# The Muppets are....... not real. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 3, 2002, 10:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-muppets-are-not-real/140190 "2002-12-03T10:20:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![apotheosis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ba8739/32.png) [@apotheosis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/apotheosis)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2002, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-muppets-are-not-real/140190/61 "2002-12-06T18:03:06Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Clothahump \* I’ll be damned, a Spellsinger fan. I thought I was the only one. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2002, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-muppets-are-not-real/140190/62 "2002-12-06T18:59:00Z")
(It’s terribly depressing, **apo**. . . but you’re not. Damn. I just outed myself.) ---
**Author:** ![SandyHook](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@SandyHook](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SandyHook)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2002, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-muppets-are-not-real/140190/63 "2002-12-06T19:29:28Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally posted by apotheosis > > Because inevitably, at some point, someone’s gonna make the joke about Ms. Piggy losing speaking roles because of the frog in her throat. One of the best posts I’ve seen. Almost fell out of my chair laughing. Can’t wait until the Piggy/Kermie subject comes up at a Christmas party so I can use it. ---
**Author:** ![SuaSponte](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/67e7ee/32.png) [@SuaSponte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuaSponte)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2002, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-muppets-are-not-real/140190/64 "2002-12-06T20:23:21Z")
Awright, I’ve had enough!! At least two years ago, Miss Piggy was interviewed by John Stewart on _The Daily Show._ Miss Piggy had a sore throat that day, and John Stewart said, “What’s the matter, frog in your throat?” As the audience roared, Miss Piggy did a classic slow burn, something I had previously thought impossible by a person with cloth eyes. After the audience died down, Miss Piggy quietly said to John: “Nice one.” So, credit where credit is due, people. Sua ---
**Author:** ![apotheosis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ba8739/32.png) [@apotheosis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/apotheosis)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2002, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-muppets-are-not-real/140190/65 "2002-12-06T20:26:37Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by SuaSponte \* > **So, credit where credit is due, people.** Moses, the kid next door who told me that joke when I was eight? I’d give him credit, but he moved to Detroit. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![waynemcdougall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b77776/32.png) [@waynemcdougall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/waynemcdougall)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2002, 10:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-muppets-are-not-real/140190/66 "2002-12-07T10:37:32Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by betenoir \* > Obviously, the Chef, as a naturalized citizen, is not eligible for vice-president 🙂 . \*\* Obviously you haven’t read the US Constitution. That restriction only applies to the office of President. > **[Article II](https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/articleii)** ---
**Author:** ![waynemcdougall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b77776/32.png) [@waynemcdougall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/waynemcdougall)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2002, 10:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-muppets-are-not-real/140190/67 "2002-12-07T10:45:30Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by MsRobyn \* > \*\*Statler and Waldorf? > > Maybe not, but I’d love them to “do” a State of the Union sometime. > > Robin \*\* Statler: The Union’s in the WORST state it’s ever been! Waldorf: It’s TERRIBLE! S: Part’s of it aren’t bad. W: Some of it is OK S: I quite like some of it. W: Some of the Union is great. S: Terrific W: More more. S: Encore encore. ---
**Author:** ![tavalla](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tavalla/32/89_2.png) [@tavalla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tavalla)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2002, 11:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-muppets-are-not-real/140190/68 "2002-12-07T11:37:27Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by apotheosis \* > \*\*I’ll be damned, a Spellsinger fan. I thought I was the only one. 🙂 \*\* Should we form a support society? ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2002, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-muppets-are-not-real/140190/69 "2002-12-07T16:54:05Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by waynemcdougall \* > \*\*Obviously you haven’t read the US Constitution. That restriction only applies to the office of President. > \*\* But the Constitution also states: > [@](#): > > **The electors shall meet in their respective states, and vote by ballot for two persons, of whom one at least shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves.** \>snip\< The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates, and the votes shall then be counted. **The person having the greatest number of votes shall be the President,** if such number be a majority of the whole number of electors appointed; \>snip stuff about a tie vote\< **In every case, after the choice of the President, the person having the greatest number of votes of the electors shall be the Vice President.** \>another snip about tie votes\< > > The Congress may determine the time of choosing the electors, and the day on which they shall give their votes; which day shall be the same throughout the United States. > **No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen Years a resident within the United States.** (Bolding and snipping courtesy of kaylasdad99) The clear implication of the above is that a candidate for Vice President must be eligible to serve as President. And if clear implicatioins aren’t enough for you, here’s the last sentence from that link: [But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.](http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.amendmentxii.html) ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2002, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-muppets-are-not-real/140190/70 "2002-12-07T17:15:03Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by kaylasdad99 \* > \*\* > > [But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.](http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.amendmentxii.html) \*\* Which means Kissinger was screwed from the beginning even though he would have make a **great** muppet (that face-- that voice!). ---
**Author:** ![Blueapple](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a183cd/32.png) [@Blueapple](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blueapple)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2002, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-muppets-are-not-real/140190/71 "2002-12-07T19:18:32Z")
I’ve actually been to a university graduation and the commencement speaker was Kermit. ---
**Author:** ![betenoir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/258eb7/32.png) [@betenoir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/betenoir)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2002, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-muppets-are-not-real/140190/72 "2002-12-08T05:00:20Z")
Cool. I’ve caused a pit thread about Muppets to drift into a debate on the Constitution. That’s why I love this place. Well, like kaylasdad said, it’s was my belief that the vice-presisdent couldn’t be naturalized since that would make him ineligible to be president and that’s the whole point of him. (And if he could be born elsewhere, all Osama Bin Laden would have to do is become a citizen, get elected vice president, and assasinate his running mate, and he’d be running the country. And then where would we be?) But now I hear the Swedish Chef is not really Swedish (can nothing be relied upon in this fallen world?) So what the hell is he? ---
**Author:** ![apotheosis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ba8739/32.png) [@apotheosis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/apotheosis)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2002, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-muppets-are-not-real/140190/73 "2002-12-08T05:12:20Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by tavalla \* > \*\*Should we form a support society? \*\* After the last one I read, maybe so. He should’ve stopped while he was ahead… ☹ ---
**Author:** ![waynemcdougall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b77776/32.png) [@waynemcdougall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/waynemcdougall)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2002, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-muppets-are-not-real/140190/74 "2002-12-08T20:10:40Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by kaylasdad99 \* > \*\*But the Constitution also states: > (Bolding and snipping courtesy of kaylasdad99) > > The clear implication of the above is that a candidate for Vice President must be eligible to serve as President. > > And if clear implicatioins aren’t enough for you, here’s the last sentence from that link: > > [But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.](http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.amendmentxii.html) \*\* Ok, I was completely and utterly wrong. I’m pathetically grateful for being corrected. Of course this foils Plan A for world domination. I must now switch to plan B which involves heading an appropriate UN organisation and then getting the United States to join the one world government without no Amendment XII getting in my way. But Plan C may be better, if I an just get the sharkes to wear the ‘lasers’. In any event as penance for being both wrong and off-topic (in the BBQ Pit?) I’ve agreed to do one gig with The Fabuous Zucchini Brothers: wa hey up hey wah hey up canon how up wah hey load up way hey NO NO NO feet first FEET FIRST F-E-E-T F-I _BOOOOOM_ IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE ta-da! ---
**Author:** ![foolishmortal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f1d935/32.png) [@foolishmortal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolishmortal)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2002, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-muppets-are-not-real/140190/75 "2002-12-09T00:46:08Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by betenoir \* > \*\* > > Well, like kaylasdad said, it’s was my belief that the vice-presisdent couldn’t be naturalized since that would make him ineligible to be president and that’s the whole point of him. (And if he could be born elsewhere, all Osama Bin Laden would have to do is become a citizen, get elected vice president, and assasinate his running mate, and he’d be running the country. And then where would we be?) > > \*\* (slightly) Better off. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Gui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@El\_Gui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Gui)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2002, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-muppets-are-not-real/140190/76 "2002-12-09T01:07:30Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by pravnik \* > \*\*After the “Swedish Chef” retired from the show, he took up coding. \*\* I thought he took up translating? [Swedish Chef](http://www.rinkworks.com/dialect/) ---
**Author:** ![Ranchoth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranchoth/32/1066_2.png) [@Ranchoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranchoth)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2002, 8:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-muppets-are-not-real/140190/77 "2002-12-09T08:50:30Z")
As long as they don’t make Kermit the new “Scud Stud,” it can’t be that bad… ---
**Author:** ![Lok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e8c25b/32.png) [@Lok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lok)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2002, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-muppets-are-not-real/140190/78 "2002-12-09T11:53:40Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by bdgr \* > \*\*Nope…They revealed on one episode of The Muppet Show that he was not really swedish. \*\* But I thought they revealed that he was Japanese. ---
**Author:** ![Dread\_Pirate\_Jimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dread_pirate_jimbo/32/3897_2.png) [@Dread\_Pirate\_Jimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dread_Pirate_Jimbo)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2002, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-muppets-are-not-real/140190/79 "2002-12-10T06:15:52Z")
Frankly, if any of the Muppets were hired to do a full-time gig as interviewers, I’d never miss a broadcast–as puppets, they can probably get away with asking some of the hard-hitting questions that humans don’t dare ask. As for the politician stuff, I’d vote for a Muppet in a second. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-muppets-are-not-real/140190.md?page=3)