# The munsters vs the adams fsmily

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-munsters-vs-the-adams-fsmily/820853>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [September 6, 2018, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-munsters-vs-the-adams-fsmily/820853 "2018-09-06T02:22:32Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 16\
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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-munsters-vs-the-adams-fsmily/820853/81 "2018-09-09T18:31:09Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> I dressed up as Uncle Fester for Halloween one year.

I dressed up as Eddie Munster one year.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-munsters-vs-the-adams-fsmily/820853/82 "2018-09-09T21:10:26Z")

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I don’t even remember the Munsters, so have to go with the Addams family.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-munsters-vs-the-adams-fsmily/820853/83 "2018-09-09T21:11:38Z")

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Skimming the wiki bios, looks like Gomez and Wednesday are the only ones still with us.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-munsters-vs-the-adams-fsmily/820853/84 "2018-09-10T01:11:41Z")

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> [@Northern\_Piper](#):
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> Skimming the wiki bios, looks like Gomez and Wednesday are the only ones still with us.

And Felix Silla. (Cousin Itt.)

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**Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-munsters-vs-the-adams-fsmily/820853/85 "2018-09-10T02:37:31Z")

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> [@kunilou](#):
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> He received better. _My Cousin Vinnie._
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> [“Did you say yutes???”](https://youtu.be/K6qGwmXZtsE?t=113)

Fred was also good as the safecracker in _ **Disorganized Crime** _, a much underappreciated movie.

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-munsters-vs-the-adams-fsmily/820853/86 "2018-09-10T02:51:08Z")

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> [@Northern\_Piper](#):
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> Skimming the wiki bios, looks like Gomez and Wednesday are the only ones still with us.

Lisa Loring, aka “Wednesday,” has apparently led a fairly tumultuous life:

> **[Lisa Loring](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisa_Loring)**
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> Lisa Loring (born Lisa Ann DeCinces; February 16, 1958 – January 28, 2023) was an American actress. She was best known for her work as a child actress from age six playing Wednesday Addams on the 1964–1966 sitcom The Addams Family.
> Loring was born on Kwajalein Atoll, Marshall Islands, a United Nations Trust Territory at the time, which had been administered by the United States. Her parents, Judith Ann (Callies) and James P. DeCinces, both served in the United States Navy, and divorced shortly...

For some reason (Uhm … crappy translators? :rolleyes:), the character was named “Wensdale” in the Russian dubbing of the '90s movies with Christina Ricci.\*

\*Just like in _ **First Blood** _, Rambo’s code name was “Long Wolf,” not “Lone Wolf.”

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 7:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-munsters-vs-the-adams-fsmily/820853/87 "2018-09-10T07:10:07Z")

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huh. Uncle Fester was [The Kid](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackie_Coogan)with Charlie Chaplin.

[Johnny Carson voice]I did not know that.[/Johnny Carson voice]

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-munsters-vs-the-adams-fsmily/820853/88 "2018-09-10T15:06:16Z")

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> [@Northern\_Piper](#):
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> huh. Uncle Fester was [The Kid](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackie_Coogan)with Charlie Chaplin.
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> [Johnny Carson voice]I did not know that.[/Johnny Carson voice]

Yes, and it’s because of him that child actors today cannot be cheated out of their money by their parents:

> **[California Child Actor's Bill](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Child_Actor%27s_Bill)**
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> The California Child Actor's Bill (also known as Coogan Act or Coogan Bill) is a law applicable to child performers, designed to safeguard a portion of their earnings for when they reach the age of majority, and protect them from exploitation and abuse.
> The original Bill was passed in 1939 by the State of California in response to the plight of Jackie Coogan, who earned millions of dollars as a successful child actor only to discover, upon reaching adulthood, that his mother and stepfather had s...

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**Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-munsters-vs-the-adams-fsmily/820853/89 "2018-09-11T15:05:42Z")

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I recently checked out of the library the first two seasons of _Addams Family_ so it is certainly fresher in my mind than the decades-old ones of _The Munsters_ but I think the humor in the former is more sophisticated than in the latter.

I was also absolutely fascinated by Morticia’s dress. Besides the obvious reasons, I have to wonder: Could the poor woman even sit down in that thing?

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**Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-munsters-vs-the-adams-fsmily/820853/90 "2018-09-11T15:13:53Z")

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> I recently checked out of the library the first two seasons of _Addams Family_ so it is certainly fresher in my mind than the decades-old ones of _The Munsters_ but I think the humor in the former is more sophisticated than in the latter.
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> I was also absolutely fascinated by Morticia’s dress. Besides the obvious reasons, I have to wonder: Could the poor woman even sit down in that thing?

They lampshaded that in an episode when she gave Wednesday a makeover. Trying to move in that thing gave the poor little girl fits. She turned to Lurch to ask for advice. He gave a sympathetic grunt, and she gave him a bit hug. Object lesson: compassion does not require eloquence.

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**Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-munsters-vs-the-adams-fsmily/820853/91 "2018-09-11T15:20:26Z")

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> I recently checked out of the library the first two seasons of _Addams Family_ so it is certainly fresher in my mind than the decades-old ones of _The Munsters_ but I think the humor in the former is more sophisticated than in the latter.
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> I was also absolutely fascinated by Morticia’s dress. Besides the obvious reasons, I have to wonder: Could the poor woman even sit down in that thing?

In a number of episodes she’s shown sitting down in a large wicker chair called a peacock chair. Once she asked some “normals” who thought she was an alien, “Mind if I smoke?” while sitting. Then (after getting permission) smoke rose from her back.

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**Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-munsters-vs-the-adams-fsmily/820853/92 "2018-09-11T15:29:00Z")

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> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#):
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> We actually had a [poll](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=671517) once.

I guess they never closed it because I just voted in it. LOL

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**Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-munsters-vs-the-adams-fsmily/820853/93 "2018-09-11T15:33:45Z")

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> [@Dendarii\_Dame](#):
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> In a number of episodes she’s shown sitting down in a large wicker chair called a peacock chair. Once she asked some “normals” who thought she was an alien, “Mind if I smoke?” while sitting. Then (after getting permission) smoke rose from her back.

True. I remember her sitting in more than one episode, but do not recall seeing at any time Ms Jones transition from standing to sitting (or vice-versa for that matter). I’d bet they had ‘standing’ and ‘sitting’ versions of the costume.

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**Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-munsters-vs-the-adams-fsmily/820853/94 "2018-09-11T16:50:39Z")

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Oh, goody! I was hoping this would come up again. Now I can give my analogy: The Addams Family is like a work of art by surreal artist Ray Caesar. Captivating and repellant at the same time, eerie and haunting. … The Munsters is like a black velvet oil painting of a clown…to each his own!

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**Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-munsters-vs-the-adams-fsmily/820853/95 "2018-09-11T17:00:34Z")

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> [@terentii](#):
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> Yes, and it’s because of him that child actors today cannot be cheated out of their money by their parents:
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> [California Child Actor's Bill - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Child_Actor%27s_Bill)

That law didn’t do squat for Gary Coleman and a bunch of other ex-child actors. Note it only specifies 15% of the earnings go to a trust, and those can be manipulated. Furthermore, the IRS comes after the kid for back taxes caused by the parents’ financial shenanigans. For example, the Cowsills kids, while not in CA, found themselves suffering most from the latter matter.

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**Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-munsters-vs-the-adams-fsmily/820853/96 "2018-09-12T00:06:10Z")

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> Could the poor woman even sit down in that thing?

Probably. They’d have used some sort of fabric that gives (silk jersey, or something), and/or they’d probably have cut it on the bias. She wouldn’t be leaping about, or doing high kicks with her legs confined, but she’d be able to sit.

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