# The Most Indecipherable Dopers. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 9, 2017, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-indecipherable-dopers/788470 "2017-06-09T01:22:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2017, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-indecipherable-dopers/788470/141 "2017-06-16T22:36:49Z")
> [@TokyoBayer](#): > > Sure. There is a trade off between self proclaimed eloquence and accessibility. I had, at one point, taken your writing at face value, that you wanted people to understand you. This. Exactly this. > [@AHunter3](#): > > … > I do have a fondness for fine differentials in precise meaning right at the point of their divergence, and I will confess to a fondness for a rhetorical approach that indicates that point of divergence and only later on, in subsequent paragraphs, puts on display the larger and hence genuinely significant of that fork. Since proceeding in this fashion allows me to work with a verbal dissecting knife to perform a precision disentanglement of normally-conflated concepts, and the latter is the territory in which I quite often find myself operating, I will herewith confess to the pride of which you speak but at the same time shall defend it against the charge of lacking sufficient necessity. Allow me to introduce you to **LSLGuy** ’s Language Uncertainty Principle (LUP). The LUP holds that the harder you try to believe there’s a clear and bright-line difference between two words, a 'point of divergence" if you will, the less your audience will share your mistaken ideas about linguistic precision and determinism. The subtlety is lost and the “dissecting knife” turns into a tenderizing hammer in the eyes/ears of one’s audience. I try to be precise and to set out my context in hopes my audience can follow along. The result is long-windedness. Which is a stylistic defect. But which I hope is not a gross obstacle to, merely a detractor from, comprehension. Quality communication is 99% the responsibility of the author; the audience just shows up with whatever baggage, interest, prejudice, and agenda they each happen to bring to the mix. Good luck applying subtlety to people from all over the planet and of every age, socio-economic status, education level, religion, and first language. 'Cuz that’s who’s here. Subtle and precise is a fool’s errand. ---
**Author:** ![MichaelEmouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/michaelemouse/32/101_2.png) [@MichaelEmouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MichaelEmouse)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2017, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-indecipherable-dopers/788470/142 "2017-06-16T23:23:47Z")
The Ambien Award for incomprehencivility goes to: kanicbird I’d be less apprehensive about dropping half a dozen hits of acid on Halloween than to be in his mind for an hour. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2017, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-indecipherable-dopers/788470/143 "2017-06-16T23:49:22Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > **Watchwolf** Watch the wolf pup! ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-indecipherable-dopers/788470/144 "2017-06-22T18:05:04Z")
Some lions and lambs are snoozing under the crabapple in my back yard. In other news, a comprehensible GQ post from Leo! Some of these strings of words are _almost_ grammatical sentences. Has he been secretly paying attention? [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=827171](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=827171) ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-indecipherable-dopers/788470/145 "2017-06-23T00:53:06Z")
Leo’s OP was ~10 days old when this thread started. So it seems his time machine works too. But yes, that was a noteworthy effort for its uncharacteristic clarity. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-indecipherable-dopers/788470/146 "2017-06-23T22:40:53Z")
Normal service has resumed. [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=829436](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=829436) ---
**Author:** ![Patx2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/73ab20/32.png) [@Patx2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Patx2)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-indecipherable-dopers/788470/147 "2017-06-23T23:19:25Z")
I know this thread has been up for a bit and I just came to say that I just attempted to read a thread begun by LeoB. I wanted to follow it, I thought I could follow it, but I got lost somewhere in the midst. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-indecipherable-dopers/788470/148 "2017-06-23T23:57:22Z")
I couldn’t even follow the subject line. The OP was no help whatsoever. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2017, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-indecipherable-dopers/788470/149 "2017-06-24T00:00:28Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > I couldn’t even follow the subject line. The OP was no help whatsoever. These are just elementary steps, but if the calculation as they comment and and interpret [that is to say, Gemara] are predisposed to assay in the darkness [night, pre-sunrise to make a distinction] to calculate each step (in the mo(u)rning (heh heh)…;)?) for millennia, as it equates, the likes of Alos HaShachar according to the Wiki might distinguish darkness given modern-day empirical considerations, other things being equal [equinox], it is always exactly correct (72 minutes). ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2017, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-indecipherable-dopers/788470/150 "2017-06-24T00:04:41Z")
Indeed. One is baffled. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2017, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-indecipherable-dopers/788470/151 "2017-06-24T00:08:38Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > I couldn’t even follow the subject line. The OP was no help whatsoever. Did you make sure to see query? ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2017, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-indecipherable-dopers/788470/152 "2017-07-07T05:21:46Z")
> [@Riemann](#): > > These are just elementary steps, but if the calculation as they comment and and interpret [that is to say, Gemara] are predisposed to assay in the darkness [night, pre-sunrise to make a distinction] to calculate each step (in the mo(u)rning (heh heh)…;)?) for millennia, as it equates, the likes of Alos HaShachar according to the Wiki might distinguish darkness given modern-day empirical considerations, other things being equal [equinox], it is always exactly correct (72 minutes). 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2017, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-indecipherable-dopers/788470/153 "2017-07-07T14:13:00Z")
> [@TroutMan](#): > > No one has mentioned my favorite, **Dunmurry**. I picture him as the [frontier-gibberish guy](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ke5Mr5eCF2U&t=12) from _Blazing Saddles_. I’d say these are some highlights, but it’s only a few randomly selected quotes - there’s plenty more if you want to search his history. Hopefully he returns soon. Fuck me. Winner. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2017, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-indecipherable-dopers/788470/154 "2017-07-07T14:16:04Z")
> [@steatopygia](#): > > In my line of work, we call what Dunmurray was doing, “pressured speech”. > It’s not usually a good thing. It does help explain Kellyanne Conway, though. ---
**Author:** ![Grestarian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grestarian/32/3227_2.png) [@Grestarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grestarian)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2017, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-indecipherable-dopers/788470/155 "2017-07-29T00:26:24Z")
> [@Riemann](#): > > Would you respect him more if instead his _schtick_ were to write a dumb catchphrase at the end of every post _ad infinitum_, _ad nauseam_? Ummm… Is this the part where I’m supposed to skulk in and meekly raise my hand and say, “Hello. My name is Grestarian. I’m a new member and I’m a…a…blathering indecipherable threadshitter.” Because I know I tend to post some excruciatingly long and sometimes twisted dissertations where simple responses are expected and I know I’ve confused or irritated various fellow Dopers with my colorful separation of content that seems arbitrary but is usually intended to distinguish things like background information or anecdotes from my main points. And my habit is to use semi-relevant quotes from lyrics (and sometimes scripts) as signature lines. Both are habits I brought over from some earlier fora (some of which seem to still exist, even though my subscription expired long ago) and there were complaints about that behavior on those sites, too, so I figure I’m at least one of those whose irritating habit you’re calling out. —G! I’m so vain I know you wrote that song all about me… [COLOR=White]…–NOT Carly Simon[/COLOR] ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2017, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-indecipherable-dopers/788470/156 "2017-07-29T00:46:30Z")
> [@Grestarian](#): > > Ummm… > > Is this the part where I’m supposed to skulk in and meekly raise my hand and say, “Hello. My name is Grestarian. I’m a new member and I’m a…a…blathering indecipherable threadshitter.” Hahaha. I just read a post of yours somewhere else that confused the hell out of me. My problem isn’t being indecipherable, but I do tend to wander off topic. At least, that’s what I was told back in 2007 when I joined the boards. I had only been married a year then. It was a lovely wedding, a balmy 65 degree day… ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-indecipherable-dopers/788470/157 "2017-09-28T16:16:55Z")
Had to look back to this to see if komolono has been mentioned (he/she hasn’t.) Inspired by [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=837523). ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-indecipherable-dopers/788470/158 "2017-09-28T17:53:23Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > Had to look back to this to see if komolono has been mentioned (he/she hasn’t.) Inspired by [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=837523). Dear God. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-indecipherable-dopers/788470/159 "2017-09-28T18:04:46Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Dear God. Apparently he’s still working on his [underwater](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=825933) [dome](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=814808). ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2017, 9:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-indecipherable-dopers/788470/160 "2017-09-29T09:11:29Z")
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