# The Movie Game II

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-movie-game-ii/287423>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [January 30, 2005, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-movie-game-ii/287423 "2005-01-30T13:35:20Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 81

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**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2005, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-movie-game-ii/287423/1601 "2005-05-09T05:53:44Z")

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> [@Gfactor](#):
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> **Brassed Off**

**Tara Fitzgerald**

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**Author:** ![roger\_thornhill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d9b06d/32.png) [@roger\_thornhill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/roger_thornhill)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2005, 9:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-movie-game-ii/287423/1602 "2005-05-09T09:00:46Z")

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> [@Sternvogel](#):
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> **Tara Fitzgerald**

_The Englishman Who Went Up a Hill But Came Down a Mountain_

Not one of Hugh Grant’s worst. For Pete Postlethwaite, I wanted to use _Usual Suspects_, but it being searchable (ie no common or short words in the title) I saw it had been used. This film provided inspiration for me in a long fight I had, and ultimately won (more like a TKO in boxing terms, I suppose - but _they_ paid _me_!), against my former employers. It’s amazing what advantages can accrue as soon as people start underestimating you.

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2005, 12:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-movie-game-ii/287423/1603 "2005-05-09T12:07:56Z")

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> [@roger thornhill](#):
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> _The Englishman Who Went Up a Hill But Came Down a Mountain_
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> Not one of Hugh Grant’s worst. For Pete Postlethwaite, I wanted to use _Usual Suspects_, but it being searchable (ie no common or short words in the title) I saw it had been used. This film provided inspiration for me in a long fight I had, and ultimately won (more like a TKO in boxing terms, I suppose - but _they_ paid _me_!), against my former employers. It’s amazing what advantages can accrue as soon as people start underestimating you.

Which film inspired you, US or TEWWUAHBCDAM?

And what’s become of **Aesiron**?

Colm Meaney

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**Author:** ![roger\_thornhill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d9b06d/32.png) [@roger\_thornhill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/roger_thornhill)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2005, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-movie-game-ii/287423/1604 "2005-05-09T12:27:20Z")

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> [@ShibbOleth](#):
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> Which film inspired you, US or TEWWUAHBCDAM?

Oh, _Usual Supects_. Specifically, I drew inspiration from it when I was representing myself in a legal case (having gone through two sets of lawyers who said I couldn’t win). One day, I was speaking on the phone to my counterpart at the defendant’s lawyers and I asked him a rathers simple question. When I put the phone down, I started to beat myself up for apparing such a dolt. THEN, it came to me. That’s exactly how you are best served as appearing. So, after that, from time to time - the pre-trial lasted 19 months; would have been longer if I hadn’t contested all the delays they asked for - I would ask something I knew the answer to: to encourage them to underestimate me, to do things they wouldn’t normally do (in terms of taking risks - lawyers are very risk-averse), and to make them think I was an easy enemy.

Shades of _The Art of War_ (which I had read) as well.

Best advice my second lawyer gave me (he popped up again to help me “out of court”, ie sit in the public gallery during the High Court trial, set for 21 days) was about the witnesses for the Defence, mostly my ex colleagues and friends. “They will all lie”.

He was right.

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**Author:** ![Syntropy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/65b543/32.png) [@Syntropy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Syntropy)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2005, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-movie-game-ii/287423/1605 "2005-05-09T16:27:08Z")

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> [@roger thornhill](#):
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> It’s amazing what advantages can accrue as soon as people start underestimating you.

Possibly one of the best advantages you can hope for, in fact. 😉

I like Colm Meaney. Good actor. Underrated.

**Road to Wellville** was fun.

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2005, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-movie-game-ii/287423/1606 "2005-05-09T17:02:38Z")

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Lara Flynn Boyle.

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**Author:** ![Gfactor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de053/32.png) [@Gfactor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gfactor)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2005, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-movie-game-ii/287423/1607 "2005-05-09T18:16:14Z")

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> [@twickster](#):
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> Lara Flynn Boyle.

**Red Rock West**

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**Author:** ![Mike\_H](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecd19e/32.png) [@Mike\_H](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mike_H)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2005, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-movie-game-ii/287423/1608 "2005-05-09T23:53:21Z")

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> [@Gfactor](#):
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> **Red Rock West**

**J.T. Walsh**

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**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2005, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-movie-game-ii/287423/1609 "2005-05-10T06:20:38Z")

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> [@Mike H](#):
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> **J.T. Walsh**

_Pleasantville_

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2005, 11:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-movie-game-ii/287423/1610 "2005-05-10T11:47:54Z")

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> [@Sternvogel](#):
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> _Pleasantville_

Tobey Maguire

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**Author:** ![Gfactor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de053/32.png) [@Gfactor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gfactor)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2005, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-movie-game-ii/287423/1611 "2005-05-10T13:35:58Z")

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> [@ShibbOleth](#):
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> Tobey Maguire

\*\*  
Spider-Man\*\*

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2005, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-movie-game-ii/287423/1612 "2005-05-10T14:10:30Z")

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> [@Gfactor](#):
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> \*\*  
> Spider-Man\*\*

Kirsten Dunst

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2005, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-movie-game-ii/287423/1613 "2005-05-10T14:16:29Z")

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Too short to search, but a great flick I wanted to get a plug in for –

**The Cat’s Meow**

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**Author:** ![Gfactor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de053/32.png) [@Gfactor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gfactor)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2005, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-movie-game-ii/287423/1614 "2005-05-10T14:39:32Z")

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> [@twickster](#):
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> Too short to search, but a great flick I wanted to get a plug in for –
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> **The Cat’s Meow**

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Jennifer Tilly\*\*

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2005, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-movie-game-ii/287423/1615 "2005-05-10T15:24:19Z")

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> [@Gfactor](#):
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> \*\*  
> Jennifer Tilly\*\*

_Bound_

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**Author:** ![Gfactor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de053/32.png) [@Gfactor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gfactor)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2005, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-movie-game-ii/287423/1616 "2005-05-10T15:31:39Z")

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> [@ShibbOleth](#):
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> _Bound_

**Gina Gershon**

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2005, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-movie-game-ii/287423/1617 "2005-05-10T15:46:19Z")

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> [@Gfactor](#):
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> **Gina Gershon**

Am I the only one who occasionally confuses Gina Gershon with Eva Mendez?  
_Showgirls_

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**Author:** ![Mike\_H](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecd19e/32.png) [@Mike\_H](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mike_H)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2005, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-movie-game-ii/287423/1618 "2005-05-10T16:42:32Z")

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> [@ShibbOleth](#):
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> _Showgirls_

Kyle MacLachlan

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2005, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-movie-game-ii/287423/1619 "2005-05-10T17:56:29Z")

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> [@Mike H](#):
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> Kyle MacLachlan

_Blue Velvet_

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**Author:** ![Gfactor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de053/32.png) [@Gfactor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gfactor)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2005, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-movie-game-ii/287423/1620 "2005-05-10T18:04:15Z")

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> [@ShibbOleth](#):
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> _Blue Velvet_

\*\*  
Dennis Hopper\*\*

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