# The Most Disgusting Works Ever Written
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-disgusting-works-ever-written/557204
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion
**Created:** [October 15, 2010, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-disgusting-works-ever-written/557204 "2010-10-15T01:44:51Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)
#### Post date: [October 15, 2010, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-disgusting-works-ever-written/557204/1 "2010-10-15T01:44:51Z")
What books, or manuscripts do you think are the most disgusting and depraved ever written?
While I thankfully haven’t read Marquis de Sade, even Wikipedia’s descriptions make me ill. His work isn’t just vulgar or obscene but sadistic, inhuman, and graphic to the point of making it parodic and comedic (ie like _Itchy and Scratchy_’s gratutious violence) if de Sade wasn’t being serious. Hell, even Agent Trower’s favourite novel _Hogg_ probably is only tenth as perverted and depraved as de Sade’s mildest works. It is unfortunate that this man was not purged from the Earth for he was an utter moral corruption to humanity. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marquis\_de\_Sade\_bibliography](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marquis_de_Sade_bibliography)
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### Author:  [@statsman1982](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/statsman1982)
#### Post date: [October 15, 2010, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-disgusting-works-ever-written/557204/2 "2010-10-15T02:11:01Z")
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> It is unfortunate that this man was not purged from the Earth for he was an utter moral corruption to humanity
Pretty disgusting to me.
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### Author:  [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)
#### Post date: [October 15, 2010, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-disgusting-works-ever-written/557204/3 "2010-10-15T02:20:47Z")
The Bible
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### Author:  [@Blut\_Aus\_Nord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blut_Aus_Nord)
#### Post date: [October 15, 2010, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-disgusting-works-ever-written/557204/4 "2010-10-15T02:30:30Z")
[Vomit some more.](http://www.amazon.com/Allergy-Free-Desserts-Gluten-free-Dairy-free-Egg-free/dp/0470448466)
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### Author:  [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)
#### Post date: [October 15, 2010, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-disgusting-works-ever-written/557204/5 "2010-10-15T02:36:53Z")
Marquis de Sade is kinda bad. I tried to read something of his… _Justine_. There are a lot of _Justine_ copycats on the internet though if you search a catalog of online erotica. For some people I guess that stuff really does it for them.
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Pretty disgusting to me.
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I understand your point, but there’s evidence the Marquis _actually_ raped and tortured people. It makes reading his stuff even creepier.
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### Author:  [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)
#### Post date: [October 15, 2010, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-disgusting-works-ever-written/557204/6 "2010-10-15T02:42:36Z")
[This one](http://www.amazon.com/Audacity-Hope-Thoughts-Reclaiming-American/dp/0307455874/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1287110490&sr=1-1) is fairly disgusting.
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### Author:  [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)
#### Post date: [October 15, 2010, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-disgusting-works-ever-written/557204/7 "2010-10-15T02:46:23Z")
How about Chuck Pahalniuk’s ''[Guts](http://forum.ebaumsworld.com/showthread.php?t=196507)"?
I absolutely love this story, by the way. But nobody can dispute it’s disgusting.
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### Author:  [@NDP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NDP)
#### Post date: [October 15, 2010, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-disgusting-works-ever-written/557204/8 "2010-10-15T02:49:45Z")
> [@Chakra Nadmara](#):
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> [Vomit some more.](http://www.amazon.com/Allergy-Free-Desserts-Gluten-free-Dairy-free-Egg-free/dp/0470448466)
Why? There are people like me who are allergic to eggs and nuts who might like to find out about alternative recipes are available.
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### Author:  [@Rysdad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysdad)
#### Post date: [October 15, 2010, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-disgusting-works-ever-written/557204/9 "2010-10-15T02:58:12Z")
Some people might find either of Tucker Max’s book pretty disgusting.
But some parts are damned funny.
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### Author:  [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)
#### Post date: [October 15, 2010, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-disgusting-works-ever-written/557204/10 "2010-10-15T02:58:56Z")
> [@NDP](#):
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> > [@Chakra Nadmara](#):
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> > [Vomit some more.](http://www.amazon.com/Allergy-Free-Desserts-Gluten-free-Dairy-free-Egg-free/dp/0470448466)
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> Why? There are people like me who are allergic to eggs and nuts who might like to find out about alternative recipes are available.
Seconded. My husband has a gazillion allergies and he’s probably allergic to most of the things in that book. It’s really hard to find desserts he can eat and you gotta feel pity for someone who can’t even have chocolate.
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### Author:  [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)
#### Post date: [October 15, 2010, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-disgusting-works-ever-written/557204/11 "2010-10-15T03:07:01Z")
> [@AClockworkMelon](#):
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> The Bible
My first thought.
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### Author:  [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)
#### Post date: [October 15, 2010, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-disgusting-works-ever-written/557204/12 "2010-10-15T03:32:11Z")
> [@statsman1982](#):
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> > It is unfortunate that this man was not purged from the Earth for he was an utter moral corruption to humanity
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> Pretty disgusting to me.
So if I advocate the execution of one of the evilest men in history I’m evil?
> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> > The Bible
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> My first thought.
Some choice quotes from each:
“Thou shalt not murder”
“Love your enemies”
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> The story does portray some black humor, and Sade seems almost lighthearted in his introduction, referring to the reader as “friend reader”. In this introduction he contradicts himself, at one point insisting that one should not be horrified by the 600 passions outlined in the story because everybody has their own tastes, but at the same time going out of his way to warn the reader of the horrors that lay ahead, suggesting that the reader should have doubts about continuing. Consequently he glorifies as well as vilifies the four main protagonists, alternately declaring them freethinking heroes and debased villains, often in the same breath.
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> # November; the simple passions – these anecdotes are the only ones written in detail. They are only considered ‘simple’ in terms of them not including actual sexual penetration. The anecdotes include men who like to masturbate in the faces of seven-year-old girls, and indulge in urine drinking and coprophagia. As they do throughout the story-telling sections, the four libertines – Blangis, the Bishop, Curval and Durcet – indulge in activities similar to those they’ve heard with the kidnapped children and their daughters.
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> # December; the complex passions – these anecdotes involve more extravagant perversions, such as men who vaginally rape female children, indulge in incest and flagellation. Tales of men who indulge in sacrilegious activities are also recounted, such as a man who enjoyed having sex with nuns whilst watching Mass being performed. The female children are deflowered vaginally during the evening orgies with other elements of that month’s stories – such as whipping – occasionally thrown in.
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> # January; the criminal passions – tales are told of perverts who indulge in criminal activities, albeit stopping short of murder. They include men who sodomize girls as young as three, men who prostitute their own daughters to other perverts and watch the proceedings, and others who mutilate women by tearing off fingers or burning them with red-hot pokers. During the month, the four libertines begin having anal sex with the sixteen male and female children, and these children, and the other victims, are treated more brutally as time goes on, with regular beatings and whippings.
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> # February; the murderous passions – the final 150 anecdotes are those involving murder. They include perverts who skin children alive, disembowel pregnant women, burn alive entire families and kill newborn babies in front of their mothers. The final tale is the only one since the simple passions of November written in detail. It features the ‘Hell Libertine’ who masturbates whilst watching fifteen teenage girls being simultaneously tortured to death. During this month, the libertines brutally kill three of the four daughters they have between them, along with four of the female children and two of the male ones. The murder of one of the girls, 15-year-old Augustine, is described in great detail, with the tortures she is subjected to including having flesh stripped from her limbs, her vagina being mutilated and her intestines being pulled out of her sliced-open belly and burned.
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### Author:  [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)
#### Post date: [October 15, 2010, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-disgusting-works-ever-written/557204/13 "2010-10-15T03:33:58Z")
I never really thought that the Marquis de Sade was all that disturbing. I read some of his stuff back in undergrad and was actually kind of surprised by how un-shocked I was by it.
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### Author:  [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)
#### Post date: [October 15, 2010, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-disgusting-works-ever-written/557204/14 "2010-10-15T03:41:35Z")
_Mein Kampf_
The _Twilight_ saga.
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### Author:  [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)
#### Post date: [October 15, 2010, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-disgusting-works-ever-written/557204/15 "2010-10-15T03:46:08Z")
> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#):
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> So if I advocate the execution of one of the evilest men in history I’m evil?
[Take a look at his life](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marquis_de_Sade). Most of what I’m reading is pretty pedestrian by “evil” standards - blasphemy, affairs, seductions (attempted or successful), “mistreatment” of several prostitutes (whatever that means), abduction and abuse of a prostitute, and sexual mistreatment of some servants, who ran away.
No mass imprisonments of nubile youths and grandiose experiments of decadent filth. No mass murders. He was not a good man by any means, but we’ve had criminals rot in prisons, names forgotten by all, who’ve done worse.
But no, you condemned him for his writings, and wanted him wiped from the earth for that. Despising someone that much for some S&M novels is a bit much.
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### Author:  [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)
#### Post date: [October 15, 2010, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-disgusting-works-ever-written/557204/16 "2010-10-15T03:52:06Z")
> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#):
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> Some choice quotes from each:
Here are some more choice quotes.
“Work shall be done for six days, but the seventh day shall be a holy day for you, a Sabbath of rest to the LORD. **Whoever does any work on it shall be put to death.** ”
Exodus 35:2
“ **But keep alive for yourselves all the young girls who have not known a man intimately.** ”
Numbers 31: 18
“If a young woman who is a virgin is betrothed to a husband, and a man finds her in the city and lies with her, then you shall bring them both out to the gate of that city, **and you shall stone them to death with stones, the young woman because she did not cry out in the city** , and the man because he humbled his neighbor’s wife; so you shall put away the evil from among you."
Deuteronomy 22:23-24
“ **If a man lies with a male as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination. They shall surely be put to death.** Their blood shall be upon them.”
Leviticus 20:13
"Let your women keep silent in the churches, for they are not permitted to speak; but **they are to be submissive** , as the law also says. And if they want to learn something, let them ask their own husbands at home; **for it is shameful for women to speak in church.**"
1 Corinthians 14:34-35
This book promotes murder, rape, slavery, racism, sexism, genocide, etc and there are many millions of people who claim to use it as their source of morality. It is the most disgusting work ever written beyond any reasonable doubt.
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### Author:  [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)
#### Post date: [October 15, 2010, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-disgusting-works-ever-written/557204/17 "2010-10-15T04:01:50Z")
> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#):
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> What books, or manuscripts do you think are the most disgusting and depraved ever written?
Wait a minute. The last time someone recommended something “disgusting and depraved” to the OP, he was practically run off the SDMB on a rail. I think discretion is best in this matter.
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### Author:  [@statsman1982](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/statsman1982)
#### Post date: [October 15, 2010, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-disgusting-works-ever-written/557204/18 "2010-10-15T04:03:18Z")
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> So if I advocate the execution of one of the evilest men in history I’m evil?
No, but once you (or anyone) starts wanting to put on the “Arbiter of All That’s Good and Holy to Read” hat, I get nervous. Your thread title led me to believe that you wanted to talk about disgusting written works. I agree; de Sade’s stuff is majorly sick shit. But wanting to kill him for it comes dangerously close to suggesting we punish people for thought crimes, and I just can’t get behind that.
As a person, irrespective of anything he’s written, I don’t know much about de Sade. **Olives** mentioned that he really did rape and kill people. So if we’re going to argue whether he should have been killed at birth, let’s argue that and not bring written works into it. In sum, it seems you want to follow this implication chain:
disgusting writing ==\> disgusting person ==\>person should be killed
Take the [Aristocrats joke](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Aristocrats_%28joke%29). I just watched a clip on YouTube of Bob Saget doing telling it. The point of the joke is to come up with the most sick, sadistic, morally reprehensible, and outrageous things humans can do to each other in the context of a family putting on a show for a talent agent. The punchline of the joke isn’t what makes it funny; its how outrageous and twisted the scenario described by the comedian is. There is nothing sacred, and it even makes me wince when I watch some of the other versions told by, e.g., Gilbert Gottfried.
Now, since Bob Saget and Gilbert Gottfried came up with all of this twisted stuff, does that make them bad people? Should we eliminate them because of some sick stuff they wrote (or, said, in this case)? That’s what I thought you were getting at in your first post, and that’s what I’m objecting to.
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### Author:  [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)
#### Post date: [October 15, 2010, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-disgusting-works-ever-written/557204/19 "2010-10-15T04:10:54Z")
Let’s hope **Qin** (no offense, but it’s going to take awhile for me not to think of you as **Curtis**!) never reads _A Modest Proposal_!
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### Author:  [@statsman1982](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/statsman1982)
#### Post date: [October 15, 2010, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-disgusting-works-ever-written/557204/20 "2010-10-15T04:15:12Z")
Holy shit, that’s **Curtis**? When did this happen?
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