# "The Move" - Is it cunniligus? (Seinfeld) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 27, 2004, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-move-is-it-cunniligus-seinfeld/266374 "2004-09-27T22:55:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Kel\_Varnsen\_Latex\_Division](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/aeb1de/32.png) [@Kel\_Varnsen\_Latex\_Division](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kel_Varnsen_Latex_Division)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2004, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-move-is-it-cunniligus-seinfeld/266374/1 "2004-09-27T22:55:43Z")
I always just assumed that Jerry’s move was cunniligus. However, the episode was on today and when Puddy was performing the move on Elaine it comes to this part: > [@](#): > > [Back to Elaine and David in the middle of, uh…you know…] > Elaine: Oh, god! Oh, god, Dave! Oh, yes! Yes! > David: No, I’m sorry. > Elaine: What?!! > David: I can’t do the move. > Elaine: What? > David: Oh, he’s ruined it for me. > Elaine: Oh, oh, come on, please? > David: No, he called me a hack. I’m just not into doing it anymore. > Elaine: Oh, so—so that’s it? > David: I’ll come up with some new stuff. The problem is when Puddy comes out from under the covers his head is up by Elaine’s head and there is no movement up. So is Pudding having sex with Elaine or his he fingering her or using some device? However, when George is trying out the move his head is clearly down below the woman’s waist. So what is this move? Here are some more clues: > [@](#): > > [Later, Jerry and George are outside, where Jerry has just bought a candy bar > at the newsstand] > Jerry: …so he stole my move and he’s using it on Elaine. > George: You told David Putty your move and you didn’t tell _me_? I _need_ a > move. You know I have no moves, Jerry. [points to the candy bar] Gimme a > bite. > Jerry: Can I just get it opened first? > George: I can’t believe you’re hoarding sex moves. I’m out there rubbing > two sticks together. You walk around with a zippo. > Jerry: All right, all right. Here. [hands George a piece of the candy > bar]. > George: [takes a bite] Oh, that’s good. That’s very good. > Jerry: You feel better? > George: Yeah, much better. All right, so what’s the move, because I need > _something_. This woman I’m dating, it’s like she’s doing her nails during > love-making. > Jerry: Nancy Klopper? > George: Yeah. Never seen anyone so bored. I’m working like a dog here. > Give me a moan. _Something_. I’d settle for a belch, for god’s sake. All > right, come on, let’s have it. > Jerry: All right, George. I’m gonna tell you. But I just wanna make sure, > before— > George: Yeah, yeah, yeah. It’s in the vault. I’m putting it in the vault. > Jerry: It’s not even a question of that. The point is when something like > this is passed along, one must be certain that it’s going to be used in a > _conscientious_ way. This is not some parlor trick to be used— > George: You’re gonna tell me…or not. > Jerry: All right. On your bed. You got a headboard? You’ll need a > headboard. > George: I got a headboard. > Jerry: Is it padded? > George: No. > Jerry: Good. How tall is she? > George: Five-foot four. Why? > Jerry: You can’t have more than a one-foot differential in your heights. > Otherwise, you could really hurt your neck. > George: I can’t tell ya how much I appreciate this. > Jerry: George, if you could master this, you’ll never be alone again. > [Back at Jerry’s apartment: Jerry and George have just walked in, still > conversing on the same subject] > Jerry: Now, the ending is kind of an option. I use the swirl. I like the > swirl. I’m comfortable with the swirl. _I_ feel the swirl is a great > capper. He uses the pinch, which I find a little presumptuous. > George: Is it a clockwise swirl? > Jerry: I prefer clockwise, but it’s not written in stone. [http://www.stanthecaddy.com/the-fusilli-jerry-script.html](http://www.stanthecaddy.com/the-fusilli-jerry-script.html) ---
**Author:** ![Neurotik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/91b2a8/32.png) [@Neurotik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neurotik)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2004, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-move-is-it-cunniligus-seinfeld/266374/2 "2004-09-27T22:57:12Z")
They’re all doing cunnilingus of some sort. The problem is that Puddy stole Jerry’s cunnilingus technique. ---
**Author:** ![Kel\_Varnsen\_Latex\_Division](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/aeb1de/32.png) [@Kel\_Varnsen\_Latex\_Division](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kel_Varnsen_Latex_Division)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2004, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-move-is-it-cunniligus-seinfeld/266374/3 "2004-09-27T23:22:29Z")
> [@](#): > > They’re all doing cunnilingus of some sort. So why was Puddy’s head so high? ---
**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2004, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-move-is-it-cunniligus-seinfeld/266374/4 "2004-09-27T23:26:54Z")
Long tongue. ---
**Author:** ![BrotherCadfael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@BrotherCadfael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrotherCadfael)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2004, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-move-is-it-cunniligus-seinfeld/266374/5 "2004-09-27T23:32:50Z")
On a similar note: Can anyone identify the Venus Butterfly? ---
**Author:** ![t-keela](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a3d4f5/32.png) [@t-keela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/t-keela)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2004, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-move-is-it-cunniligus-seinfeld/266374/6 "2004-09-27T23:45:06Z")
Jerry being a comedian and all…he really should be a cunning linguist shouldn’t he. 😉 Maybe he was telling her dirty jokes? ---
**Author:** ![TeaElle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8491ac/32.png) [@TeaElle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TeaElle)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2004, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-move-is-it-cunniligus-seinfeld/266374/7 "2004-09-28T00:27:04Z")
> [@BrotherCadfael](#): > > On a similar note: Can anyone identify the Venus Butterfly? According to a site which cannot be linked here under the two-click rule, it is a technique that combines manual and oral stimulation of the clitoris and G-spot in order to achieve extreme orgasm. ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2004, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-move-is-it-cunniligus-seinfeld/266374/8 "2004-09-28T00:39:38Z")
Isn’t it meant to be vague? Kind of a MacGuffin? ---
**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2004, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-move-is-it-cunniligus-seinfeld/266374/9 "2004-09-28T01:20:07Z")
MacGuffin diving? ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2004, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-move-is-it-cunniligus-seinfeld/266374/10 "2004-09-28T01:38:29Z")
If Elaine was ovulating, would that make it an Egg McGuffin? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![NoPretentiousCodename](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/82dd89/32.png) [@NoPretentiousCodename](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NoPretentiousCodename)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2004, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-move-is-it-cunniligus-seinfeld/266374/11 "2004-09-28T02:07:05Z")
> [@](#): > > If Elaine was ovulating, would that make it an Egg McGuffin? Well, that’s why she uses the Today Sponge… to… err. prevent her eggs from being scrambled. It’s official, I am never eating an egg mcmuffin again. ---
**Author:** ![bughunter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/aeb1de/32.png) [@bughunter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bughunter)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2004, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-move-is-it-cunniligus-seinfeld/266374/12 "2004-09-28T02:09:00Z")
> [@tracer](#): > > MacGuffin diving? More like MacGuffin munching, it appears… ---
**Author:** ![Shirt\_Ninja\_13](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@Shirt\_Ninja\_13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirt_Ninja_13)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2004, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-move-is-it-cunniligus-seinfeld/266374/13 "2004-09-28T04:17:41Z")
> [@bughunter](#): > > More like MacGuffin munching, it appears… But the penis mightier than the sword. _bamf_ ---
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2004, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-move-is-it-cunniligus-seinfeld/266374/14 "2004-09-28T12:59:30Z")
> [@Shirt Ninja 13](#): > > _bamf_ What does this mean? ---
**Author:** ![t-keela](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a3d4f5/32.png) [@t-keela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/t-keela)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2004, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-move-is-it-cunniligus-seinfeld/266374/15 "2004-09-28T13:17:08Z")
> [@Elenia28](#): > > What does this mean? I don’t know about here at the dope…but where I live it stands for **B** ad **A** ss **M** o **F** o…well you get the idea. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2004, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-move-is-it-cunniligus-seinfeld/266374/16 "2004-09-28T13:25:20Z")
> [@t-keela](#): > > I don’t know about here at the dope…but where I live it stands for **B** ad **A** ss **M** o **F** o…well you get the idea. :rolleyes: _bamf_ stated like this, seems to me more of a sound effect, like the X-Men’s Nightcrawler when he teleports - that is the word-sound written…I have no idea how it applies here, but I didn’t get the rest of the post anyway… As for the OP, part of me wants to repeat **William Shatner** ’s famous retort in the SNL skit when the Star Trek geek asks the obscure trivia question: **Get a _life_** Sorry - I honestly don’t mean to be harsh - I am referencing the skit more for its intent. IMHO, I think the writers were probably thinking of a bunch of sexy stuff and kept it purposefully ambiguous - that is at the heart of what made it seem so cool (wow - the Mysterious “Move”) and what could also make it funny (clockwise? counterclockwise? Wait - well, if it is with a tongue? A finger? something else???). Keeping it unclear works for the plot and the humor - so it was kept unclear. If the plot or humor would’ve been improved by specifically stating what it was, they would have - so I bet everybody involved has a variation as to what The Move might be… Beyond that, I don’t see much need to dissect the joke… ---
**Author:** ![don\_t\_ask](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@don\_t\_ask](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_t_ask)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2004, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-move-is-it-cunniligus-seinfeld/266374/17 "2004-09-28T13:52:14Z")
[bamf](http://www.hyperdictionary.com/computing/bamf) says: Definition: /bamf/ 1. [Old X-Men comics] Notional sound made by a person or object teleporting in or out of the hearer’s vicinity. ---
**Author:** ![Kel\_Varnsen\_Latex\_Division](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/aeb1de/32.png) [@Kel\_Varnsen\_Latex\_Division](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kel_Varnsen_Latex_Division)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2004, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-move-is-it-cunniligus-seinfeld/266374/18 "2004-09-28T13:59:35Z")
> [@](#): > > As for the OP, part of me wants to repeat William Shatner’s famous retort in the SNL skit when the Star Trek geek asks the obscure trivia question: Get a life That is the second time this week this skit has been referenced in one on my threads. ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2004, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-move-is-it-cunniligus-seinfeld/266374/19 "2004-09-28T14:01:37Z")
> [@Kel Varnsen - Latex Division](#): > > That is the second time this week this skit has been referenced in one on my threads. Sorry 'bout that, **Kel** - but maybe, instead of pondering these imponderables, there is more you can focus on in the Latex Division… 😃 ---
**Author:** ![fubbleskag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fubbleskag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fubbleskag)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2004, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-move-is-it-cunniligus-seinfeld/266374/20 "2004-09-28T14:14:12Z")
come on… everyone knows that jerry’s “move” is really _The Shocker_ [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-move-is-it-cunniligus-seinfeld/266374.md?page=2)