# The Nahployment 'Crisis'

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nahployment-crisis/941117>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [April 30, 2021, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nahployment-crisis/941117 "2021-04-30T19:07:24Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 30

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![swampspruce](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/swampspruce/32/261_2.png) [@swampspruce](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/swampspruce)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2021, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nahployment-crisis/941117/583 "2021-05-16T23:04:33Z")

</div>

Burying them all would be a good start…

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2021, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nahployment-crisis/941117/584 "2021-05-16T23:17:28Z")

</div>

😱!

[![Imgur](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51031688668_89ef05329b_z.jpg "2021-03-13\_08-50-18") ](https://www.flickr.com/photos/68782016@N08/51031688668/)

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![lum\_s\_husband](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lum_s_husband/32/3698_2.png) [@lum\_s\_husband](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lum_s_husband)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2021, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nahployment-crisis/941117/585 "2021-05-16T23:38:02Z")

</div>

As if economists could get laid.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2021, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nahployment-crisis/941117/586 "2021-05-16T23:38:57Z")

</div>

🤣 😂 🤣 😂🏆

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2021, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nahployment-crisis/941117/587 "2021-05-16T23:44:21Z")

</div>

> [@octopus](#):
>
> Anyways, I just find it odd that Marx and JFK would be considered heartless conservatives based on their expectation that folks participate in society and don’t just take from society.

If Marx were living today  
He’d be rolling around in his grave

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![swampspruce](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/swampspruce/32/261_2.png) [@swampspruce](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/swampspruce)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2021, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nahployment-crisis/941117/588 "2021-05-17T01:22:12Z")

</div>

Present company excluded of course. 😁

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![carnut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnut/32/3531_2.png) [@carnut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnut)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2021, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nahployment-crisis/941117/589 "2021-05-17T02:21:38Z")

</div>

> [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](#):
>
> If Marx were living today  
> He’d be rolling around in his grave

Umm, why would he be in his grave if he was living? 😉

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2021, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nahployment-crisis/941117/590 "2021-05-17T02:25:10Z")

</div>

> [@D\_Anconia](#):
>
> Do you agree with his quoted statement?

If you think Marxism is just that statement, you don’t understand Marxism. It’s as if you’ve tried to claim someone is a Nazi because they like freeways.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2021, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nahployment-crisis/941117/591 "2021-05-17T04:27:37Z")

</div>

In an attempt to get out I’d suppose.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2021, 7:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nahployment-crisis/941117/592 "2021-05-17T07:23:05Z")

</div>

> [@its\_the\_daddy](#):
>
> Of course they are. Just pick one you like.

So, an arbitrary pick?

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![tofor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tofor/32/13727_2.png) [@tofor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tofor)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2021, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nahployment-crisis/941117/593 "2021-06-07T17:08:22Z")

</div>

> [@Smapti](#):
>
> I guess Luke the Apostle must have stolen it from him, then.

> [@slash2k](#):
>
> For example, do you consider St. Luke to have been a Marxist when he expressed the same idea? Why or why not?

Luke described a small number of people united in belief freely and voluntarily giving of their possessions for the good of that group in a manifestly unsustainable manner (they were selling their land and houses). This was not even described as being a general state of believers, only as an extraordinary thing that happened in one place at one time.

This is hardly the same as advocating for any kind of government policy. There is nothing in current US law (nor, likely, anywhere else) that prevents such a thing from being done again.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![its\_the\_daddy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/bb73d2/32.png) [@its\_the\_daddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/its_the_daddy)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2021, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nahployment-crisis/941117/594 "2021-06-07T18:08:39Z")

</div>

> [@lum\_s\_husband](#):
>
> As if economists could get laid.

My wife did!

> [@MrDibble](#):
>
> So, an arbitrary pick?

Make yourself at home. Kick the cat…

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2021, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nahployment-crisis/941117/595 "2021-06-15T23:35:23Z")

</div>

Personal update: Sophia is gainfully employed, making $16/hour + tips at Maman’s NYC, a cafe/bakery/restaurant. She also gets health insurance, a retirement plan, and PTO. Living in NYC, financially self-sufficient at age 19… quite proud of my kid.

> **[Maman](https://mamannyc.com/)**
>
> Maman is a café, bakery, restaurant and event space. Maman's menu highlights childhood favorites from the south of france and north america. In addition to our cafés and restaurant space, we also have a co-retail store, marché maman which brings...

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nahployment-crisis/941117/596 "2021-06-16T00:00:02Z")

</div>

Congratulations !🎉🎊 from the looks of the menu I hope she sends home care boxes of pastries!

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Saintly\_Loser](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saintly_loser/32/4045_2.png) [@Saintly\_Loser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saintly_Loser)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nahployment-crisis/941117/597 "2021-06-16T03:16:46Z")

</div>

> An Ordinance of Labourers was passed by a parliament in 1349, forbidding employers to pay more for labour than they had before the pestilence. The same Act deemed that it was illegal for an unemployed man to refuse work. The measures were not realistic. . . . More than enough work was available.

_Foundation: the History of England From its Earliest Beginnings to the Tudors_, by Peter Ackroyd.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![dummygladhands71](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c0e974/32.png) [@dummygladhands71](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dummygladhands71)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nahployment-crisis/941117/598 "2021-06-16T03:40:31Z")

</div>

Went into my local quasi-organic grocery the other day, picked up maybe 6 items, heading to check out and shit, self-checkout machines. Nope. Went to the one line that was open. Young lady was busting it to keep it moving. When I got up to her she apologized like mad for the wait. “Not your fault hon, this is on management.”  
“Right?” with that cute way kids say yes today. She was quitting. She’d begged for 40 hours, couldn’t get more than 24 and it wasn’t worth it to drive up from her house for 4 6hr. shifts.  
Boyond over people saying people don’t want to work.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 7:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nahployment-crisis/941117/599 "2021-06-16T07:08:42Z")

</div>

It isn’t that people don’t want to work; people want to prosper.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 7:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nahployment-crisis/941117/600 "2021-06-16T07:20:40Z")

</div>

> [@dummygladhands71](#):
>
> Boyond over people saying people don’t want to work.

Is it on management when nobody shows up for the interviews?

~Max

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 10:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nahployment-crisis/941117/601 "2021-06-16T10:45:14Z")

</div>

> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
>
> It isn’t that people don’t want to work; people want to prosper.

^ This.

Got a raise last week, $0.50 an hour, without even asking. They had to, to keep people working. There’s a bit of a bidding war going on with retail labor.

On the other hand, I hear Walmart has entirely done away with cashiers, it’s solely self-serve lanes right now. Um, good luck with that, guys, based on our experience theft is going to go way up with those.

We hire people, they quit, we hire more people, they quit - why I’m not entirely sure, I’m sure it’s a handful of reasons from “can’t be arsed to get there on time” to “a few cents more an hour” to "oh, gosh, I have to actually do something?" to Og knows what else.

Meanwhile, those left are more and more overburdened.

The only thing that really gets me down, or even is frightening sometimes, are the assholes who take out their frustrations on the staff that is present. Don’t yell at us, we have no control over this situation, either. And for Og’s sake don’t stand there arguing holding up the line! You’re just making the situation worse when you do that!

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Saintly\_Loser](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saintly_loser/32/4045_2.png) [@Saintly\_Loser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saintly_Loser)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nahployment-crisis/941117/602 "2021-06-16T13:24:04Z")

</div>

> [@Max\_S](#):
>
> Is it on management when nobody shows up for the interviews?

Well, yes, if management isn’t offering sufficiently attractive compensation.

[Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nahployment-crisis/941117.md?page=29)

[Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nahployment-crisis/941117.md?page=31)
