# The Nahployment 'Crisis' **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [April 30, 2021, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nahployment-crisis/941117 "2021-04-30T19:07:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 50
**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2021, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nahployment-crisis/941117/984 "2021-10-13T18:03:16Z")
> [@Crafter\_Man](#): > > Almost all of my conservative friends are against employer-mandated vaccines, and support **laws** that prohibit employers from enacting them. Out of curiosity, are those conservative friends also trumpies? Most of my conservative friends hate trump and have gotten vaccinated themselves and don’t want the government interfering with how business work with their employees. While I wouldn’t say there is support amongst them for employees mandates they are more against the government interfering. There seems to be a widening gap between pro-business conservatives and trumpies on a variety of issues ---
**Author:** ![Crafter\_Man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crafter_man/32/458_2.png) [@Crafter\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crafter_Man)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2021, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nahployment-crisis/941117/985 "2021-10-13T18:27:56Z")
Good point. and yes, they’re Trumpies. They call themselves “conservative,” but I don’t think they understand what true conservatism means. ---
**Author:** ![Aspidistra](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspidistra/32/3894_2.png) [@Aspidistra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspidistra)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2021, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nahployment-crisis/941117/986 "2021-10-13T23:25:01Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Sophia had profiles on multiple sites and people were throwing money at her, as a 19yo white female. Do they take her word for that? If it’s true that you can do better on those sites by being of the right demographic then I presume that as soon as this is widely known their data will start to become useless ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2021, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nahployment-crisis/941117/987 "2021-10-14T01:01:38Z")
> [@Oredigger77](#): > > There seems to be a widening gap between pro-business conservatives and trumpies on a variety of issues Yep. Trumpies contain members of the old Pat Buchanan/Ross Perot blue collar coalition. As a group, they are populists, not conservatives. Some of them are ex-Democrats, as in the Perot coalition. Some on the right are ‘pro business’. But many others, including me, are ‘Pro market’, which is a very different thing. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2021, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nahployment-crisis/941117/988 "2021-10-14T01:39:12Z")
> [@Aspidistra](#): > > Do they take her word for that? > > If it’s true that you can do better on those sites by being of the right demographic then I presume that as soon as this is widely known their data will start to become useless Have no idea. She is a 19yo white female, however. She just had logins at multiple sites ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2021, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nahployment-crisis/941117/989 "2021-10-14T02:15:44Z")
> [@Voyager](#): > > So it seems the vast majority of workers would rather be vaccinated than be out on the street. That’s what we’re finding out at my office. The majority of those who threatened to quit have since gotten their vaccinations. Nor have we gotten as many petitions for religious exemptions we expected to receive. In fact, one employee who withdrew their religious exemption and got the vaccine which was quite a surprise as she had earlier expressed a “deeply held religious conviction” against getting the vaccine. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2021, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nahployment-crisis/941117/990 "2021-10-14T02:54:02Z")
Where I live, it seems that full-body tattoos are a REQUIREMENT for a job. Back when I was job-hunting, more than once I was told, “You should put on some temporary tattoos and fake body piercings, and go apply for a job, just to see what would happen.” I’m so glad I’m self-employed. ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2021, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nahployment-crisis/941117/991 "2021-10-14T16:05:29Z")
> [@Aspidistra](#): > > If it’s true that you can do better on those sites by being of the right demographic then I presume that as soon as this is widely known their data will start to become useless I don’t think that follows - those sites want to know what 19-yo white females want, so more data is better. Now, if a lot of that desired demographic starts showing up the price they for them may go down, but that is a different issue. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2021, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nahployment-crisis/941117/992 "2021-10-14T16:08:48Z")
I think the implication was people _lying_ to say they are a valued demographic. My kid didn’t lie, she just signed up to multiple survey/marketing sites as herself. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2021, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nahployment-crisis/941117/993 "2021-10-14T17:50:02Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > I think the implication was people _lying_ to say they are a valued demographic. Speaking as a 19-yo white female, I’m offended at the notion that you think I might lie about that just to make money! What was that URL again? ---
**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2021, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nahployment-crisis/941117/994 "2021-10-14T20:19:36Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > Speaking as a 19-yo white female _join date says 2002… 2021-2002=19… hmm…_ ~Max ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2021, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nahployment-crisis/941117/995 "2021-10-14T20:27:48Z")
> [@Max\_S](#): > > _join date says 2002… 2021-2002=19… hmm…_ > > ~Max Who are you going to believe, me, or your lying math? 😡 ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nahployment-crisis/941117/996 "2021-10-15T00:44:23Z")
> [@nearwildheaven](#): > > Where I live, it seems that full-body tattoos are a REQUIREMENT for a job. Back when I was job-hunting, more than once I was told, “You should put on some temporary tattoos and fake body piercings, and go apply for a job, just to see what would happen.” If you’re applying for a position with Whole Foods I think tattoos can only help your candidacy. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nahployment-crisis/941117/997 "2021-10-15T14:26:31Z")
> [@Odesio](#): > > If you’re applying for a position with Whole Foods I think tattoos can only help your candidacy. I don’t think a Harley dealership will hire you without at least one tattoo sleeve. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2021, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nahployment-crisis/941117/998 "2021-10-16T15:57:31Z")
> [@Odesio](#): > > If you’re applying for a position with Whole Foods I think tattoos can only help your candidacy. Some years ago when **DesertStepdaughter** was a teen when we came to Phoenix to see the family at Christmas she got a Tower Records gift card.\* I took her to a local store to cash it in and as we were leaving she said, “Well that settles it – there are no freaky people in [Ahwatukee](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahwatukee,_Phoenix#Demographics). Not on tattoo on either the workers or any customers.” \*Shows how long ago this was. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2021, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nahployment-crisis/941117/999 "2021-10-20T17:24:08Z")
…and they’re not gonna take it anymore! > **[Workers fed up with nights, weekends seek flexible schedules](https://apnews.com/article/business-lifestyle-new-york-306596169aed48d6d7bebe351ce51ad0)** > > NEW YORK (AP) — After struggling to hire workers for its outlet store in Dallas, Balsam Hill finally opened on Sept. 1. But the very next day, the online purveyor of high-end artificial holiday trees was forced to close after four of its five workers... ---
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2021, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nahployment-crisis/941117/1000 "2021-10-20T19:04:05Z")
Geez, why didn’t someone think of this sooner? “But more importantly, it changed its approach: Instead of only focusing on the needs of the business, it’s now closely working with each employee to tailor their schedules based on when they want to work.” E.g. just not requiring weekends ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2021, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nahployment-crisis/941117/1001 "2021-10-20T19:07:05Z")
> **[Best Artificial Christmas Trees 2022 | Balsam Hill](https://www.balsamhill.com/c/best-selling-artificial-christmas-trees)** > > Shop our best selling artificial Christmas trees and decor to make your holiday season magical. Browse these lifelike trees, and get free shipping today. Check out the prices. These fuckers can’t pay better? ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2021, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nahployment-crisis/941117/1002 "2021-10-20T19:12:52Z")
Local pizza place forced to close on Sunday due to lack of staff. They seem to be doing the right thing by at least raising wages to $18 > And yet when you scroll through their Twitter, they seem to blame everyone else for their problems. In particular, this gem where they blame customers for being upset with the slow service. > ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2021, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nahployment-crisis/941117/1003 "2021-10-20T19:17:28Z")
> [@dalej42](#): > > Local pizza place forced to close on Sunday due to lack of staff. They seem to be doing the right thing by at least raising wages to $18 - It’s not “doing the right thing” when they’ve run out of all the other “fuck the workers” options first. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nahployment-crisis/941117.md?page=49) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nahployment-crisis/941117.md?page=51)