# The Muppets! New show on ABC

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-muppets-new-show-on-abc/732209>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [September 22, 2015, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-muppets-new-show-on-abc/732209 "2015-09-22T14:43:25Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 4\
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**Author:** ![DKW](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dkw/32/3118_2.png) [@DKW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DKW)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2016, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-muppets-new-show-on-abc/732209/161 "2016-05-15T22:53:53Z")

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This just reinforces a tenet I’ve always had: If you want a dark, edgy, mean-spirited, heavy-handed “adult” series, make a dark, edgy, mean-spirited, heavy-handed “adult” series. Don’t horribly warp an existing franchise to fit your vision. Has anyone here actually read the original The Tick comics? They were goofy as hell and didn’t give half a fledermaus’ butt about adult anything. They had more in common with Adam West’s Batman than Frank Miller’s.

Doesn’t matter if Jim Henson “created the Muppets for an adult audience and it also appealed to kids” (and I sure as hell never noticed that). For a huge swath of the fandom, The Muppets are and always will be family entertainment. Mess with that, and you tick off a lot of viewers and ratings suffer.

Ah well. Hopefully this will turn off network execs to using darkness or adult-ness as a substitute for actually making a damn effort. (Where have you gone, Homestar Runner?)

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**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2016, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-muppets-new-show-on-abc/732209/162 "2016-05-15T23:37:44Z")

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> [@DKW](#):
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> a dark, edgy, mean-spirited, heavy-handed “adult” series

This really does not describe the late _Muppets_.

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**Author:** ![Sodalite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/34f0e0/32.png) [@Sodalite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sodalite)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2016, 9:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-muppets-new-show-on-abc/732209/163 "2016-05-16T09:53:56Z")

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> [@DKW](#):
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> (Where have you gone, Homestar Runner?)

To [Disney XD](https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLg6R6yXKSLYDm2piDZL8n22qlt_olZUeJ) more or less. The Brothers Chaps are producing weekly shorts for them now.

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**Author:** ![Hermione](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/cdc98d/32.png) [@Hermione](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hermione)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2016, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-muppets-new-show-on-abc/732209/164 "2016-05-16T15:40:05Z")

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> [@AngelSoft](#):
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> Nooooo ☹ Poor Muppets…they’ll never know the joy of their golden years again…

They might if they try to recapture the old variety-show format, or even a sketch-comedy show. One of my favorite aspects of the old Muppet Show was the variety of music they did and their interpretations of it. (If Viking pigs singing “In The Navy” is wrong, I don’t want to be right.)

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