# The Muppets are....... not real.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-muppets-are-not-real/140190>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 3, 2002, 10:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-muppets-are-not-real/140190 "2002-12-03T10:20:57Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2002, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-muppets-are-not-real/140190/41 "2002-12-03T20:19:09Z")

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You guys are nuts. SAM EAGLE for president.

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**Author:** ![teela\_brown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d9b06d/32.png) [@teela\_brown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/teela_brown)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2002, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-muppets-are-not-real/140190/42 "2002-12-03T20:23:25Z")

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Well, some folks are convinced. What was that I heard recently (sorry no cite) about some religious right folks forbidding their kids watching the Muppets because of “sexual tension” between Kermit and Miss Piggy?

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**Author:** ![gonzoron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a6a055/32.png) [@gonzoron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzoron)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2002, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-muppets-are-not-real/140190/43 "2002-12-03T20:55:22Z")

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> \*Originally posted by pugluvr \*  
> \*\*“sexual tension” between Kermit and Miss Piggy? \*\*

Time to trot out one of my favorite quotes:

“They’re Muppets! They don’t exist from the waist down!” - Muppeteer Steve Whitmire’s response to a question on Bert & Ernie’s sexuality.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2002, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-muppets-are-not-real/140190/44 "2002-12-03T21:04:02Z")

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> \*Originally posted by jarbabyj \*  
> \*\*You guys are nuts. SAM EAGLE for president. \*\*

Didn’t that already happen?

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**Author:** ![Bean\_Counter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/db5fbb/32.png) [@Bean\_Counter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bean_Counter)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2002, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-muppets-are-not-real/140190/45 "2002-12-03T23:04:23Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Larry Mudd \*  
> \*\*Didn’t that already happen? \*\*

**FOUR MORE YEARS! FOUR MORE YEARS!**

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**Author:** ![apotheosis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ba8739/32.png) [@apotheosis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/apotheosis)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2002, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-muppets-are-not-real/140190/46 "2002-12-03T23:12:21Z")

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> \*Originally posted by MsRobyn \*  
> \*\*Statler and Waldorf?
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> Maybe not, but I’d love them to “do” a State of the Union sometime.\*\*

They’re hangin’ at the [Moulin Rouge](http://68.46.231.224/gfx/hit.it.statWald.jpg).

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**Author:** ![TV\_time](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f17d59/32.png) [@TV\_time](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TV_time)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2002, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-muppets-are-not-real/140190/47 "2002-12-04T03:31:26Z")

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> \*Originally posted by widdershins \*  
> \*\*Until Kermit or Piggy become paid contributors or analysts for Fox, CNN, or MSNBC I wouldn’t worry about it. \*\*

I was under the impression that Sam the Eagle was working for FOXNews.

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**Author:** ![WSLer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a6a055/32.png) [@WSLer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WSLer)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2002, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-muppets-are-not-real/140190/48 "2002-12-04T03:40:45Z")

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You guys do know that **Elmo** was called to testify at a Congressional hearing a month or two ago. C-Span covered it.

/Comic Book Guy/

Most Ridiculous Congressional Hearing Witness EVER!!

/Comic Book Guy/

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**Author:** ![bdgr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a87d85/32.png) [@bdgr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bdgr)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2002, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-muppets-are-not-real/140190/49 "2002-12-04T03:49:57Z")

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> \*Originally posted by betenoir \*  
> \*\*Ok, interviewing them on television is one thing, but now you’re just being ridiculous.
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> Obviously, the Chef, as a naturalized citizen, is not eligible for vice-president 🙂 . \*\*

Nope…They revealed on one episode of The Muppet Show that he was not really swedish.

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**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2002, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-muppets-are-not-real/140190/50 "2002-12-04T04:27:11Z")

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> Although Strom Thurmond does look like a recycled character from The Dark Crystal.

This is one of the most insightful things I’ve ever read on this board. 🙂

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**Author:** ![artemis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/91b2a8/32.png) [@artemis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/artemis)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2002, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-muppets-are-not-real/140190/51 "2002-12-04T05:18:07Z")

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> \*Originally posted by widdershins \*  
> \*\*  
> Until Kermit or Piggy become paid contributors or analysts for Fox, CNN, or MSNBC I wouldn’t worry about it. \*\*

Actually, from what I remember of Kermit’s job performance when he occasionally worked a lowly reporter on _Sesame Street_, I’d say adding him as a regular commentator on MSNBC, FOX News, or CNN might represent a distinct step upward for those networks. 😃

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**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2002, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-muppets-are-not-real/140190/52 "2002-12-04T05:28:51Z")

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Kermit: And now for a Muppet News flash. Little Bo Peep has lost her sheep!

Bill O’Reilly: Lost sheep, must be because of the Clinton Legacy and Ludacris endorcing Pepsi

Kermit: Uh, okay, hey, look here is the sheep now!

Wolf in sheep’s clothing: Where is Little Red Riding Hood?

Bill O’Reilly: Sexual Predators, must be the Clinton Legacy and Ludacris endorcing Pepsi!

Kermit: Sheesh

Bill O’Reilly: In other news, Bill Clinton fell out of a plane today and BAM!!!::Bill Clinton falls on O’Reilly::

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**Author:** ![furryman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/furryman/32/99_2.png) [@furryman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furryman)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2002, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-muppets-are-not-real/140190/53 "2002-12-04T15:49:15Z")

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I’d love to see a complete tape of the time Kermit hosted the Tonight Show. I’ve often wondered what the guests that night were thinking.

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**Author:** ![Gorgon\_Heap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f475e1/32.png) [@Gorgon\_Heap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorgon_Heap)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2002, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-muppets-are-not-real/140190/54 "2002-12-04T17:20:29Z")

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I would like to thank my fellow Dopers for making one of the greatest threads ever.

Kermit as a real anchor? Perfect!

As for our administration … well I’m almost certain Rumsfeld is really Dr. Strangepork.

[http://www.kermitage.com/html/characterindex/tms/characterde.html](http://www.kermitage.com/html/characterindex/tms/characterde.html)

> **[U.S. Department of Defense](https://www.defense.gov/)**
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> The Department of Defense is America's largest government agency. With our military tracing its roots back to pre-Revolutionary times, the department has grown and evolved with our nation.

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**Author:** ![ralphthemuppet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f07891/32.png) [@ralphthemuppet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ralphthemuppet)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2002, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-muppets-are-not-real/140190/55 "2002-12-05T21:34:43Z")

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**Ooner** myself, **Gorgon Heap** & **Gonzoron** would like a quiet little word if you don’t mind.

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**Author:** ![pravnik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pravnik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pravnik)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2002, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-muppets-are-not-real/140190/56 "2002-12-05T23:40:38Z")

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They are real. After the “Swedish Chef” retired from the show, he took up coding. Here’s proof:

[http://www.google.com/intl/xx-bork/](http://www.google.com/intl/xx-bork/)

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**Author:** ![Dread\_Pirate\_Jimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dread_pirate_jimbo/32/3897_2.png) [@Dread\_Pirate\_Jimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dread_Pirate_Jimbo)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2002, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-muppets-are-not-real/140190/57 "2002-12-06T00:01:46Z")

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Wait just a damn minute. Are you people suggesting that all politicians ARE NOT muppets?!? You take a close look at Dubya and Strom Thurmond (and in Canada, Jean Chrétien and Joe Clark) and honestly tell me they’re humans. Don’t make me laugh Hah! Hah!

(Please let them be muppets. Please let them be muppets. Please let them be muppets.)

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**Author:** ![Gorgon\_Heap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f475e1/32.png) [@Gorgon\_Heap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorgon_Heap)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2002, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-muppets-are-not-real/140190/58 "2002-12-06T00:12:52Z")

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**ralph** … perfect. 😃

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**Author:** ![Jane\_D\_oh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/839c29/32.png) [@Jane\_D\_oh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jane_D_oh)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2002, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-muppets-are-not-real/140190/59 "2002-12-06T15:37:02Z")

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> \*Originally posted by beagledave \*  
> \*\*I’m still bothered by Miss Piggy shilling for Dennys though. \*\*

Me too! How could she even look at the bacon on her breakfast plate? It could have been a relative. Yikes!!

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**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2002, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-muppets-are-not-real/140190/60 "2002-12-06T16:57:08Z")

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> \*Originally posted by apotheosis \*  
> \*\*Because inevitably, at some point, someone’s gonna make the joke about Ms. Piggy losing speaking roles because of the frog in her throat. \*\*

* * *

Hunh. I thought someone by now would have asked the age-old question: “What’s green and smells like bacon? Kermit’s finger.”  
😃

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