# The Myron Cope Memorial Steelers March to the Super Bowl Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-myron-cope-memorial-steelers-march-to-the-super-bowl-thread/459116>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [August 7, 2008, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-myron-cope-memorial-steelers-march-to-the-super-bowl-thread/459116 "2008-08-07T02:23:26Z")\
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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2008, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-myron-cope-memorial-steelers-march-to-the-super-bowl-thread/459116/81 "2008-09-16T15:44:04Z")

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> [@RyJae](#):
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> [http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/news/2000/10/01/steelers\_jaguars\_ap/](http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/news/2000/10/01/steelers_jaguars_ap/)
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> > The Steelers (1-3) withstood a blocked punt, a kickoff that went out of bounds to give Jacksonville the ball at its 40, and three turnovers – one of them on a fumble charged to receiver **Plaxico Burress** , who spiked the ball at the end of a 19-yard pass play.
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> > The rookie stumbled and fell to the ground without being touched by a defensive player. When Burress got up and slammed the ball to the ground, Jacksonville’s **Danny Clark** scooped it up and ran it back 44 yards.

Hey, those guys are teammates this year.

> [@Airman Doors](#):
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> Plexiglass

Even when he was a Steeler I always thought this insult reflected very poorly on the people who used it. It would be like trying to insult somebody by calling them Kevlar.

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**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2008, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-myron-cope-memorial-steelers-march-to-the-super-bowl-thread/459116/82 "2008-09-16T15:53:39Z")

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> [@EllisDee](#):
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> Even when he was a Steeler I always thought this insult reflected very poorly on the people who used it. It would be like trying to insult somebody by calling them Kevlar.

It was more a comment on how impenetrable he is. He is astonishingly vacant.

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**Author:** ![Cowboy8467](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b5e925/32.png) [@Cowboy8467](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cowboy8467)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2008, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-myron-cope-memorial-steelers-march-to-the-super-bowl-thread/459116/83 "2008-09-16T20:06:58Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> I agree with this statement.

Negative, the Cowboys did recover the ball but they didn’t have a chance to take possession because the Ref had already called it a touchdown, thereby making the ball dead no matter what. Adam Jones actually picked up the ball and started to run it back but realized it was pointless since the Refs had already signaled for a touchdown. Kind of similar to what happened between SD and Denver with an early whistle. Ergo, Cowboys are in fact bright 😃

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> Next came Jackson’s early celebration of a long touchdown. The Cowboys challenged and, with all the extra cameras for a Monday night game, officials easily found an angle that showed him letting go too soon. Using similar logic to the controversial fumble-whistled-dead in the Broncos-Chargers game Sunday, the ball was put at the 1 and Westbrook scored on the next play.

[http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/recap?game\_id=29559&displayPage=tab\_recap&season=2008&week=REG2&override=true](http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/recap?game_id=29559&displayPage=tab_recap&season=2008&week=REG2&override=true)

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2008, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-myron-cope-memorial-steelers-march-to-the-super-bowl-thread/459116/84 "2008-09-16T20:14:05Z")

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> [@Cowboy8467](#):
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> Negative, the Cowboys did recover the ball but they didn’t have a chance to take possession because the Ref had already called it a touchdown, thereby making the ball dead no matter what.

No, we’re talking about Plax’ brain = DeSean Jackson’s brain, not the Cowboys not picking up the ball.

When I saw the play for the first time I thought he’d just dropped the pass, so I wouldn’t have picked it up either.

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**Author:** ![HongKongFooey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c4cdca/32.png) [@HongKongFooey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HongKongFooey)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2008, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-myron-cope-memorial-steelers-march-to-the-super-bowl-thread/459116/85 "2008-09-21T21:48:46Z")

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6 sacks in the first half :eek:

Ugh! I hope the offense can regroup during half-time. They’re getting so much pressure I don’t think screens or draws are a good option right now to defuse the blitz. I have confidence the D can force some more turnovers though.

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**Author:** ![RyJae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9d8465/32.png) [@RyJae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RyJae)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2008, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-myron-cope-memorial-steelers-march-to-the-super-bowl-thread/459116/86 "2008-09-21T22:44:49Z")

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If the Steelers win this one, they can pull the horseshoe outta the ass because they didn’t do anything to earn it. Wow, just wow crap quality game.

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**Author:** ![RyJae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9d8465/32.png) [@RyJae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RyJae)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2008, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-myron-cope-memorial-steelers-march-to-the-super-bowl-thread/459116/87 "2008-09-21T22:58:12Z")

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Anyone call the cops yet?

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**Author:** ![Khadaji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Khadaji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khadaji)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2008, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-myron-cope-memorial-steelers-march-to-the-super-bowl-thread/459116/88 "2008-09-21T23:38:32Z")

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A thoroughly discouraging game. At first I thought the defense was going to let us down, but they did a respectable job. The offensive line needs a lot of work!

In the first half the Eagles were called for delay of game - on their defense. Can someone explain the call to me?

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**Author:** ![RyJae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9d8465/32.png) [@RyJae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RyJae)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2008, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-myron-cope-memorial-steelers-march-to-the-super-bowl-thread/459116/89 "2008-09-22T00:09:13Z")

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> [@Khadaji](#):
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> A thoroughly discouraging game. At first I thought the defense was going to let us down, but they did a respectable job. The offensive line needs a lot of work!
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> In the first half the Eagles were called for delay of game - on their defense. Can someone explain the call to me?

You in town this week? You didn’t watch last week did you? I blame you for this horrible performance! 😃

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**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2008, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-myron-cope-memorial-steelers-march-to-the-super-bowl-thread/459116/90 "2008-09-22T00:41:11Z")

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Jesus Christ. What the hell was that?

That was perhaps the most embarrassing performance I have ever seen. Ben got crushed, the offense was anemic at best, and how the hell do you ever give up a safety?

At least the defense shut them down most of the game. it’s hard to stop them every time when they have such outstanding field position all the damn time.

Damn. I’m depressed. Monday night the Steelers get the Ratbirds. At least that will be an easy win.

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2008, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-myron-cope-memorial-steelers-march-to-the-super-bowl-thread/459116/91 "2008-09-22T01:31:27Z")

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Don’t get all cocky just yet. The Steelers are a half game behind the first place Ravens in the division. The Ravens defense looks good, and the Steelers o-line looks bad - not a particularly encouraging combination for you guys.

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**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2008, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-myron-cope-memorial-steelers-march-to-the-super-bowl-thread/459116/92 "2008-09-22T01:54:39Z")

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> [@Enginerd](#):
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> Don’t get all cocky just yet. The Steelers are a half game behind the first place Ravens in the division. The Ravens defense looks good, and the Steelers o-line looks bad - not a particularly encouraging combination for you guys.

The Steelers might have played poorly today (and cost me some good money), but the Rats are still banking on a rookie quarterback following a 4-12 season with the same people. It’s not cocky to say that the Ravens are playing way over their heads, nor is it cocky to say that the Ravens will be brought down to earth in relatively short order.

I still think Pittsburgh is a lead-pipe lock for the division, and I’d say that even if I weren’t a Steelers homer.

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**Author:** ![Hawkeyeop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@Hawkeyeop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hawkeyeop)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2008, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-myron-cope-memorial-steelers-march-to-the-super-bowl-thread/459116/93 "2008-09-22T02:03:19Z")

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> [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](#):
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> The Steelers might have played poorly today (and cost me some good money), but the Rats are still banking on a rookie quarterback following a 4-12 season with the same people. It’s not cocky to say that the Ravens are playing way over their heads, nor is it cocky to say that the Ravens will be brought down to earth in relatively short order.
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> I still think Pittsburgh is a lead-pipe lock for the division, and I’d say that even if I weren’t a Steelers homer.

It is also mostly the same players from a team that went 13-3 in 2006, so I think your baseline for them is considerably too low. If the defense bounces back from last year, and so far it looks like it has, the Ravens can win 10 games. I think that could be enough.

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2008, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-myron-cope-memorial-steelers-march-to-the-super-bowl-thread/459116/94 "2008-09-22T02:08:33Z")

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I seem to remember writing off another team that was banking on a rookie qb after a 6-10 season a few years ago. Bit me in the ass good when they won 15 games. No such ting as a lead pipe lock for anything in week 3.

I also remember who handed them their only defeat that year.

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**Author:** ![Khadaji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Khadaji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khadaji)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2008, 11:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-myron-cope-memorial-steelers-march-to-the-super-bowl-thread/459116/95 "2008-09-22T11:12:06Z")

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> [@RyJae](#):
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> You in town this week? You didn’t watch last week did you? I blame you for this horrible performance! 😃

Indeed. Usually the team I’m watching and rooting for does poorly. Some on this board have tried to tell me it is simply confirmation bias (yeah, right, and horoscopes are fake too) but I know it is a real phenomenon.

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**Author:** ![HongKongFooey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c4cdca/32.png) [@HongKongFooey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HongKongFooey)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2008, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-myron-cope-memorial-steelers-march-to-the-super-bowl-thread/459116/96 "2008-09-23T02:13:18Z")

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> [@Khadaji](#):
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> In the first half the Eagles were called for delay of game - on their defense. Can someone explain the call to me?

I didn’t see the replay but usually a delay-of-game on the defense is called when one of the defensive players flinches or does something to try and induce a false start from the offensive players.

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2008, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-myron-cope-memorial-steelers-march-to-the-super-bowl-thread/459116/97 "2008-09-23T02:21:44Z")

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Based on yesterday’s game, I think we now have the definitive answer as to why Tomlin didn’t attempt a field goal the week before. He just doesn’t like to kick field goals, period. Down by 9, 4th & 10 inside the opponent’s 30 with under a minute left in the game and no timeouts, and he _still_ didn’t kick a FG.

Not his best moment.

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**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2008, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-myron-cope-memorial-steelers-march-to-the-super-bowl-thread/459116/98 "2008-09-23T02:36:58Z")

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> [@EllisDee](#):
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> Based on yesterday’s game, I think we now have the definitive answer as to why Tomlin didn’t attempt a field goal the week before. He just doesn’t like to kick field goals, period. Down by 9, 4th & 10 inside the opponent’s 30 with under a minute left in the game and no timeouts, and he _still_ didn’t kick a FG.
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> Not his best moment.

If anything, they should have kicked it on 1st down. A little unconventional, sure, but you need a TD and a FG anyway, plus recovering the onside kick, so why not get the FG as soon as possible and hope that you can recover or at worst get it back with at least a little time left? (I don’t remember how much time would have been left if they had kicked it on 1st down, as I was concentrating on the Broncos game on the radio and not the lousy Steelers-Eagles game on TV. )

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2008, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-myron-cope-memorial-steelers-march-to-the-super-bowl-thread/459116/99 "2008-09-23T03:50:14Z")

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> [@asterion](#):
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> (I don’t remember how much time would have been left if they had kicked it on 1st down, as I was concentrating on the Broncos game on the radio and not the lousy Steelers-Eagles game on TV. )

Pittsburgh called timeout after getting a 1st down in FG range at the 22 with 1:26 left on the clock and one timeout remaining. I absolutely agree they should have kicked the FG right then.

Instead they ran four plays – spending their final timeout – and turned it over on downs with 37 seconds left in the game.

EDIT: Taken from the [play by play](http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/playbyplay?game_id=29573&displayPage=tab_play_by_play&season=2008&week=REG3).

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**Author:** ![RyJae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9d8465/32.png) [@RyJae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RyJae)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2008, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-myron-cope-memorial-steelers-march-to-the-super-bowl-thread/459116/100 "2008-09-30T01:11:14Z")

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Stomp some Ravens!

ETA: I need to shut up I say that and Ben throws the INT. :mad:

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