# The Most Disgusting Works Ever Written **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [October 15, 2010, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-disgusting-works-ever-written/557204 "2010-10-15T01:44:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2010, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-disgusting-works-ever-written/557204/61 "2010-10-15T19:11:08Z")
> [@MsWhatsit](#): > > Some brief Googling suggests that the toddler rape is likely in 120 Days of Sodom. > > Also, thanks to the SDMB, my recent Google searches list is completely awesome. Let’s see, we’ve got “de Sade toddler rape,” “dan savage death grip” (that was for the masturbation thread), and most awesome, “masturbating underwater in a pool while the pump/filter suction thing was on his anus.” > > Anyway. Carry on. > > Edit: This thread is the #1 search result for “de Sade toddler rape.” There’s toddler rape in there, as well as a staggering amount of coprophagia. Admittedly any amount of coprophagia is enough to dismay me, but still … ---
**Author:** ![MN\_Maenad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e95f7d/32.png) [@MN\_Maenad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MN_Maenad)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2010, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-disgusting-works-ever-written/557204/62 "2010-10-15T20:01:35Z")
It’s good to read disgusting works now and again. They challenge you, make you think. That being said, I stopped reading Justine about 1/3 of the way through. It gets boring and repetitive, and you start saying, “Yes, Donatien, you are _so shocking_.” :rolleyes: I’d be very careful about flinging those stones around, about how awful someone must be to have thoughts like that. Otherwise, when you have a bad thought or two, you’re going to freak out. de Sade (as a person) was far from normal, but a lot of pretty normal people write some shocking things. ---
**Author:** ![SpartanDC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b2d939/32.png) [@SpartanDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SpartanDC)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2010, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-disgusting-works-ever-written/557204/63 "2010-10-15T20:38:10Z")
> [@Fried\_Dough\_Ho](#): > > > [@AClockworkMelon](#): > > > > Wow. > > > > Now _that_’s a movie! > > I haven’t been around this forum long enough to know what topics may or may not be discussed, but this _is_ a fairly powerful film which is an allegory to an indictment of the Serbian government. Its just that most people can’t beyond the horrific violence (justifiably so). Sort of like how The Passion of The Christ could have been a loving portrayal of The Son of God giving up his life so that our sins might be forgiven (if you believe in that sort of thing). Instead, in the hands of Mel Gibson, all anyone can remember is seeing Jesus’ flesh get ripped off and a crow pecking at his eyeball. ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2010, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-disgusting-works-ever-written/557204/64 "2010-10-15T21:36:33Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > > [@Quartz](#): > > > > Don’t; you’re too young. Both legally and physically. Seriously. You’re 15 now, yes? You’re most unlikely to have yet developed the maturity to deal with such stuff. > > 1. He was at least 13 when he signed up over a year ago. That makes him at least 14 n. ---
**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2010, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-disgusting-works-ever-written/557204/65 "2010-10-16T00:55:32Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > This thread sounds like a thinly veiled attempt to acquire a reading list without admitting that he’s tittilated by this sort of thing. It’s sort of like “porn is evil: can anybody recommend some websites?” I won’t deny that I am morbidly fascinated by de Sade but I can’t see any normal person being “aroused” by it since almost all the sex is perverted . > [@MN\_Maenad](#): > > It’s good to read disgusting works now and again. They challenge you, make you think. That being said, I stopped reading Justine about 1/3 of the way through. It gets boring and repetitive, and you start saying, “Yes, Donatien, you are _so shocking_.” :rolleyes: > > I’d be very careful about flinging those stones around, about how awful someone must be to have thoughts like that. Otherwise, when you have a bad thought or two, you’re going to freak out. de Sade (as a person) was far from normal, but a lot of pretty normal people write some shocking things. He wrote literally thousands of pages of reptititive mixture of violent sex, torture, and murder. Indeed some works like _120 Days of Sodom_ seems to be almost a catalogue of perversions then a real novel. ---
**Author:** ![Napier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ce73a5/32.png) [@Napier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Napier)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2010, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-disgusting-works-ever-written/557204/66 "2010-10-16T01:02:05Z")
I found a copy of Justine and read it cover to cover at the age of about ten. It was vivid in ways my other reading had not been, but I wouldn’t say it was upsetting. I didn’t come across 120 Days of Sodom until my late teens, but don’t regard it as being difficult to take either. Some find The Story of O to be pretty far out there, but it was really pretty tame. I think these things all offer useful views helping one understand the range of human behavior and interest. I actually feel creepier reading evangelical Christian material. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2010, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-disgusting-works-ever-written/557204/67 "2010-10-16T01:05:32Z")
> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#): > > I won’t deny that I am morbidly fascinated by de Sade but I can’t see any normal person being “aroused” by it since almost all the sex is perverted . > > He wrote literally thousands of pages of reptititive mixture of violent sex, torture, and murder. Indeed some works like _120 Days of Sodom_ seems to be almost a catalogue of perversions then a real novel. Look [del] **Curtis** [/del] **Qin** , in the OP you have thankfully never read de Sade, and now only 63 posts later, you’re an expert on his work? ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2010, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-disgusting-works-ever-written/557204/68 "2010-10-16T01:32:32Z")
> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#): > > > [@Chefguy](#): > > > > This thread sounds like a thinly veiled attempt to acquire a reading list without admitting that he’s tittilated by this sort of thing. It’s sort of like “porn is evil: can anybody recommend some websites?” > > I won’t deny that I am morbidly fascinated by de Sade but I can’t see any normal person being “aroused” by it since almost all the sex is perverted . > > > [@MN\_Maenad](#): > > > > It’s good to read disgusting works now and again. They challenge you, make you think. That being said, I stopped reading Justine about 1/3 of the way through. It gets boring and repetitive, and you start saying, “Yes, Donatien, you are _so shocking_.” :rolleyes: > > > > I’d be very careful about flinging those stones around, about how awful someone must be to have thoughts like that. Otherwise, when you have a bad thought or two, you’re going to freak out. de Sade (as a person) was far from normal, but a lot of pretty normal people write some shocking things. > > He wrote literally thousands of pages of reptititive mixture of violent sex, torture, and murder. Indeed some works like _120 Days of Sodom_ seems to be almost a catalogue of perversions then a real novel. Define “perverted”. If it’s consensual, then perverted is not an apt description. ---
**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2010, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-disgusting-works-ever-written/557204/69 "2010-10-16T01:42:01Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > > [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#): > > > > I won’t deny that I am morbidly fascinated by de Sade but I can’t see any normal person being “aroused” by it since almost all the sex is perverted . > > > > He wrote literally thousands of pages of reptititive mixture of violent sex, torture, and murder. Indeed some works like _120 Days of Sodom_ seems to be almost a catalogue of perversions then a real novel. > > Define “perverted”. If it’s consensual, then perverted is not an apt description. Umm almost all the sex is inflicted on kidnapped children. Hardly consensual. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2010, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-disgusting-works-ever-written/557204/70 "2010-10-16T01:47:02Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > Define “perverted”. If it’s consensual, then perverted is not an apt description. Not even consensual cannibalism? I’d say that something isn’t “perverted” unless and until it become self destructive. Arranging to have yourself eaten because it gives you a thrill? That’s perverted. And I wouldn’t call rape perverted; I’d call it evil. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2010, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-disgusting-works-ever-written/557204/71 "2010-10-16T01:50:31Z")
> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#): > > Umm almost all the sex is inflicted on kidnapped children. Hardly consensual. Huh. Never read de Sade, you say? ---
**Author:** ![China\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@China\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/China_Guy)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2010, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-disgusting-works-ever-written/557204/72 "2010-10-16T02:18:58Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > 1. > > _The Rape of Nanking_ Too bad Iris Chang chose to do a National Enquirer version of what happend. The Rape of Nanking was sufficiently awful that it didn’t need an exagerated sensationalized write up that allows deniers in Japan to point out the obvious historical errors and claim nothing happened. Iris also later blew her brains out. [Wiki’stake](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iris_Chang). BTW, I took my mother to the Nanjing memorial site, which is built on a partly excavated mass grave, is full of graphic photo’s and is a pre.tty horrific experience. ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2010, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-disgusting-works-ever-written/557204/73 "2010-10-16T02:20:16Z")
> [@Freudian\_Slit](#): > > > [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > > > Are you sure you actually read the worst of it? Because some of it is fairly mundane S&M stuff, not that shocking, but his most depraved stuff is so extreme and so far beyind the pale that if it doesn’t shock you, I can’t imagine what would. I mean if the rape, torture and murders of toddlers isn’t shocking then what the hell is? > > {written before I read the above post} > > Hmm, maybe I didn’t get into the stuff that was really depraved. I read Justine (the Misfortunes of Virtue) and parts of Philosophy in the Bedroom. De Sade. Maybe I never read enough of him to be so thoroughly disgusted. I only made it half way through ‘The Philosophy of the Bedroom’, but it seemed like Penthouse Forum 300 years before its time to me. Granted, it had a nasty and grisly end, but damned if parts of it weren’t just discovery of straight, gay, and group sex along with some piercing and BDSM towards the end. Hell, someday I fully expect it to be done line-for-line on Showtime. ---
**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2010, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-disgusting-works-ever-written/557204/74 "2010-10-16T02:22:58Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > > [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#): > > > > Umm almost all the sex is inflicted on kidnapped children. Hardly consensual. > > Huh. Never read de Sade, you say? Wikipedia graphically explains the story main plotlines. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2010, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-disgusting-works-ever-written/557204/75 "2010-10-16T02:45:24Z")
> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#): > > > [@Frank](#): > > > > Huh. Never read de Sade, you say? > > Wikipedia graphically explains the story main plotlines. And this makes you an expert? How can you make such a judgment, and say it should be banned, and that the man is evil in carnate, when YOU’VE NEVER EVEN READ THE MATERIAL IN THE FIRST PLACE!!! ---
**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2010, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-disgusting-works-ever-written/557204/76 "2010-10-16T02:49:36Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > How can you make such a judgment, and say it should be banned, and that the man is evil in carnate, when YOU’VE NEVER EVEN READ THE MATERIAL IN THE FIRST PLACE!!! Isn’t that how most book-banners operate? ---
**Author:** ![cormac262](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f14d63/32.png) [@cormac262](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cormac262)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2010, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-disgusting-works-ever-written/557204/77 "2010-10-16T02:56:30Z")
> [@Infovore](#): > > > [@MsWhatsit](#): > > > > [Guts, by Chuck Palahniuk.](http://chuckpalahniuk.net/features/shorts/guts) You’re welcome. > > The worst thing about “Guts” was that it was based on a [true story](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Abigail_Taylor)–that happened to a little girl. > > BTW, Chuck’s story “Hot Potting” is pretty disgusting too. I’ve only read Palahniuk’s “Haunted” (which I nominate for most disgusting). How does it compare with these ? ---
**Author:** ![EmAnJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d2c977/32.png) [@EmAnJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EmAnJ)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2010, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-disgusting-works-ever-written/557204/78 "2010-10-16T03:07:51Z")
This might be the thread for figuring out what this book was called that I read about 10 years ago. It was written by a man on death row in the US and published after his execution. It was essentially his confession. I remember that he had killed his cousin (or niece?) and her friend after raping them, and stuffed the bodies in a hot water tank (I think). In another rape and murder, he raped and killed a toddler and it’s mother. I vividly remember one murder where he cut her nipples off and stuffed them in her mouth while she was still alive. I think some of the women’s bodies were dropped in to some sort of marshy area. Anyone know this book? ---
**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2010, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-disgusting-works-ever-written/557204/79 "2010-10-16T03:15:38Z")
> [@EmAnJ](#): > > This might be the thread for figuring out what this book was called that I read about 10 years ago. > > It was written by a man on death row in the US and published after his execution. It was essentially his confession. I remember that he had killed his cousin (or niece?) and her friend after raping them, and stuffed the bodies in a hot water tank (I think). In another rape and murder, he raped and killed a toddler and it’s mother. I vividly remember one murder where he cut her nipples off and stuffed them in her mouth while she was still alive. I think some of the women’s bodies were dropped in to some sort of marshy area. > > Anyone know this book? One of my favorite Dr Seuss books has a similar plot. ---
**Author:** ![Manduck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/manduck/32/256_2.png) [@Manduck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Manduck)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2010, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-disgusting-works-ever-written/557204/80 "2010-10-16T03:25:34Z")
> [@EmAnJ](#): > > This might be the thread for figuring out what this book was called that I read about 10 years ago. > > It was written by a man on death row in the US and published after his execution. It was essentially his confession. I remember that he had killed his cousin (or niece?) and her friend after raping them, and stuffed the bodies in a hot water tank (I think). In another rape and murder, he raped and killed a toddler and it’s mother. I vividly remember one murder where he cut her nipples off and stuffed them in her mouth while she was still alive. I think some of the women’s bodies were dropped in to some sort of marshy area. > > Anyone know this book? I was wondering what had happened to my diary. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-disgusting-works-ever-written/557204.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-disgusting-works-ever-written/557204.md?page=5)