# The Most Redone T.V. Show. **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 1, 2016, 9:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-redone-t-v-show/747613 "2016-03-01T09:07:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2016, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-redone-t-v-show/747613/21 "2016-03-01T21:34:35Z")
> [@cochrane](#): > > [Helloooo? Is this thing on?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19143006&postcount=5) Dammit! I _swear_ that I looked, but didn’t see yours. So, no, I guess it’s not on. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2016, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-redone-t-v-show/747613/22 "2016-03-01T21:40:59Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > Dammit! I _swear_ that I looked, but didn’t see yours. > > So, no, I guess it’s not on. Ah, I’m not mad. You provided detail that I left out of my post. I don’t mind when people expand on what I said. People probably learned more from your post. ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2016, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-redone-t-v-show/747613/23 "2016-03-01T22:22:47Z")
What you call Classic Match game was renamed every year: In other words it was Match Game '73 etc. maybe until '79. ---
**Author:** ![That\_Don\_Guy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/that_don_guy/32/538_2.png) [@That\_Don\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_Don_Guy)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2016, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-redone-t-v-show/747613/24 "2016-03-01T22:39:18Z")
> [@TheInimitableMaven](#): > > While some of them are not nearly as prolific as a few other candidates on this thread, I put forth another few game show nominations… > > **Hollywood Squares** > > NBC Daytime Hollywood Squares (1966-80) > NBC Primetime Hollywood Squares, (1968) > NBC Saturday Morning Hollywood Squares (1969) > Syndicated Hollywood Squares (1971-81) > Match Game/Hollywood Squares Hour (1983-84) > John Davidson Hollywood Squares (1986-89) > Tom Bergeron Hollywood Squares (1998-2004) I think you can separate the 1970s syndicated (weekly) Hollywood Squares from the later, daily one (which was more of a tournament format). Also, the NBC Saturday morning one was called The Storybook Squares, presumably because everybody was in character. > [@TheInimitableMaven](#): > > **Match Game** > > The Original Match Game (1962-69) > Classic Match Game ('73-'79) (1973-81) > Match Game/Hollywood Squares Hour (1983-84) > Ross Shafer Match Game (1990-91) > Michael Burger Match Game (1998-99) If you’re counting 1970s syndicated Jeopardy and Hollywood Squares separate from NBC, then you need to count Match Game PM as well. > [@TheInimitableMaven](#): > > **Password** > > Original Password (1961-67) > ABC Password (1971-75) > Password Plus (1979-82) > Super Password (1984-89) > Million Dollar Password (2008-09) “ABC Password” is actually three different shows; Password, then (after a break) Password All-Stars, then a return to Password (using the All-Stars format, but with non-celebrity players). > [@TheInimitableMaven](#): > > **To Tell The Truth** > > The original TTTT with Bud Collyer (1956-68) > The revived/syndicated TTTT with Garry Moore (replaced by Joe Garagiola for the final season) (1969-78) > The Robin Ward TTTT (1980-81) > The Gordon Elliott/Lynn Swann/Alex Trebek TTTT (1990-91) > The John O’Hurley TTTT (2000-01) > The upcoming ABC revival of TTTT with Anthony Anderson. There were (at least) two different Bud Collyer versions; a weekly nighttime one, and a daily CBS daytime one that ran through the late 1960s. There have also been eight versions of The Price is Right that I can think of: NBC daytime, 1956-63 NBC primetime, pretty much the same period as the daytime version ABC daytime, 1963-65 ABC primetime CBS daytime, 1972-present Syndicated weekly (first with Dennis James, then Bob Barker), 1972-1980 Syndicated weekly (with Tom Kennedy), 1985-86 The New Price is Right, with Doug Davidson, 1994 There have been four versions of I’ve Got a Secret that I can think of: CBS (Garry Moore, then Steve Allen) Syndicated (Steve Allen) CBS (four weeks in primetime, hosted by Bill Cullen) Oxygen There have also been four of Beat the Clock: NBC? (Bud Collyer, 1950s) Syndicated (late 1960s; Jack Narz, Gene Wood) CBS daytime (Monty Hall, 1979-80) PAX (2002-03) ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2016, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-redone-t-v-show/747613/25 "2016-03-01T22:51:33Z")
> [@cochrane](#): > > Dragnet: The 1951 original. The 1967 revival. The syndicated Dragnet series which didn’t have the Joe Friday character. The 2003 series with Ed O’Neill. > [@CalMeacham](#): > > Don’t forget **Dragnet**. It started out as a radio show, then moved to TV in the early 1950s. They made a movie (in color!). The show revived in the late 1960s. > > All of these incarnations were the creations of (and starred) Jack Webb. But even after he died (and afer a send-up spoof movie, also titled “Dragnet”, with Dan Aykroyd doing a Webb imitation, and Harry Morgan back as Bill Gannon) there was a 1989 TV series, then a Dick Wolf (_Law and Order_)- created series starring Ed O’Neill (!!) as Joe FRiday, playing it very straight in 2003. > That’s four different TV series called “Dragnet” (not to mention two movies, a TV movie, and a radio show, all with that title). The TV shows ran for an aggregate 13 years. One could argue for “Adam-12” being included as well. Same format with uniformed officers and Webb had a hand in its creation; IMDb says it spun off from the '67 edition, in fact. ---
**Author:** ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2016, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-redone-t-v-show/747613/26 "2016-03-02T00:11:35Z")
> [@cochrane](#): > > The Odd Couple: The original series with Tony Randall and Jack Klugman. The New Odd Couple with Demond Wilson and Ron Glass. The 2015 remake with Matthew Perry. > > Dragnet: The 1951 original. The 1967 revival. The syndicated Dragnet series which didn’t have the Joe Friday character. The 2003 series with Ed O’Neill. Wasn’t there a distaff version of Odd Couple with (maybe) Sally Struthers and (maybe) Rita Moreno? Or was that a road company show? Or very bad booze? > [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > There was also a 1975 animated series. (Everybody sing) Yes, we’re talking 'bout **The Odd-ball Couple** They’re a couple, yes, a couple of odd-balls Foul balls Eight balls ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2016, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-redone-t-v-show/747613/27 "2016-03-02T00:46:56Z")
> [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](#): > > Wasn’t there a distaff version of Odd Couple with (maybe) Sally Struthers and (maybe) Rita Moreno? Or was that a road company show? Or very bad booze? It was a stage play recast by Neil Simon. It never came to television, so I didn’t mention it. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2016, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-redone-t-v-show/747613/28 "2016-03-02T00:54:19Z")
> [@That\_Don\_Guy](#): > > Also, the NBC Saturday morning one was called The Storybook Squares, presumably because everybody was in character. I remember that one. Arte Johnson played his Tyrone F. Horneigh character from Laugh-In, but since it was Saturday morning, they called him the Nice Old Man. ---
**Author:** ![TheInimitableMaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b19c9b/32.png) [@TheInimitableMaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheInimitableMaven)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2016, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-redone-t-v-show/747613/29 "2016-03-02T01:43:42Z")
> [@That\_Don\_Guy](#): > > Also, the NBC Saturday morning one was called The Storybook Squares, presumably because everybody was in character. > > If you’re counting 1970s syndicated Jeopardy and Hollywood Squares separate from NBC, then you need to count Match Game PM as well. > > “ABC Password” is actually three different shows; Password, then (after a break) Password All-Stars, then a return to Password (using the All-Stars format, but with non-celebrity players). _snaps her fingers_ I meant to include _Match Game PM_ and _Storybook Squares_…I got caught up in how the post took much more longer to concoct than I thought it would that I forgot those two. Initially thought of just a couple of shows, and then it immediately mushroomed into more…'cause I’m a game show nerdette like that. 😃 Also, I wondered about ABC _Password_ having different versions as well…so a most kind thank you for that ‘learn something new’ for today. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2016, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-redone-t-v-show/747613/30 "2016-03-02T01:45:58Z")
How do we count NBC’s late night offering? Broadway Open House with Jerry Lester Tonight with Steve Allen Tonight! America After Dark with Jack Lescoulie (a show so bad NBC simply refuses to acknowledge its existence) Tonight with Jack Paar The Tonight Show starring no one (a six month stretch while they waited for Johnny Carson’s ABC contract to end) The Tonight Show starring Johnny Carson The Tonight Show with Jay Leno (part 1) The Tonight Show with Conan O’Brien (again, they hope we forgot this) The Tonight Show starring Jay Leno (part 2) The Tonight Show starring Jimmy Fallon That’s ten different versions, and every one of them changes out the host, the on-camera staff, the music and the producers/writers. ---
**Author:** ![Ranger\_Jeff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranger_jeff/32/2065_2.png) [@Ranger\_Jeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranger_Jeff)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2016, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-redone-t-v-show/747613/31 "2016-03-02T04:05:28Z")
Hell, how would you count NBC’s Saturday Night/Saturday Night Live? ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2016, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-redone-t-v-show/747613/32 "2016-03-02T05:08:43Z")
> [@Ranger\_Jeff](#): > > Hell, how would you count NBC’s Saturday Night/Saturday Night Live? I would count it as just one show since Howard Cosell had a variety show on ABC at the time called Saturday Night Live. That’s why NBC’s show was introduced as “Live from New York, it’s Saturday Night!” Once Cosell’s show was canceled, the NBC show had no problem calling itself Saturday Night Live. They didn’t change the show, just the name. It’s been one continuous show for all of its broadcast history. ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2016, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-redone-t-v-show/747613/33 "2016-03-03T20:59:52Z")
> [@kunilou](#): > > Your a little wrong. The early 1970s color series was _Night Gallery_, which focused more on spooky, supernatural stuff and more or less stayed away from the beat-you-over-the-head morality tales. Call it half a remake. > > Let’s also consider _My Favorite Husband_, a radio sticom starring Lucille Ball. > > It came to television remade as\* I Love Lucy\* > Followed by _The Lucy Show_ > Then _Here’s Lucy_ > And finally\* Life With Lucy\* > > On top of that there was an abortive attempt to do a radio version of ILL and an unsuccessful TV version of MFH. Lucy Show, Here’s Lucy, and Life With Lucy aren’t redoes of I Love Lucy any more than Newhart was a redo of the Bob Newhart Show. Or The Cosby Show was a redo of the Bill Cosby Show or Cosby was a redo of either of those. But there was The Lucy/Desi Comedy Hour which had what was essentially hour long I Love Lucy episodes (sometimes called We Love Lucy in syndicated/home video releases). ---
**Author:** ![RivkahChaya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rivkahchaya/32/8919_2.png) [@RivkahChaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RivkahChaya)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2016, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-redone-t-v-show/747613/34 "2016-03-03T21:11:52Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > How about the story of Clark Kent, who was rocketed here from Krypton and now uses his powers to fight crime and save lives? > > - Adventures Of Superman, with George Reeves; > - The New Adventures Of Superman, with Bud Collyer; > - Super Friends, with Danny Dark; > - Superboy, with Gerard Christopher; > - Superman, with Beau Weaver; > - Lois & Clark, with Dean Cain; > - Superman: The Animated Series, with Tim Daly; > - Smallville, with Tom Welling. It was also a matinee serial and a radio show. > [@cochrane](#): > > The Odd Couple: The original series with Tony Randall and Jack Klugman. The New Odd Couple with Demond Wilson and Ron Glass. The 2015 remake with Matthew Perry. There have been dozens of shows about mismatched roommates that owe a debt to _The Odd Couple_. They sometimes reach pretty far for the “how the got together” premise, but everything from _Mork & Mindy_ to _2 Broke Girls_ has been a variation on this theme. Actually, if there was a fairly straight-up distaff version, it was probably\* Laverne and Shirley\*. Wasn’t that show created by Garry Marshall, who also did\* The Odd Couple\*? ---
**Author:** ![The\_King\_of\_Soup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a87d85/32.png) [@The\_King\_of\_Soup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_King_of_Soup)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2016, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-redone-t-v-show/747613/35 "2016-03-06T01:12:25Z")
I’ll be a curmudgeon. Acknowledged or not, I’ve seen some version of _The Honeymooners_ on TV pretty much constantly since 1968. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2016, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-redone-t-v-show/747613/36 "2016-03-06T02:12:56Z")
> [@The\_King\_of\_Soup](#): > > I’ll be a curmudgeon. Acknowledged or not, I’ve seen some version of _The Honeymooners_ on TV pretty much constantly since 1968. I think this is a really good point. There have been many instances of “The Match Game”, but it’s still the same game, ongoing since the inception. Each episode is no different from season 1 as it is from season 23 - and if you think it is, then you need to say that every season of “Survivor” is a different iteration. To that point, RealityChuck’s nomination of Sherlock Holmes could possibly include shows like “House” and “Psyche” could be added. > [@RealityChuck](#): > > _Sherlock Holmes_ (1951) > _Sherlock Holmes_ (1968) (Italian TV Series) > _Sherlock Holmes_ (1968) (UK TV series starring Peter Cushing) > _Sherlock Holmes and Dr. Watson_ (1980)(UK-Polish TV series) > _Young Sherlock_ (1982) (UK) > _Hound of the Baskervilles_ (1982) (UK miniseries starring Tom Baker) > _The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes_ (1985) (The Jeremy Brett series0 > _[Sherlock Holmes in the 22nd Century](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0218791/)_ > _Elementary_ > _Sherlock_ > > There were also Russian and Japanese animated versions as well as a web show. ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2016, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-redone-t-v-show/747613/37 "2016-03-06T02:27:02Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > There was also a 1975 animated series. You mean “The Oddball Couple” with Spiffy the cat as Felix and Fleabag the dog as Oscar? ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2016, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-redone-t-v-show/747613/38 "2016-03-06T02:48:10Z")
> [@The\_King\_of\_Soup](#): > > I’ll be a curmudgeon. Acknowledged or not, I’ve seen some version of _The Honeymooners_ on TV pretty much constantly since 1968. Actually, before that. There were so many similarities between the _Flintstones_ and the _Honeymooners_ that when the former premiered in 1960, Jackie Gleason considered suing Hanna-Barbera for infringing on his copyright. ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2016, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-redone-t-v-show/747613/39 "2016-03-06T16:04:39Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Now I’m depressed. I can remember watching the first episode. Me, too. ---
**Author:** ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2016, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-redone-t-v-show/747613/40 "2016-03-06T16:41:45Z")
> [@astorian](#): > > You mean “The Oddball Couple” with Spiffy the cat as Felix and Fleabag the dog as Oscar? Why weren’t you singing (post #26)? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-redone-t-v-show/747613.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-most-redone-t-v-show/747613.md?page=3)