# The Most Iconic Domestically-Created Character for Each Country

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Merlin’s definitely not right for Britain. You would say that “Merlin is a character in the Arthur stories”, but you would never say that “Arthur is a character in the Merlin stories”. And you can have a story about Arthur without Merlin, but not the other way around.

How about Odysseus for Greece, and Aeneas for Italy?

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> Merlin’s definitely not right for Britain. You would say that “Merlin is a character in the Arthur stories”, but you would never say that “Arthur is a character in the Merlin stories”. And you can have a story about Arthur without Merlin, but not the other way around.

You could have a Merlin story without Arthur but everyone would be asking “Where’s ~~Poochie~~ Arthur?”

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> Aeneas for Italy?

Aeneas was a Trojan though; wouldn’t that make him a Greek today?

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He’s a character created in Italy, and representative of the nation that was founded in Italy: I think that’s enough. Calling him Trojan is like calling Washington British. I mean, the founder of any nation (real or legendary) must necessarily have originally been from some other nation.

And in any event, being Trojan would make him Turkish today, not Greek.

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> You could have a Merlin story without Arthur but everyone would be asking “Where’s ~~Poochie~~ Arthur?”

Tim, on the other hand, could carry a story all on his own.

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Ireland: Gulliver from _Gulliver’s Travels_ (Full Title: _Travels into Several Remote Nations of the World. In Four Parts. By Lemuel Gulliver, First a Surgeon, and then a Captain of Several Ships_

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Sweden: Pippi Longstocking?

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> [@Treppenwitz](#):
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> And for the US: The Little Tramp

The Little Tramp (or Mickey Mouse) may be famous American characters. But I don’t feel they’re iconic.

That’s why I suggested Superman. Superman represents the way America wants to see itself; possessing of overwhelming power that gives us the ability to do anything but also having a code of virtue that prevents the misuse of all of that power.

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> [@dorvann](#):
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> Sweden: Pippi Longstocking?

See post #43 😉.

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> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#):
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> Crocodile Dundee?

That’s who I was going to nominate.

Before that - [Dame Edna Everage](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dame_Edna_Everage). But maybe not famous enough outside of Australia?

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> The Little Tramp (or Mickey Mouse) may be famous American characters. But I don’t feel they’re iconic.

I can’t think of anyone more iconic than Mickey Mouse. IMHO Mickey Mouse is the icon of iconicness. But Superman is easily the second-best suggestion for the US I’ve seen in this thread.

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> Or Superman

Or Popeye

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> [@Pardel-Lux](#):
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> Or Tank Girl.

Set in Australia, but both creators are English. (Both from Sussex, actually.)

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France - Joan of Arc  
Britain - Winston Churchill  
Ivory Coast - Didier Drogba  
Finland - Tom  
Canada - originally was gonna go with Don Cherry unitl he went shitty, so - Tommy Douglas  
Sweden - Ingmar Bergman (ha - liked Death, **Dropo**!)  
Argentina - Eva Peron  
Costa Rica - Keylor Navas  
India - Mahatma Gandhi  
US - either Pepe the Frog or Niel Hamburger  
Egypt - Cleopatra / Mohamed Salah  
Norway - Knut Hamsen  
Philippines - Efren Reyes  
Tibet - Dalai Lama  
South Africa - Nelson Mandela  
Italy - Leonardo da Vinci

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I was looking for fictional characters that have been embraced by the popular culture of the country where they were created.

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Ah, right. (headslap emoji)

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New Zealand: Dog

> **[Footrot Flats](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Footrot_Flats)**
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> Footrot Flats, a comic strip by New Zealand cartoonist Murray Ball, ran from 1976 to 1994 in newspapers (unpublished strips continued to appear in book form until 2000). Altogether there are 27 numbered books (collecting the newspaper strips, with additional material), a further 8 books collecting the Sunday newspaper strips, and 5 smaller "pocket" books of original material, plus various related publications. The strips inspired a stage musical, a...

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> [@Richard\_Pearse](#):
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> New Zealand: Dog
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> [Footrot Flats - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Footrot_Flats)

I should have got that one! My wife who grew up in the UK has all the books and I’ve read them all.

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Great Britain: Andy Capp.

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I think the problem with the US is there are plenty of characters to go around: Mickey Mouse, Bugs Bunny, Superman, Spider-Man, Batman, Ronald McDonald, Uncle Sam, Tom Sawyer, Bart Simpson, Captain Kirk, Hulk Hogan, Charlie Brown and Snoopy, Garfield, Rambo, Perry Mason, Dorothy and Toto.

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