# The Nancy Pelosi appreciation thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 17, 2019, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907 "2019-01-17T01:42:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 33
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2019, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907/641 "2019-06-20T15:16:48Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > It’s brilliant the way that she has handled him. … Makes me think of Muhammed Ali’s famous, “Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee.” Or as Niles Crane rephrased it, “Float like a lepidoptera, sting like a hymenoptera.” > [@](#): > > That’s why when I hear freshmen representatives like AOC and Talib publicly air their frustrations with her I wanna just tell them to shut the hell up. They just got there and she’s been doing this since they were in daycare. This, this, and more this. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2019, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907/642 "2019-06-20T15:33:17Z")
Cosigned. > [@asahi](#): > > Pretty much this. ^ He doesn’t know how to fight her - like at all. He was lashing out at her because he was humiliated. The sting of the comments has worn off, I guess. It’s also important to remember that he is not a disciplined, on-message spinner like Kellyanne. He still has a craving that way predates his political candidate years to go on TV and play the “savvy pundit” role. So if he thinks she has a strong control over her party, even if he wishes otherwise, he has the impulse to show that he knows what’s up. ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2019, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907/643 "2019-06-20T15:33:28Z")
Tom Steyer’s [new impeachment ad](https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1141723726804901893) that will run on ‘Fox & Friends’ in D.C. I think it’s a good idea, although I don’t think it’s a particularly compelling ad. I think the ad would be better just showing video clips, with a voiceover when needed, rather than mainly showing Tom Steyer sitting in a chair talking. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2019, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907/644 "2019-06-20T15:50:07Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Here’s a guy who appreciates our Nancy! > > [**Trump defends Pelosi to Fox News’ Sean Hannity**](https://www.axios.com/trump-defends-pelosi-to-fox-news-sean-hannity-4fe2f45b-2cc0-41ce-be34-6ca480f357e5.html) > > Anyone care to interpret this? > > I think he is afraid of her–in a good way. She won’t be manipulated or messed with. I think its a variation of Rubio’s “Let’s dispel this fiction once and for all that Barack Obama doesn’t know what he’s doing. He knows exactly what he’s doing.” He’s trying to tar Pelosi and the mainstream Democrats to their more radical elements. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2019, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907/645 "2019-06-20T16:13:34Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > I think its a variation of Rubio’s “Let’s dispel this fiction once and for all that Barack Obama doesn’t know what he’s doing. He knows exactly what he’s doing.” He’s trying to tar Pelosi and the mainstream Democrats to their more radical elements. This implies that Trump has guile. Trump is guileless. And too stupid to know the meaning of the word. He has two modes of operation. Either he instinctively & pathologically lies, or, he projects his own unfiltered fears & deep character flaws. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2019, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907/646 "2019-06-20T18:04:29Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > This implies that Trump has guile. Trump is guileless. And too stupid to know the meaning of the word. He has two modes of operation. Either he instinctively & pathologically lies, or, he projects his own unfiltered fears & deep character flaws. Pretty much this. He’s as deep as a paper plate. There’s no \*there \*there. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2019, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907/647 "2019-06-20T20:30:23Z")
Even if we bought into Trump’s guile, Pelosi’s not going to throw him a life preserver. The House is going to continue methodically doing its work - she will see to that. And that will drive Trump insane, and he will do something radical to feed raw meat to his base. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2019, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907/648 "2019-06-20T20:32:58Z")
In a couple years, we may look back at this time as the calm before the mass-shootings storm. :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2019, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907/649 "2019-06-21T18:50:08Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > The only thing keeping me from throwing my hands in the air and abandoning the Democrats during this debacle of deadline after deadline and sternly worded letters is that I accept that Nancy Pelosi has forgotten more about politics than I ever knew, and I’m hoping that her instincts here are better than mine. I’m starting to reconsider my opinion from a month ago. In the three months since the Mueller report, the Democrats have managed to get no fact witnesses to testify, and have enforced no subpoenas. If there is a strategy here, I’m at a loss for what the hell it is. ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2019, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907/650 "2019-06-21T18:58:20Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > I’m starting to reconsider my opinion from a month ago. In the three months since the Mueller report, the Democrats have managed to get no fact witnesses to testify, and have enforced no subpoenas. If there is a strategy here, I’m at a loss for what the hell it is. [Politico](https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/21/hope-hicks-democrats-trump-1374706): > [@](#): > > House Democrats are planning to file a lawsuit within days to force former White House counsel Don McGahn to testify on Capitol Hill — and they say Hope Hicks’ reluctant testimony Wednesday will help deliver them a crucial win in court. > > Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerry Nadler said Hicks’ blanket refusal to tell lawmakers about her tenure in the West Wing is the real-life illustration Democrats needed to show a judge just how extreme the White House’s blockade on witness testimony has become. > > “It very much played into our hands,” Nadler said in an interview in his Capitol Hill office Thursday. “It’s one thing to tell a judge blanket immunity is not a right thing. It’s another thing when a judge can see what that means in actuality, and how absurd it is.” > … > The New York Democrat said he’s confident that a win in the McGahn case would create a precedent that forces the White House to back off its resistance to Democrats’ investigations and permit other key Mueller witnesses, like Hicks, to talk to lawmakers. > > “That court case is key to everything,” Nadler said. ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2019, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907/651 "2019-06-21T19:03:21Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > This implies that Trump has guile. Trump is guileless. And too stupid to know the meaning of the word. I wish people would stop saying things like this. Underestimate your adversary at your own peril. Trump seems to be a narcissist, a bully, an authoritarian, a vulgarian. He is indecisive, a waffler, highly reactive and thin-skinned and no, I don’t think he is a deep thinker or particularly well-educated on…well…most things. But Trump is also con-man and a swindler of a businessman and you don’t succeed at those things unless you have some guile. If he lacks anything, it is probably not that. Native cleverness, animal cunning, the ability to read a room - whatever you want to call it, Trump has that. He is also not an idiot. Brilliant? Hardly. A drooling moron? Not that, either. He’s probably of average or a bit above average intelligence, with many, many blind spots but also some native ability as above. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2019, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907/652 "2019-06-21T19:06:11Z")
Well, he’s proven one thing. He’s above average in intelligence when compared to his supporters. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2019, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907/653 "2019-06-21T21:42:00Z")
> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#): > > [Politico](https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/21/hope-hicks-democrats-trump-1374706): Yes. More things that are planned. Add it to the pile. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2019, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907/654 "2019-06-22T01:39:17Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > Yes. More things that are planned. Add it to the pile. I think we could eventually get there, but I want to see more public support for an impeachment before starting the proceedings. What I don’t want is for him and his supporters to say that the economy was fine until we started impeachment. I mean they’ll say that anyway, but I don’t want him to be able to even remotely make that case to independent voters. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907/655 "2019-07-26T16:42:09Z")
Just look at this wonderful picture. I think the boxing gloves on the dresser are a nice inclusion. > **[U.S. House Speaker Pelosi all smiles after meeting with Ocasio-Cortez](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-congress-pelosi-aoc/pelosi-all-smiles-after-meeting-with-ocasio-cortez-idUSKCN1UL216)** > > U.S. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said she and Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez had no hatchet to bury on Friday, playing down tensions after a meeting between the powerful speaker and freshman lawmaker who in recent months has seized the... (Pelosi/Ocasio-Cortez meeting) ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2019, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907/656 "2019-07-27T13:37:11Z")
“With a month of victories, Pelosi shows who holds the reins in a fractious House” > **[With a month of victories, Pelosi shows who holds the reins in a fractious House](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/with-a-month-of-victories-pelosi-shows-who-holds-the-reins-in-a-fractious-house/2019/07/26/e8fcc16e-afb3-11e9-9411-a608f9d0c2d3_story.html)** > > Democrats began July in a shambles. Now, they are leaving for recess on remarkably better footing, even with the divide over impeachment. > [@](#): > > The House was already well on its way to passing a crucial budget agreement Thursday when Speaker Nancy Pelosi pulled aside Majority Leader Steny H. Hoyer in a hallway outside the chamber. > > Democrats had already cast 216 votes for the bill, Pelosi told Hoyer. But two more votes would send a message: that the party was so united, it could pass a compromise negotiated with President Trump and Republicans with an absolute majority of the House. > > Moments after Hoyer walked onto the floor, three more Democrats voted for the bill — including two members of the liberal “Squad” of newly elected women — vividly demonstrating that despite the frequent turmoil in their ranks, Pelosi and her leadership team stand in firm control of House Democrats. > > Pelosi (D-Calif.) told reporters afterward that she wanted to make a statement about her caucus’s unity, and at a news conference Friday, she held forth on her leadership of a rambunctious group. > > “I consider myself a weaver,” she said, “just at the loom just making all of those threads come together in the boldest possible way.” > … WTG, Nancy! Unity, or at least a show of unity, among Dems is critical right now. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2019, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907/657 "2019-07-27T20:41:07Z")
Nice! ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2019, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907/658 "2019-10-17T20:29:03Z")
It’s that time again! Time to notch another victory for Nancy Pelosi over the Dipshitticus Majoris president. > **[Opinion | Why Trump's Nancy Pelosi "meltdown" tweet backfired so spectacularly](https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/trump-s-nancy-pelosi-meltdown-tweet-was-perfect-self-own-ncna1068301)** > > The White House's photo clearly shows that the last man standing in that room is, in fact, Nancy Pelosi. Look at Pelosi, standing, towering over Trump, wagging her finger at him as though he were a petulant adolescent. It’s almost as if you could write the caption “Widdle Donny, I’m grounding you until your grades improve.” Note how people to Trump’s right have their heads down – ashamed, no doubt. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2019, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907/659 "2019-10-17T20:49:35Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > Note how people to Trump’s right have their heads down – ashamed, no doubt. They have no shame. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2019, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907/660 "2019-10-17T21:04:46Z")
I’d forgotten about this thread! You go, Nancy! Making this the background of her Twitter and Facebook homepages-- pure genius! **[That photograph of Pelosi and Trump is a work of art. Some say it’s a masterpiece.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/that-photograph-of-pelosi-and-trump-is-a-work-of-art-some-say-its-a-masterpiece/2019/10/17/9e536b5e-f0e0-11e9-89eb-ec56cd414732_story.html)** > [@](#): > > If the image of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s White House meeting with President Trump had been a painting, some say it could have been a masterpiece. Something about the symmetry, the light, and the postures of the figures in the room turned ordinary people into art historians who were captivated by the strength of the composition. > > “The juxtaposition of the direction the participants are leaning on opposite sides of the table is a strong dynamic,” rhapsodized one commenter on the Reddit forum called Accidental Renaissance. > > “It’s the detail on all the faces that make it. Like the Last Supper,” wrote another. > … > > There are familiar elements in the image. One is Pelosi’s stance, evocative of imagery found throughout art history. Standing with her right arm outstretched and her finger pointed, it’s an example of the adlocutio pose, which artists often portray heroes and leaders. Think of the famous sculptures and paintings of Augustus Ceasar, Napoleon, and George Washington. Pelosi’s detractors can rightfully argue that the same pose has been used to elevate controversial leaders in propaganda — you’ll find it in images of Chairman Mao and Kim Il-Sung. > > The painting on the wall at the far side of the room, Charles Édouard Armand-Dumaresq’s “The Signing of the Declaration of Independence,” provides an eerie parallel, with several of the founding fathers depicted in the same position as Pelosi. And the figures leaning in on both side give the painting an intensity, with the perfect rows of white-haired men are reminiscent of early American political paintings. A bust of Benjamin Franklin looks on from the right corner. > > “It’s all very stately. There’s a decorum to the image,” said Lipinski. “And that the classical setting is a reference to democracy and the republic and all of the iconography that’s part of our visual environment in the architectuire of Washington, D.C.” > > The balance of the composition, too, is what makes it rather painterly. > … > > It’s also an image with gravitas. Al Acres, chair of the Georgetown University department of art and art history, said the painting’s setting and context make it a clear example of the genre of history painting, which aims to capture definitive moments. > … [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907.md?page=32) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907.md?page=34)