# The Muppets are....... not real.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-muppets-are-not-real/140190>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 3, 2002, 10:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-muppets-are-not-real/140190 "2002-12-03T10:20:57Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![St.Urho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8e7dd6/32.png) [@St.Urho](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/St.Urho)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2002, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-muppets-are-not-real/140190/21 "2002-12-03T16:12:20Z")

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> \*Originally posted by widdershins \*  
> \*\*Give Rolf his own talk show, with Pepe the shrimp as his sidekick. \*\*

[Pepe] I am not a shrimp… I am a KING prawn!"[/pepe]

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**Author:** ![Sauron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce7236/32.png) [@Sauron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sauron)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2002, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-muppets-are-not-real/140190/22 "2002-12-03T16:14:53Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Annie-Xmas \*  
> Fozzie Bear did a 2 minute spiel on how stupid it was to have a whole show based on puppers …

What’s a “pupper”? Is that a puppet on uppers? If so, I agree with Fozzie. Drug use among puppets has risen exponentially over the past few years. We certainly don’t need an entire show glamorizing the problem. It took decades to get puppets to stop freebasing lint.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2002, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-muppets-are-not-real/140190/23 "2002-12-03T16:30:00Z")

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The Swedish Chef is real, isn’t he? I mean, just look at his hands.

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**Author:** ![gonzoron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a6a055/32.png) [@gonzoron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzoron)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2002, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-muppets-are-not-real/140190/24 "2002-12-03T16:43:40Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Ice Wolf \*  
> \*\*Wait, wait – Gonzo’s gotta be real, right? Right? \*\*

Duh, of course he is! 😉

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**Author:** ![bdgr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a87d85/32.png) [@bdgr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bdgr)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2002, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-muppets-are-not-real/140190/25 "2002-12-03T16:47:23Z")

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Dr. Teeth and the Electric Mayhem are my favorite band.

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**Author:** ![Freyr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/freyr/32/5763_2.png) [@Freyr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freyr)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2002, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-muppets-are-not-real/140190/26 "2002-12-03T16:48:00Z")

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\*\*SuperLorie wrote:

KERMIT FOR PRESIDENT!!!\*\*

Eh, why not? The only difference between Dubya and Kermit is the fact the Kermit’s skin is green. Otherwise, they’re both two puppets with someone else’s hand up their ass making their lips move!

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**Author:** ![gonzoron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a6a055/32.png) [@gonzoron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzoron)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2002, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-muppets-are-not-real/140190/27 "2002-12-03T16:49:13Z")

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> \*Originally posted by dantheman \*  
> \*\*Besides, those interviews with Muppets are completely scripted (of course); no wild cards, no curveballs thrown at the host. Then again, no bombshells, either, no exclusives, no … \*\*

Oh, you mean like every other celebrity interview? 🙂

Seriously though, I saw one of the muppeteers live (Steve Whitmire as Kermit and Ernie) at an on-campus appearance, with unscripted Q&A from the audience. He’s pretty quick-witted. I wouldn’t be surprised if they’re all pretty skilled at improv. And you don’t play the same character for years without being able to hold a conversation in-character.

So, like I said, probably like all the other celebrity interviews, partially scripted, but not fully.

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**Author:** ![betenoir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/258eb7/32.png) [@betenoir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/betenoir)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2002, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-muppets-are-not-real/140190/28 "2002-12-03T16:50:57Z")

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> \*Originally posted by welby \*  
> \*\*Sorry. True Muppetarians are supporting **Animal** for president and the **Swedish Chef** for VP.
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> GRRRAHHHH!!! Bork bork bork! \*\*

Ok, interviewing them on television is one thing, but now you’re just being ridiculous.

Obviously, the Chef, as a naturalized citizen, is not eligible for vice-president 🙂 .

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**Author:** ![Mojo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Mojo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mojo)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2002, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-muppets-are-not-real/140190/29 "2002-12-03T17:05:12Z")

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> \*Originally posted by welby \*  
> \*\*Sorry. True Muppetarians are supporting **Animal** for president and the **Swedish Chef** for VP.  
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This sounds like an old vaudevillian routine- “Swedish Chef, if you were elected and there was Supreme Court vacancy, who would you nominate?”

“Bork bork bork!”

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**Author:** ![Ice\_Wolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/dfb087/32.png) [@Ice\_Wolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ice_Wolf)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2002, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-muppets-are-not-real/140190/30 "2002-12-03T18:00:57Z")

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> _Orig. posted by Ice Wolf  
> Wait, wait – Gonzo’s gotta be real, right? Right?_

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> _Orig. posted by gonzoron  
> Duh, of course he is! 😉_

Oh, phew! Hey, mate, he had me worried for a minute there. 😃

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**Author:** ![Swampwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8edcca/32.png) [@Swampwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Swampwolf)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2002, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-muppets-are-not-real/140190/31 "2002-12-03T18:10:34Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Ooner \*  
> \*\*All you talk show hosts out there must feel really embarrassed to have had them on your show and actually talked to them like guests. Oh, and poor CNN or MSNBC or whatever news channel I saw them on. They must be heartbroken to hear that the interview they recently had asking Kermit and Piggy about their rumored romance wasn’t news at all, but a fake conversation with puppets. \*\*

I dunno about this, **Ooner,** but interviews with Oz and Henson show them speaking of the Muppets as if they were real. They have disctinct personalities, _apart_ from those of the guys with their hands up muppet asses.  
It all boils down to “how do you define real?”  
IMHO, the muppets are as real as you and me. Well…me, anyway.

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**Author:** ![cichlidiot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f9b8f/32.png) [@cichlidiot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cichlidiot)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2002, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-muppets-are-not-real/140190/32 "2002-12-03T18:11:41Z")

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Of course Muppets are real, **Gorgon Heap** has been a member here for quite some time. He just doesn’t flash his status around so he can post like any other normal Muppet. 😛

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**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2002, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-muppets-are-not-real/140190/33 "2002-12-03T18:17:57Z")

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I think the interviews with Kermit and Piggy are a riot. THey’re often very adult and clever. Piggy was talking to Al Roker about getting her stomach “welded” on Thanksgiving.

I like living in a world where popular puppets get some time on the nightly news.

God people, can’t we just have a little bit of fun and goofiness in our lives?

I’m SEYMOUR I’m PEPE WE’RE TWO OF A KIND!

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**Author:** ![Miss\_Magic8ball](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Miss\_Magic8ball](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miss_Magic8ball)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2002, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-muppets-are-not-real/140190/34 "2002-12-03T19:13:51Z")

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LIAR! TAKE IT BACK TAKE IT BACK TAKE IT BACK!!!

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2002, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-muppets-are-not-real/140190/35 "2002-12-03T19:19:49Z")

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Interestingly, as far back as when Jim Henson was Kermit, there would be interviewers who would point the hand microphone to Kermit’s mouth and had to be gently redirected so that the conversation could be recorded.

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**Author:** ![welby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/d78d45/32.png) [@welby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/welby)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2002, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-muppets-are-not-real/140190/36 "2002-12-03T19:21:09Z")

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> \*Originally posted by betenoir \*  
> \*\*Ok, interviewing them on television is one thing, but now you’re just being ridiculous.
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> Obviously, the Chef, as a naturalized citizen, is not eligible for vice-president 🙂 . \*\*

Damn. Maybe one of the grumpy old men in the balcony?

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**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2002, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-muppets-are-not-real/140190/37 "2002-12-03T19:40:55Z")

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The muppets are real, **Ooner** is not!

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2002, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-muppets-are-not-real/140190/38 "2002-12-03T19:57:23Z")

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> The Muppets are… not real.

Well, I’ve _seen_ muppets (in person, even). Has anyone ever seen **Ooner**?

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**Author:** ![beagledave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6de8d8/32.png) [@beagledave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beagledave)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2002, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-muppets-are-not-real/140190/39 "2002-12-03T20:15:32Z")

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I’m still bothered by Miss Piggy shilling for Dennys though.

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**Author:** ![MsRobyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/90ced4/32.png) [@MsRobyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsRobyn)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2002, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-muppets-are-not-real/140190/40 "2002-12-03T20:16:10Z")

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> \*Originally posted by welby \*  
> \*\*Damn. Maybe one of the grumpy old men in the balcony? \*\*

Statler and Waldorf?

Maybe not, but I’d love them to “do” a State of the Union sometime.

Robin

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