# The most fucked-up movie ostensibly aimed at children **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 9, 2009, 11:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-fucked-up-movie-ostensibly-aimed-at-children/505827 "2009-08-09T11:42:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2011, 7:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-fucked-up-movie-ostensibly-aimed-at-children/505827/181 "2011-02-22T07:55:24Z")
> [@Koxinga](#): > > I’m having trouble following this zombie thread. Could you tell me, who is John Galt? 😕 A character in an Ayn Rand novel, Atlas Shrugged. Since I’ve never managed to finish reading anything by her, I’m afraid I can’t say more. Wiki no doubt has a page on him, though. ---
**Author:** ![TravisFromOR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cc9497/32.png) [@TravisFromOR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TravisFromOR)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2011, 7:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-fucked-up-movie-ostensibly-aimed-at-children/505827/182 "2011-02-22T07:58:44Z")
> [@elfkin477](#): > > A character in an Ayn Rand novel, Atlas Shrugged. Since I’ve never managed to finish reading anything by her, I’m afraid I can’t say more. Wiki no doubt has a page on him, though. “Who is John Galt” is the common theme throughout Atlas Shrugged. I think the previous poster was making a joke. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2011, 8:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-fucked-up-movie-ostensibly-aimed-at-children/505827/183 "2011-02-22T08:12:11Z")
> [@TravisFromOR](#): > > “Who is John Galt” is the common theme throughout Atlas Shrugged. I think the previous poster was making a joke. 😃 Ah. Better a joke than a multi-part movie. ---
**Author:** ![Koxinga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/4af34b/32.png) [@Koxinga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Koxinga)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2011, 8:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-fucked-up-movie-ostensibly-aimed-at-children/505827/184 "2011-02-22T08:49:57Z")
> [@elfkin477](#): > > Ah. Better a joke than a multi-part movie. :shrug: ---
**Author:** ![tim314](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim314/32/3468_2.png) [@tim314](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tim314)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2011, 9:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-fucked-up-movie-ostensibly-aimed-at-children/505827/185 "2011-02-22T09:54:50Z")
> [@SmashTheState](#): > > _The Incredibles_. It’s about as offensive a piece of work as I’ve ever seen, on par with _The Triumph of the Will_ or _Birth of a Nation_. The “villain” wants to give everyone superpowers because… “If everyone is special, then NO ONE is special!” Cue evil laughter and dramatic music. Apparently empowering ordinary people is wrong and bad, and we should all sit and worship John Galt – excuse me, I mean Mr. Incredible – because he is so much greater and more noble than we mere peons. And if anyone wants to make you as strong as Mr. Incredible, then he is evil and you must destroy him. > > The most offensive part of all of this is that it’s shovelled down the throats of children and candy-coated for easy consumption. He also murders people and unleashes a killer robot on the city just so he can get the glory of stopping it. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2011, 10:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-fucked-up-movie-ostensibly-aimed-at-children/505827/186 "2011-02-22T10:26:36Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > I realized a couple of days ago that **Charlie and the Chocolate Factory** is just a kiddie version of the Saw franchise. _Oompa loompa doopity doo I’ve got another deathtrap for you_ I’m sure this is already linked somewhere in the thread but I’m too lazy to check: [Animated Films to Traumatize Your Kids With](http://www.cracked.com/article_15070_the-10-best-animated-movies-traumatizing-kids.html). ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2011, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-fucked-up-movie-ostensibly-aimed-at-children/505827/187 "2011-02-22T12:50:26Z")
I haven’t seen it myself, but from all accounts **The Nutcracker in 3D** clearly belongs in this thread (it came out since the thread originally appeared. or it wouldv’e been in its original incarnation). It still has a 0% rating on Rotten Tomatoes, which is worse than _Battlefield Earth_ > **[The Nutcracker](https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the_nutcracker_2010)** > > Christmas in Vienna is a dull affair for 9-year-old Mary (Elle Fanning), until her beloved Uncle Albert (Nathan Lane) arrives and gives her a special gift: an enchanted nutcracker. On Christmas night the nutcracker -- named NC -- comes to life and... > **[The Nutcracker in 3D](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nutcracker_in_3D)** > > The Nutcracker in 3D (also released The Nutcracker: The Untold Story) is a 2010 3D Christmas musical fantasy film adapted from Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky’s 1892 ballet The Nutcracker. Directed, co-written and produced by Andrei Konchalovsky, the film stars Elle Fanning, Nathan Lane, John Turturro, Frances de la Tour, Richard E. Grant and Yulia Vysotskaya, with Charlie Rowe and Shirley Henderson as the Nutcracker. Set in 1920s Vienna, the plot follows a young girl who receives a magical doll that... ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2011, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-fucked-up-movie-ostensibly-aimed-at-children/505827/188 "2011-02-22T14:43:59Z")
I think you guys are seriously underestimating children. The Looney Tunes are aimed at a group far too young for sexual thoughts, but when Bugs or Elmer morph into a wolf, whistle and their heart starts pounding out of their chest at a shapely woman even a 6 year old knows enough to follow along. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2011, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-fucked-up-movie-ostensibly-aimed-at-children/505827/189 "2011-02-22T16:35:42Z")
> [@Sitnam](#): > > I think you guys are seriously underestimating children. The Looney Tunes are aimed at a group far too young for sexual thoughts… \*Psssst… \*the intended audience for Looney Toons shorts was adult theatre-goers. ---
**Author:** ![Apollyon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/apollyon/32/4238_2.png) [@Apollyon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Apollyon)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2011, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-fucked-up-movie-ostensibly-aimed-at-children/505827/190 "2011-02-23T01:04:37Z")
> [@spark240](#): > > _Ninja Scroll_ and _Grave of the Fireflies_ (among many examples) are not aimed at children. Animation =/= children’s movies. Perhaps worth noting however that _Grave of the Fireflies_ was originally released in Japan as half of a double feature; partnered with _My Neighbour Totoro_. There were apparently more than a few upset parents. :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2011, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-fucked-up-movie-ostensibly-aimed-at-children/505827/191 "2011-02-23T02:57:25Z")
> [@Lamia](#): > > Well, it was rated PG, which should have let parents know that it wasn’t intended for very young children. But _Coraline_, like several other movies named in this thread, struck me as the type of movie that’s far more disturbing for adults than it would be for kids. I think as a kid I would have just accepted that there was a monster in the movie who made herself look like the mothers of children in order to trick them. That’s scary, but not unusually or traumatically so. The Other Mother wants to pluck out her eyes and replace them with sewn buttons. Kid or adult, that’s pretty high on the fucked up scale. ---
**Author:** ![gregorio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/fbc32d/32.png) [@gregorio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gregorio)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2011, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-fucked-up-movie-ostensibly-aimed-at-children/505827/192 "2011-02-23T16:50:08Z")
> [@Maiira](#): > > _Paprika_, for example, was rated R here in the states, and I don’t really have any reason to believe that it was aimed at children in Japan. Why was Paprika rated R? Spoilers kind of for a five year old movie. There was a not very graphic depiction and subsequent investigation of a years old murder. Was there an actual murder or was it metaphorical? I can’t remember. There was crazy dream imagery. There was Atsuko’s secret identity. There was crazy octo-boss. Were there actual deaths during the dream parade and the wackyness that accompanied it? Ahhh, there was the cartoon, giant, non-nudity nudity. I think I asked my daughters where her nipples were. They were all like, :rolleyes: Paprika was rated R? It’s one of the favourites around here. If we’re waiting to start a movie or for someone we watch the opening sequence. **It’s a SHOWTIME!** ---
**Author:** ![constanze](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@constanze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/constanze)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2011, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-fucked-up-movie-ostensibly-aimed-at-children/505827/193 "2011-02-23T17:18:38Z")
I remember that _Billy Elliot_ is rated R solely because of the language. Nothing else. It’s a kid movie, and the swearing is of course compleltly natural and approriate for the time period and society class portrayed, but no, kids could be damaged by hearing a fuck. (Although that’s a counter example). ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Q](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/898d66/32.png) [@Johnny\_Q](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Q)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2011, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-fucked-up-movie-ostensibly-aimed-at-children/505827/194 "2011-02-23T21:17:12Z")
> [@bump](#): > > I kind of took that part as more of a sideways “Harrison Bergeron” idea- instead of handicapping everyone, Syndrome would augment everyone. > > In the end, the results are the same. Then again, if everybody has superpowers, I guess people would attach value to more mundane but useful skills. Repairing bicycles, for example. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2011, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-fucked-up-movie-ostensibly-aimed-at-children/505827/195 "2011-02-23T21:40:48Z")
> [@constanze](#): > > I remember that _Billy Elliot_ is rated R solely because of the language. Nothing else. It’s a kid movie, and the swearing is of course compleltly natural and approriate for the time period and society class portrayed, but no, kids could be damaged by hearing a fuck. (Although that’s a counter example). PG13 > **[Billy Elliot (2000) ⭐ 7.7 | Drama, Music](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0249462/)** > > 1h 50m | R ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2011, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-fucked-up-movie-ostensibly-aimed-at-children/505827/196 "2011-02-23T22:17:37Z")
> [@Argent\_Towers](#): > > I don’t want to be a pisser but I think if the sociopolitical messages of The Incredibles are worthy of a discussion or debate, it belongs in its own thread. It’s like what happens whenever Joss Whedon’s work is brought up in a thread, the thread instantly becomes a Joss Whedon thread. Well, now that you mention it … Joss Wheedon’s stuff is suitable for children. But teens and young adults … no way! ---
**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2011, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-fucked-up-movie-ostensibly-aimed-at-children/505827/197 "2011-02-23T22:20:18Z")
No one has mentioned [The Adventures of Mark Twain](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088678/) yet, although it often features in lists of scary kids movies. It’s a fun claymation movie, but there’s a depressing and rather creepy segment based on Twain’s unfinished story “The Mysterious Stranger”. ---
**Author:** ![Koxinga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/4af34b/32.png) [@Koxinga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Koxinga)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2011, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-fucked-up-movie-ostensibly-aimed-at-children/505827/198 "2011-02-23T22:21:28Z")
> [@Johnny\_Q](#): > > Then again, if everybody has superpowers, I guess people would attach value to more mundane but useful skills. Repairing bicycles, for example. You mean like [this](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eCdIe0wdvU)? ---
**Author:** ![Lasciel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e79b87/32.png) [@Lasciel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lasciel)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2011, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-fucked-up-movie-ostensibly-aimed-at-children/505827/199 "2011-02-23T23:15:24Z")
Not precisely aimed at children, but _Who Framed Roger Rabbit_ was a little high on my personal creep-o-meter. I had severe troubles watching _Back to the Future_ later in life because of that damn character. It really made it difficult to like the Doc. He only killed ONE of the pair of shoes!!! They were married, or twins, and he tortured and killed one in front of the other one! ACK! :eek: My little kiddy brains weren’t up for that. Also, my parents really shouldn’t have let me go to a sleepover at my friend’s house on the night she was watching _Little Shop of Horrors_ with her parents. (I was 6, and it was my first sleepover…) I ended up climbing out a window around 1 am and walking home because I was too creeped out to stay at their house. In totally unrelated methods of not being aimed at children, the entire opening sequence of \*Up \*was interesting in a sociological sort of way. Through my own misted vision, I watched the entire over-25 audience contingent dissolve into tears, while the kids were bored out of their minds wondering when the actual movie was going to get moving. (is it just me, or are there lots of zombies these days?) ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2011, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-fucked-up-movie-ostensibly-aimed-at-children/505827/200 "2011-02-23T23:17:54Z")
There are a lot of zombies nowadays. Typical response is to blame Google. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-fucked-up-movie-ostensibly-aimed-at-children/505827.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-fucked-up-movie-ostensibly-aimed-at-children/505827.md?page=11)