# The myth of good guys & bad guys

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-myth-of-good-guys-bad-guys/839946>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [September 9, 2019, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-myth-of-good-guys-bad-guys/839946 "2019-09-09T18:30:10Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 3\
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**Author:** ![puddleglum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puddleglum/32/137_2.png) [@puddleglum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puddleglum)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2019, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-myth-of-good-guys-bad-guys/839946/21 "2019-09-10T19:51:19Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> The aphorism is wrong in both directions. Bad guys with guns are often stopped without a good guy with a gun, and often, a good guy with a gun isn’t a way to stop a bad guy with a gun.
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> In actual fact, we know what stops bad guys with guns. Gun control works, everywhere it’s ever been used. If you’re not proposing gun control, then you’re not actually trying to stop bad guys with guns.

Did it work in Venezuela?

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2019, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-myth-of-good-guys-bad-guys/839946/22 "2019-09-10T20:35:02Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> The aphorism is wrong in both directions. Bad guys with guns are often stopped without a good guy with a gun, and often, a good guy with a gun isn’t a way to stop a bad guy with a gun.
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> In actual fact, we know what stops bad guys with guns.

The Positive Gun News thread is full of examples of what stops bad guys with guns. And often it is a good guy with a gun.

> [@](#):
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> If you’re not proposing gun control, then you’re not actually trying to stop bad guys with guns.

If that were true, the Positive Gun News thread would not exist, because it gives examples of actually stopping bad guys (some with guns) and is not proposing gun control.

So, often, a bad guy with a gun is stopped without a good guy with a gun, and, often, a good guy with a gun isn’t a way to stop a bad guy with a gun, and, often, a good guy with a gun is a way to stop a bad guy, sometimes with a gun and sometimes without.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2019, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-myth-of-good-guys-bad-guys/839946/23 "2019-09-10T21:02:37Z")

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Hollywood.  
It’s _aaaaall_ Hollywood, baby.

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