/they don’t get it.

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**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2010, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-awful-person-in-entertainment/539309/127 "2010-05-20T15:45:59Z")

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> [@filling\_pages](#):
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> I have to ask, why Hank III?

Hank III?

What’s wrong with Carrie Underwood?

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**Author:** ![Student\_Driver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3da27b/32.png) [@Student\_Driver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Student_Driver)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2010, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-awful-person-in-entertainment/539309/128 "2010-05-20T16:42:38Z")

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> [@Cardinal](#):
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> I ran into El Duce once […] He was drunk (of course) […].

Pretty much my experience.

I knew of him before I saw him, thanks to an interview in Jim Goad’s _Answer Me!_ zine; luckily, I didn’t have a conversation with him, just watched him stumble through a set. (Mr. Goad’s another one who probably belongs in this thread, though I have to admit enjoying his writing.)

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2010, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-awful-person-in-entertainment/539309/129 "2010-05-20T18:59:55Z")

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I’m still waiting for someone to explain what’s wrong with Miley Cyrus, the only thing i know of her besides her shitty music is that she came out in support of gay marriage after that Miss America debacle last year.

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**Author:** ![control-z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/eada6e/32.png) [@control-z](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/control-z)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2010, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-awful-person-in-entertainment/539309/130 "2010-05-20T19:49:45Z")

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Rosie O’Donnell  
Oprah  
Everyone on The View

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**Author:** ![maplekiwi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a4c791/32.png) [@maplekiwi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/maplekiwi)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2010, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-awful-person-in-entertainment/539309/131 "2010-05-20T21:35:21Z")

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If we are defining awful as an evil & appalling human being then I’ve got to go with **OJ Simpson**

If awful means untalented then I agree with the earlier poster who said the entire cast of **Jersey Shore.**

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**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2010, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-awful-person-in-entertainment/539309/132 "2010-05-20T21:45:31Z")

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Mel Gibson may be gorgeous but he’s also a philandering, anti-Semitic religious fanatic asshole who left the mother of his six children for another woman. I was asked to rate his appeal in a recent online paying survey and completely enjoyed writing down exactly what I think of him.

Jenny McCarthy wouldn’t be quite as annoying if mainstream magazines would finally simply refuse to give her a platform to spew misinformation. If she wants to start her own idiotic website to peddle garbage then let her. But the editorial staff at Time Magazine should have simply ignored her.

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**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2010, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-awful-person-in-entertainment/539309/133 "2010-05-20T23:08:28Z")

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> [@JSexton](#):
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> Andy Dick was my first thought.

I’m so sorry to hear that. He is a loathsome turd.

Gallagher the Melon Smasher should be added to the list.

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**Author:** ![middleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2010, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-awful-person-in-entertainment/539309/134 "2010-05-20T23:44:30Z")

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> [@HelloNinja](#):
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> Wow, all I can say is that people’s definition of “Awful Person” is much different than mine.

Even with the reasonable response that an “awful” meal is not quite up to OJ standards, some of these reasons are pretty petty.

So let me join in as well! 😃

My list:

Limbaugh, O’Reilly, Beck (Glenn Beck, not Beck Beck…he’s awesome!), Hannity, Olberman, Maher, Katrina Vanden Heuvel, and Jon Stewart (that’s right…he’s become a douche).

> [@Nzinga\_Seated](#):
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> For instance, saying at his Oscar acceptance speech (he won over much better hip hop artists, and he won for Summertime, I think) that he doesn’t have to ‘cuss’ in his raps to be successful.

[Nitpick]  
Summertime did not win an **Oscar**.  
[/Nitpick]

Seeing that was like nails on the chalkboard!😉

> [@gaffa](#):
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> Man, not only did he get his ass beat, he got his ass beat by _Jon Lovitz_.

That’s an assbeating you don’t soon forget!

> [@Student\_Driver](#):
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> **Nancy Grace**. Hounds people in ridiculously shrill, biased “interviews” (and is implicated in at least one suicide), jumped on the Duke lacrosse team bash-wagon, and seems to exist only to profit from dead white girls. It’s hard to believe she has a background in law, since she’s so quick to jump to (often incorrect) conclusions about guilt.

She’s a former prosecutor. I know a lot of prosecutors who act the same way! Please add her to my list. She’s ruining the law the way the people I listed ruined politics.

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**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2010, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-awful-person-in-entertainment/539309/135 "2010-05-20T23:51:57Z")

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> [@Sir\_T-Cups](#):
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> Hank III?
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> What’s wrong with Carrie Underwood?

Hank III’s gimmick is that he celebrates debauchery and drug use–and possibly even satanism–in his music. The part of that bothers people the most, however (after all, there are musicians far more invested in those things) is that he sounds more like grandfather then his dad does, so fans of Hank I feel they have a proprietary claim to that sound and should have some say how III uses it. They want him to give them more I, instead of do his own thing. I guess that makes him awful.

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**Author:** ![filling\_pages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b9bd4f/32.png) [@filling\_pages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/filling_pages)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2010, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-awful-person-in-entertainment/539309/136 "2010-05-21T16:28:40Z")

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> [@lissener](#):
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> Hank III’s gimmick is that he celebrates debauchery and drug use–and possibly even satanism–in his music. The part of that bothers people the most, however (after all, there are musicians far more invested in those things) is that he sounds more like grandfather then his dad does, so fans of Hank I feel they have a proprietary claim to that sound and should have some say how III uses it. They want him to give them more I, instead of do his own thing. I guess that makes him awful.

Having seen him play quite a few times over the past 10 years, I’m still curious what kevja’s actual reason for listing him was. I mean, his country shows are packed with old school Hank Sr fans, and they don’t seem to have a problem enjoying his first set and then taking off when he warns them that the metal/punk half is about to start.

For the record, he also performs the longest per show of any other musician I have seen in similar venues. Usually the headliner gives you 45 minutes to an hour, and I’ve seen III do his thing for hours on end. Of course, the drugs could have something to do with that.

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**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2010, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-awful-person-in-entertainment/539309/137 "2010-05-21T16:35:27Z")

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> [@middleman](#):
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> My list:
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> Limbaugh, O’Reilly, Beck (Glenn Beck, not Beck Beck…he’s awesome!), Hannity, Olberman, Maher, Katrina Vanden Heuvel, and Jon Stewart (that’s right…he’s become a douche).

This is a very interesting list to me because you not only have the Republican political people on it (as everyone on this board loves to hate) but you have the equally and even more stupid (Bill Mahr) Democratic ones too.  
Do you just not like overly crazy political people? or all media political people?

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**Author:** ![MTCicero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a4c791/32.png) [@MTCicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MTCicero)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2010, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-awful-person-in-entertainment/539309/138 "2010-05-21T17:47:23Z")

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> [@DigitalC](#):
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> I’m still waiting for someone to explain what’s wrong with Miley Cyrus, the only thing i know of her besides her shitty music is that she came out in support of gay marriage after that Miss America debacle last year.

Well, there’s [this](http://www.disneydreaming.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/miley-cyrus-racist-picture.jpg).

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**Author:** ![middleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2010, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-awful-person-in-entertainment/539309/139 "2010-05-21T19:54:37Z")

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> [@Sir\_T-Cups](#):
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> This is a very interesting list to me because you not only have the Republican political people on it (as everyone on this board loves to hate) but you have the equally and even more stupid (Bill Mahr) Democratic ones too.  
> Do you just not like overly crazy political people? or all media political people?

I despise people who make their listerners/viewers so irate (on a daily basis) that they make it impossible to govern this unweildy behemoth known as the U.S. Some things are just not that big a deal, but these asshats have to fill their daily air time. Thus, they fan the flames that make compromise all but impossible.

Both the left and right are equally guilty. I was drawing blank on the lefties, but thought of two more: bloggers Markos Moulitsas and Arrianna Huffington (ok…so I’d still plow her…my peep cares not about the union!). Bloggers are just as bad as the talk radio people.

Ruining the nation!

[sub]I am a moderate to conservative guy who votes mostly Democratic these days, just for point of reference. [/sub]

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**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2010, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-awful-person-in-entertainment/539309/140 "2010-05-21T20:00:34Z")

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> [@middleman](#):
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> [Nitpick]  
> Summertime did not win an **Oscar**.  
> [/Nitpick]
> 
> Seeing that was like nails on the chalkboard!😉

Ah. Thanks. I stand corrected. What did he win for? He actually had a couple good songs back in the beginning of his career, thanks to the great skills of Jazzy Jeff. Whatever he won for, he’s still a damn cornball.

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