# The Nancy Pelosi appreciation thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 17, 2019, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907 "2019-01-17T01:42:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907/241 "2019-01-29T03:05:57Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > A good chunk of his base apparently wants him to, if we can believe the interviews on NPR today. One woman grumbled that Pelosi and her Democratic caucus were “smartasses with college degrees”. :smack: Why are these people allowed to vote again? Let’s take away their fucking subsidies. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907/242 "2019-01-29T03:08:42Z")
Cracker ass mother fucking SDMB moderators fuck off! ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907/243 "2019-01-29T03:42:13Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > Cracker ass mother fucking SDMB moderators fuck off! Huh? You ok? (I’m off to see if you opened an ATMB thread on moderation issues…) ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907/244 "2019-01-29T03:54:11Z")
> [@digs](#): > > Huh? > You ok? (I’m off to see if you opened an ATMB thread on moderation issues…) Since **Huey Freeman** got banned, apparently he’s decided to go the route of ritual seppuku with Mod assistance. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907/245 "2019-01-29T12:35:03Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > A good chunk of his base apparently wants him to, if we can believe the interviews on NPR today. One woman grumbled that Pelosi and her Democratic caucus were “smartasses with college degrees”. :smack: Why are these people allowed to vote again? Well, thump has a college degree, so there! 'Course his was bought and paid for. Not like he went to class or learned anything. > [@El\_Kabong](#): > > Since **Huey Freeman** got banned, apparently he’s decided to go the route of ritual seppuku with Mod assistance. Someone take away his sword, please. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907/246 "2019-01-29T13:14:44Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Well, thump has a college degree, so there! 'Course his was bought and paid for. Not like he went to class or learned anything. > > Someone take away his sword, please. :rolleyes: They did. (Mandatory cooling-off period, I believe). ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907/247 "2019-01-29T13:41:29Z")
> [@JKellyMap](#): > > They did. (Mandatory cooling-off period, I believe). Yeah, I saw. I can’t help myself. I like the guy. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907/248 "2019-01-29T15:02:12Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Yeah, I saw. I can’t help myself. I like the guy. Yeah, me too, but jeez Louise, he sure is excitable. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907/249 "2019-01-29T15:27:43Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > Yeah, me too, but jeez Louise, he sure is excitable. True. And he sometimes bit the hand that was trying to befriend him. Reminds me of a savvy feral cat I used to know. (I’ll see you at the Rainbow Bridge, Bigfoot. I expect you not to bite me.) ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_McQwark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4da419/32.png) [@Steve\_McQwark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_McQwark)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907/250 "2019-01-29T15:45:00Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > A good chunk of his base apparently wants him to, if we can believe the interviews on NPR today. One woman grumbled that Pelosi and her Democratic caucus were “smartasses with college degrees”. :smack: Why are these people allowed to vote again? As opposed to the dumbasses with college degrees from Trump university in the Republican base? ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2019, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907/251 "2019-02-16T01:06:30Z")
[Nancy Pelosi To GOP: A Democratic President Could Declare National Emergency On Guns](https://www.yahoo.com/news/nancy-pelosi-gop-democratic-president-231924926.html) Now THIS is some first class bitch! She just hit conservatives with their greatest fear — that \ the \*\*\*liberals \*\*\*will come to take their guns away! MUUUUHAHAHAHAHA!! Fuck taking the high ground. Go for those nuts girrrrrrl. ---
**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2019, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907/252 "2019-02-16T01:28:43Z")
My first thought was that it was a bad move, that it would backfire and scare guns-rights people in the 2020 election from voting for a Dem, but I think that ship already has all the cargo it will ever have. Every My-gun-is-my-penis single issue voter is long past mattering, and their numbers aren’t growing these days, so what the hell. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2019, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907/253 "2019-02-16T01:38:22Z")
> [@wolfman](#): > > My first thought was that it was a bad move, that it would backfire and scare guns-rights people in the 2020 election from voting for a Dem, but I think that ship already has all the cargo it will ever have. Every My-gun-is-my-penis single issue voter is long past mattering, and their numbers aren’t growing these days, so what the hell. No one cares about the 5 million or so NRA members. The issue is the other 95 Million gun owner voters. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2019, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907/254 "2019-02-16T01:50:21Z")
Speaking as one of them, I welcome absolute draconian gun control in this country. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2019, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907/255 "2019-02-16T02:25:49Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > Speaking as one of them, I welcome absolute draconian gun control in this country. As one of which? 😕 Gun owners? You would be Ok for them to confiscate your gun without recompense? ---
**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2019, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907/256 "2019-02-16T02:33:28Z")
Confiscating would likely be unconstitutional. However the constitution make no guarantees about allowing the manufacturing or public sale of guns, which could be shut down by executive order in a national emergency. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2019, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907/257 "2019-02-16T04:26:25Z")
> [@wolfman](#): > > My first thought was that it was a bad move, that it would backfire and scare guns-rights people in the 2020 election from voting for a Dem, but I think that ship already has all the cargo it will ever have. Every My-gun-is-my-penis single issue voter is long past mattering, and their numbers aren’t growing these days, so what the hell. I’m with DrDeth, and with your original impulse. Pelosi was too eager to score a debating point here, and didn’t stop to consider how this could reverberate for literally years. We’ll never know for sure, but this crack could shave a point or two (enough to make a difference in many cases) off Democratic vote totals for the next several cycles. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2019, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907/258 "2019-02-16T05:29:13Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > Speaking as one of them, I welcome absolute draconian gun control in this country. > [@DrDeth](#): > > As one of which? 😕 Gun owners? You would be Ok for them to confiscate your gun without recompense? > [@wolfman](#): > > My first thought was that it was a bad move, that it would backfire and scare guns-rights people in the 2020 election from voting for a Dem, but I think that ship already has all the cargo it will ever have. Every My-gun-is-my-penis single issue voter is long past mattering, and their numbers aren’t growing these days, so what the hell. > [@SlackerInc](#): > > I’m with DrDeth, and with your original impulse. Pelosi was too eager to score a debating point here, and didn’t stop to consider how this could reverberate for literally years. We’ll never know for sure, but this crack could shave a point or two (enough to make a difference in many cases) off Democratic vote totals for the next several cycles. :smack: Only if confiscation was the plan, what Nancy Pelosi said was: > [@](#): > > “You want to talk about a national emergency?” Pelosi said. “Let’s talk about today, the one-year anniversary of another manifestation of the epidemic of gun violence in America. That’s a national emergency.” And what was proposed back then? [https://www.cnn.com/2017/10/02/politics/bipartisan-gun-control-policies-majorities/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2017/10/02/politics/bipartisan-gun-control-policies-majorities/index.html) > [@](#): > > Broad majorities of more than eight in 10 Republicans and Democrats (and independents who lean toward each party) support blocking people who are mentally ill and people on federal no-fly or watch lists from buying guns. AFAIK a lot of that is still not coming up for a vote, so emergency it may be for a future Democratic president. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2019, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907/259 "2019-02-16T06:15:49Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > Only if confiscation was the plan, what Nancy Pelosi said was: > > And what was proposed back then? > > [https://www.cnn.com/2017/10/02/politics/bipartisan-gun-control-policies-majorities/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2017/10/02/politics/bipartisan-gun-control-policies-majorities/index.html) > > AFAIK a lot of that is still not coming up for a vote, so emergency it may be for a future Democratic president. “Broad majorities of more than eight in 10 Republicans and Democrats (and independents who lean toward each party) support blocking people who are mentally ill and people on federal no-fly or watch lists from buying guns.” Which the ACLU opposes. Not talking the NRA- the **AC** fucking **LU**. And you know why? There’s no\*\* due process\*\*. The No Fly list is especially egregious. It takes almost nothing to be put on it, and it’s full of errors and false positives. People who are mentally ill are already blocked. Both of those are complete bullshit. [https://www.aclu.org/know-your-rights/what-do-if-you-think-youre-no-fly-list](https://www.aclu.org/know-your-rights/what-do-if-you-think-youre-no-fly-list) _The public does not know how many people are on the No Fly List, and the criteria for inclusion are so broad and vague that they inevitably ensnare innocent people engaged in First Amendment-protected speech, activity, or association. The process the government has established for people on the No Fly List to challenge their blacklisting is grossly insufficient and violates the Constitution’s due process guarantee. The ACLU and its affiliate in Southern California are challenging that process in court._ > **[The Use of Error-Prone and Unfair Watchlists Is Not the Way to Regulate Guns...](https://www.aclu.org/news/national-security/use-error-prone-and-unfair-watchlists-not-way?redirect=blog%2Fwashington-markup%2Fuse-error-prone-and-unfair-watchlists-not-way-regulate-guns-america)** \*The government contends that it can place Americans on the No Fly List who have never been charged let alone convicted of a crime, on the basis of prediction that they nevertheless pose a threat (which is undefined) of conduct that the government concedes “may or may not occur.” Criteria like these guarantee a high risk of error and it is imperative that the watchlisting system include due process safeguards—which it does not. In the context of the No Fly List, for example, the government refuses to provide even Americans who know they are on the List with the full reasons for the placement, the basis for those reasons, and a hearing before a neutral decision-maker. \* ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2019, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907/260 "2019-02-16T06:27:06Z")
Missing the point as is usual for silly gun extremists. The point was that the draconian solutions like confiscation of guns already accured legally, was not ever in the agenda then. BTW I agree a bit with those items you complain about as being a bit on the bullshit side, but not as you approach it there, a lot of the systems already in place are a joke as many solutions do depend on the information that states are supposed to give voluntarily to the federal government. AFAICR many states make a very bad job on their reporting, sometimes on purpose it seems. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907.md?page=12) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907.md?page=14)