# The Nancy Pelosi appreciation thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 17, 2019, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907 "2019-01-17T01:42:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2019, 6:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907/261 "2019-02-16T06:41:11Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > Missing the point as is usual for silly gun extremists. > > The point was that the draconian solutions like confiscation of guns already accured legally, was not ever in the agenda then. No only stopping people from buying guns without due process or because their name is similar to another name on a secret list, for which you can be put on for being a non-violent protester vs the death penalty, for example. > **[No Fly List](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Fly_List)** > > The No Fly List, maintained by the United States federal government's Terrorist Screening Center (TSC), is one of several lists included in algorithmic rulesets used by government agencies and airlines to decide who to allow to board airline flights. The TSC's No Fly List is a list of people who are prohibited from boarding commercial aircraft for travel within, into, or out of the United States. This list has also been used to divert aircraft away from U.S. airspace that do not have start- o Th... ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2019, 11:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907/262 "2019-02-16T11:56:24Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > No only stopping people from buying guns without due process or because their name is similar to another name on a secret list, for which you can be put on for being a non-violent protester vs the death penalty, for example. > [No Fly List - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Fly_List) What part of 'BTW I agree a bit with those items you complain about as being a bit on the bullshit side" you don’t get? ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2019, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907/263 "2019-02-17T00:35:58Z")
It doesn’t matter what the specifics are. Pelosi should not put a bug in anyone’s ear to “be very afraid of what will happen next time a Democrat is president”. How does that help anything? ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2019, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907/264 "2019-02-17T01:22:48Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > It doesn’t matter what the specifics are. Pelosi should not put a bug in anyone’s ear to “be very afraid of what will happen next time a Democrat is president”. How does that help anything? Oh please! Why must Democrats always be held to a higher standard than Pubbies?? EVERY DAY thump and McConnell say things much more ill-advised and incendiary than this relatively mild statement. Are you gonna get on her case for wearing a tan suit, too?? The woman’s not perfect. She’s not a saint. But apparently Dems HAVE to be to escape petty criticism! :mad: ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2019, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907/265 "2019-02-17T04:11:05Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Oh please! Why must Democrats always be held to a higher standard than Pubbies?? EVERY DAY thump and McConnell say things much more ill-advised and incendiary than this relatively mild statement. Are you gonna get on her case for wearing a tan suit, too?? The woman’s not perfect. She’s not a saint. But apparently Dems HAVE to be to escape petty criticism! :mad: I share your frustration and find it both justified and understandable. But the political/ electoral landscape we’re operating in contains certain realities that we don’t get to ignore. One of them is that sound-bites are a thing that work. Don’t know if you’re from California, but back in 2008 when the State Supreme Court ruled in favor of SSM, there was a big public celebration that in San Francisco. At the celebration, Mayor Gavin Newsom got in front of the crowd and crowed about the victory achieved by the good guys, and the defeat suffered by the bad guys. Part of his crowing was along the lines of _”Get used to it! You lost! You’re going to have to live with it!”_ (not a verbatim quote, but it captures the tone, I think.) Within a couple of months, Prop. 8 was on the ballot for November. And one of the most widely aired radio ads in favor used that exact line from Newsom’s victory speech as its sound bite (it might have made some TV spots, too, but if so, I dodged those). Point being, that statement from Nancy, while it’s completely consistent with an argument for NOBODY supporting the America-hating fuckstick’s declaration, is also completely unnecessary as a point to strengthen that argument, AND it gives the Forces of Evil a sound bite that they can use in 2020. And that’s something that everyone who’s serious about opposing the Forces of Evil needs to avoid doing, frustrations be damned. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2019, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907/266 "2019-02-17T04:58:57Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > I share your frustration and find it both justified and understandable. But the political/ electoral landscape we’re operating in contains certain realities that we don’t get to ignore. One of them is that sound-bites are a thing that work. > > Don’t know if you’re from California, but back in 2008 when the State Supreme Court ruled in favor of SSM, there was a big public celebration that in San Francisco. At the celebration, Mayor Gavin Newsom got in front of the crowd and crowed about the victory achieved by the good guys, and the defeat suffered by the bad guys. Part of his crowing was along the lines of _”Get used to it! You lost! You’re going to have to live with it!”_ (not a verbatim quote, but it captures the tone, I think.) > > Within a couple of months, Prop. 8 was on the ballot for November. And one of the most widely aired radio ads in favor used that exact line from Newsom’s victory speech as its sound bite (it might have made some TV spots, too, but if so, I dodged those). > … Yep, I remember that. Newsom, that weasel , set gay rights back several years by that sound bite. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2019, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907/267 "2019-02-17T05:44:07Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Oh please! Why must Democrats always be held to a higher standard than Pubbies?? EVERY DAY thump and McConnell say things much more ill-advised and incendiary than this relatively mild statement. Are you gonna get on her case for wearing a tan suit, too?? The woman’s not perfect. She’s not a saint. But apparently Dems HAVE to be to escape petty criticism! :mad: We should NOT look at what the GOP does and take it as an excuse to descend anywhere close to their level. Also, what Kaylasdad said. This was an unforced error, which is very surprising coming from Pelosi. You are acting like I’m a Pelosi hater in general, which is weird given that my first post in this thread was: > [@SlackerInc](#): > > Pelosi is awesome, and I’ve long been mystified, and frustrated, that she hasn’t gotten more credit as a trailblazer (and extremely effective Speaker). We still haven’t had a woman president, and that’s not right; but we’ve had a female Speaker and now have one again, and that’s a HUGE deal. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2019, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907/268 "2019-02-17T22:07:08Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > We should NOT look at what the GOP does and take it as an excuse to descend anywhere close to their level. Also, what Kaylasdad said. This was an unforced error, which is very surprising coming from Pelosi. You are acting like I’m a Pelosi hater in general, which is weird given that my first post in this thread was: I don’t think you are a Pelosi hater. But I also don’t think what she said constitutes “descending anywhere close to their [Pubbies’] level,” that level being the bottom of a cesspool. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2019, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907/269 "2019-02-18T00:34:26Z")
And of course, now we find out that even people who are barred from owning guns, still aren’t actually barred. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2019, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907/270 "2019-02-18T13:01:45Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > We should NOT look at what the GOP does and take it as an excuse to descend anywhere close to their level. Also, what Kaylasdad said. This was an unforced error, which is very surprising coming from Pelosi. You are acting like I’m a Pelosi hater in general, which is weird given that my first post in this thread was: I doubt it really matters; it was just a comment to remind Republicans about the hypothetical extension of political behavior that they’ve been encouraging, which is for Trump to take executive action as a way to move around Democrats in congress. As others have said, the gun nutters already believe that the Democrats are out for their guns. There were times when Obama showed restraint in the wake of Sandy Hook and other tragedies, but I think the next president could indeed use this as a precedent to extend executive power. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2019, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907/271 "2019-02-18T14:29:45Z")
I’m not concerned about the gun nutters, but the gun owners who at least sometimes vote Democratic (they do exist!). I notice Bill Maher expressed the same concern about Pelosi’s statement on his show this weekend. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2019, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907/272 "2019-02-18T14:44:59Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > I’m not concerned about the gun nutters, but the gun owners who at least sometimes vote Democratic (they do exist!). > > I notice Bill Maher expressed the same concern about Pelosi’s statement on his show this weekend. It’s an overreaction - nobody’s coming for the guns and Nancy Pelosi’s comments aren’t going to push anyone to vote for or against Democrats who hadn’t already made up their minds. Reasonable gun owners are typically not one-issue voters and if that’s the case then their vote won’t come down to some quote that Nancy Pelosi said in response to what amounts to executive overreach in real life. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 10:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907/273 "2019-05-23T10:08:08Z")
How are Republican pundits and politicians treating/talking about Nancy Pelosi these days? I’m curious about the fact that even though she’s a strong female leader, she doesn’t seem to evoke the visceral scorn and hatred that (for example) Hillary does. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907/274 "2019-05-23T11:53:33Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > How are Republican pundits and politicians treating/talking about Nancy Pelosi these days? I’m curious about the fact that even though she’s a strong female leader, she doesn’t seem to evoke the visceral scorn and hatred that (for example) Hillary does. I think conservatives have directed their attention to what they consider to be softer targets these days, attacking the youth and idealism of congresswomen Ocasio-Cortez, Omar, and Tlaib. Not to mention it’s easier to characterize them as un-American. Not so easy to do with Pelosi. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907/275 "2019-05-23T12:10:51Z")
[Pelosi had a nice exchange with Kellyanne Conway following Donald’s temper tantrum.](https://washingtonpress.com/2019/05/22/pelosi-threw-major-shade-at-kellyanne-conway-to-her-face-after-trump-stormed-out-of-meeting/?fbclid=IwAR1ExDZDl7R2fVtu8XS1qqvUacuskF1xv9yarLp8UIFI95w9WdDwlXJ3om8) > [@](#): > > Josh Dawsey of The Washington Post has revealed a great little anecdote from today’s whirlwind. Apparently, after Trump stomped out of his meeting with Democrats like a petulant child, Trump’s counselor Kellyanne Conway approached Speaker Pelosi and asked her if she’d like to respond to the president’s comments. > > “I’ll respond to the president, not staff,” Pelosi said, making it crystal clear how little she thinks of the vile Conway. > > “Wow, that’s really pro-woman of you,” Conway responded as if the woman who helped elect and continues to serve an avowed sexual predator and accused rapist cares one bit about the welfare of women. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907/276 "2019-05-23T12:16:54Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > [Pelosi had a nice exchange with Kellyanne Conway following Donald’s temper tantrum.](https://washingtonpress.com/2019/05/22/pelosi-threw-major-shade-at-kellyanne-conway-to-her-face-after-trump-stormed-out-of-meeting/?fbclid=IwAR1ExDZDl7R2fVtu8XS1qqvUacuskF1xv9yarLp8UIFI95w9WdDwlXJ3om8) Like I said, Pelosi knows how to push buttons. She knows how to play this game. She’s been playing the game since Conway was in diapers. Conway knows how to be a propagandist and how to get through a CNN interview with Jake Tapper, but she has no idea how to respond, or even how to help the president respond, to someone like Pelosi and her tactics. Few in the cabinet do. She’s a wizard. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907/277 "2019-05-23T18:13:10Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > How are Republican pundits and politicians treating/talking about Nancy Pelosi these days? I’m curious about the fact that even though she’s a strong female leader, she doesn’t seem to evoke the visceral scorn and hatred that (for example) Hillary does. Are you kidding? Pelosi was the [number one Boogie woman of the 2018 election](https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/pelosi-is-the-star-of-gop-attack-ads-worrying-democrats-upbeat-about-midterms/2018/08/09/f85a2474-9b43-11e8-8d5e-c6c594024954_story.html?utm_term=.24a8eadfb0e1). Easily rivaling Clinton for the spot of Evil witch archetype in the GOP’s id. As Asahi said, they have temporarily switched to AOC as a target for the defamation cannon, but its not because they respect Pelosi. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907/278 "2019-05-23T18:46:30Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > Are you kidding? Pelosi was the [number one Boogie woman of the 2018 election](https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/pelosi-is-the-star-of-gop-attack-ads-worrying-democrats-upbeat-about-midterms/2018/08/09/f85a2474-9b43-11e8-8d5e-c6c594024954_story.html?utm_term=.24a8eadfb0e1). Easily rivaling Clinton for the spot of Evil witch archetype in the GOP’s id. As Asahi said, they have temporarily switched to AOC as a target for the defamation cannon, but its not because they respect Pelosi. And AOC is a easier target. She keeps shooting her mouth off without thinking or fact checking (AOC is very smart, but not experienced yet), whereas you will never catch Pelosi in that sort of _faux pas._ ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907/279 "2019-05-23T21:46:54Z")
Pelosi is still rockin’ it! ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907/280 "2019-05-23T22:16:37Z")
She’s rocking it because she understands the game - a lot better than a bunch of fucking millennials who just decided to become interested in politics and thought it would be, like, kewl to run for office. The upstart Democrats defy her at the entire party’s expense, and consequently, at the nation’s expense. Get your school uniform on. Bring your backpacks. Make sure you’ve got pens, pencils, erasers, and notepads, and take some notes. School is in session. Nancy Pelosi is your teacher. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907.md?page=13) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907.md?page=15)