# The Nancy Pelosi appreciation thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 17, 2019, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907 "2019-01-17T01:42:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2019, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907/61 "2019-01-17T18:34:51Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Are the Fox gigglers still calling her Bela Pelosi? A Democrat hasn’t really "arrived’ till they’ve been given a stupid nickname. This is how juvenile the Republicans have become. ---
**Author:** ![Airbeck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/airbeck/32/6574_2.png) [@Airbeck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airbeck)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2019, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907/62 "2019-01-17T18:40:41Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > She probably told the nanny to handle to handle the children. How many times did you get dropped on your head as a child? Wait, are you actually a grown up? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2019, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907/63 "2019-01-17T18:43:13Z")
> [@Airbeck](#): > > How many times did you get dropped on your head as a child? Wait, are you actually a grown up? Actually, he is. Physically. ---
**Author:** ![Jeff\_Lichtman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jeff_lichtman/32/1531_2.png) [@Jeff\_Lichtman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jeff_Lichtman)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2019, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907/64 "2019-01-17T18:43:51Z")
In 1983, when Dianne Feinstein was mayor of San Francisco, local progressives became disenchanted with her leadership and mounted a recall campaign against her. The recall happened a little more than six months before a regular election was scheduled. Progressive groups put a lot of money and effort into the recall, which Feinstein survived. The progressives who had backed the recall found themselves out of money for the general election, and surviving the recall boosted Feinstein’s poll numbers. She won the general election easily. The recall was one of the stupidest political maneuvers I’ve ever seen. The people behind it had no plan. All they knew is that they were angry at Feinstein, and they expressed their anger in a self-destructive manner. For House Democrats to vote for impeachment now would be just as stupid. The purpose of impeachment is to attempt to remove a president from office. It is impossible to remove Trump from office right now, because there aren’t enough votes in the Senate. The Republicans still have a majority there, and they have shown no signs so far of standing up to Trump. He would survive an impeachment, which would boost his popularity and could guarantee his re-election. It would be the political equivalent of The Charge of the Light Brigade. Democrats need to make a case to the American people that Trump is so bad for the country that he shouldn’t be president. This may be obvious to a lot of us, but so far it isn’t obvious to enough of the public that they’re clamoring for Congress to get rid of him. The Democrats have to make a case for it, and they’ve started to do this. Party leaders aren’t just passively waiting for the Mueller investigation to issue a report. They have opened investigations. In particular, Adam Schiff, head of the House Intelligence Committee, has re-opened the investigation of Russian meddling in the 2016 election. If these investigations convince the public to put pressure on Congress to impeach and convict Trump, then it’s time to go ahead and impeach him. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2019, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907/65 "2019-01-17T18:45:05Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > Behold the future of federal legislation. (post shortened) The State of the Union speech is not legislation. The majority of presidents did not even make a speech. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2019, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907/66 "2019-01-17T18:53:18Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > With her current move against having a Republican President speak to the U.S. House, and moves such as making Rep. Maxine Waters, (D-Calif) the head of the House Financial Services Committee, and adding Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, (D-N.Y.) to the same committee, Pelosi has now made it clear that elected Democrats will not be working any elected Republicans for at least the next two years. Maybe Pelosi will change her mind if Republicans would embrace socialism? You got that backwards - it’s the repuke-icans who won’t want to work (well, honestly) with them - kinda like how it’s always been. Did that hurt writing the S word? ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2019, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907/67 "2019-01-17T19:07:38Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > So, I’m not lining up behind her _because she’s the leader_, I’m applauding her leadership. To be fair, Republicans have had panderers and no leaders for so long that they can’t remember what leadership is. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2019, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907/68 "2019-01-17T19:08:28Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > Behold the future of federal legislation. (idiocy snipped) I struggle to believe that anyone can be as stupid as you pretend to be. I’m pretty convinced that this is performance art, or some kind of experiment on your part. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2019, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907/69 "2019-01-17T19:10:09Z")
> [@blindboyard](#): > > She is keeping the government shut down rather than agree to a few billion to extend the existing border barriers. All for political posturing. No, Trump & McConnel are doing that. There was a deal, there was a budget, and Trump went back on it. The issue is that the House sets the budget. It’s there in the Constitution. The President can veto said budget but cant add items. Trump is attempting to subvert the Constitution. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2019, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907/70 "2019-01-17T19:15:21Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > Pelosi just pulled her stunt, do you not understand that it takes about a week for events to start to show their impact in polling? Are you really that fucking stupid? You dont seem to understand that the Government shutdown happened while the GOp still controlled the House and before Pelosi was Speaker. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2019, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907/71 "2019-01-17T19:24:15Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > I struggle to believe that anyone can be as stupid as you pretend to be. > > I’m pretty convinced that this is performance art, or some kind of experiment on your part. No, I think **dorkknob** really is that stupid. Or has a source for drugs the potency of which I haven’t seen since the 60s. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2019, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907/72 "2019-01-17T19:24:54Z")
He did a little too much LDS in the Sixties. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2019, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907/73 "2019-01-17T19:26:38Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > Pelosi just pulled her stunt, do you not understand that it takes about a week for events to start to show their impact in polling? Are you really that fucking stupid? What you and your ilk don’t understand is that Pelosi is pulling stunts like this _instead_ of investigating Trump and pursuing impeachment. She’ll pander to the moderately informed for cheap fund raising and business as usual bullshit, but she won’t take a stand and pursue the removal from office of Trump. Pelosi is smart and experienced. You are neither. BTW, she’s too old to be a Boomer. The first ones were born in 1946; she was born in 1940. This isn’t the only thing about which you’re not well-informed. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2019, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907/74 "2019-01-17T19:28:45Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > I struggle to believe that anyone can be as stupid as you pretend to be. > > I’m pretty convinced that this is performance art, or some kind of experiment on your part. I gave him the benefit of the doubt once, briefly. Learn from my mistake. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2019, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907/75 "2019-01-17T19:36:08Z")
> [@Ravenman](#): > > TLDR **doorhinge** version of the world: bipartisanship was thriving in DC until Mean Ol’ Nancy took over. And you’d be wrong. Bipartisanship was barely limping along in Congress. Now that Pelosi has regained the speakership, she’s made it clear that bipartisanship is dead. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2019, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907/76 "2019-01-17T19:39:26Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > I struggle to believe that anyone can be as stupid as you pretend to be. > > I’m pretty convinced that this is performance art, or some kind of experiment on your part. You seem to struggle with a lot of issues. None of which are my concern. Get well soon. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2019, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907/77 "2019-01-17T19:39:59Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > You dont seem to understand that the Government shutdown happened while the GOp still controlled the House and before Pelosi was Speaker. No shit. What was your first clue? Mine was when the shutdown caused the ending of my state department funded project and I had to lay 50 people off on Christmas Eve. I said she just pulled her SOTU stunt and its impact won’t be felt in the polls for another week. Trump’s approval has been steadily trending down since it started. Pelosi’s stunt about the SOTU speech runs the risk of moving the target off Trump onto her and the Democratic Party. She’s doing her best to allow the GOP to label this the Pelosi shutdown. She is unsuited for taking on this president. She doesn’t understand that Trump presents an existential threat to the United States and will try to manage outrage over him at a slow burn so that she can raise some money for the party and maybe win a House seat here and there. Her letter to Trump about the SOTU speech was a stupid move because she is playing Trump at his own game, he lives for petty bickering over non-issues like this and she handed it to him on a silver platter. Now, instead of talking about what Trump has done, we’re talking about Pelosi’s stupid letter. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2019, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907/78 "2019-01-17T19:54:11Z")
The Atlantic has an excellent case for impeaching Trump that went up today. It also is a pretty solid indictment of Pelosi and the old guard. [Impeach Trump Now - The Atlantic](HTTPS://WWW.THEATLANTIC.COM/MAGAZINE/ARCHIVE/2019/03/IMPEACHMENT-TRUMP/580468/) > [@](#): > > DEMOCRATS PICKED UP 40 seats in the House of Representatives in the 2018 elections. Despite this clear rebuke of Trump—and despite all that is publicly known about his offenses—party elders remain reluctant to impeach him. Nancy Pelosi, the speaker of the House, has argued that it’s too early to talk about impeachment. …. When, on the first day of the 116th Congress, a freshman representative declared her intent to impeach Trump and punctuated her comments with an obscenity, she was chastised by members of the old guard—not just for how she raised the issue, but for raising it at all. ---
**Author:** ![scr4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@scr4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scr4)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2019, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907/79 "2019-01-17T19:56:16Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > Pelosi’s stunt about the SOTU speech runs the risk of moving the target off Trump onto her and the Democratic Party. She’s doing her best to allow the GOP to label this the Pelosi shutdown. I think you’re right that Trump could have turned this to his advantage. But if [this lame retaliation](https://twitter.com/PressSec/status/1085978219872964608) is the best he can come up with after 24 hours, it seems Pelosi was right to take this risk. ---
**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2019, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907/80 "2019-01-17T19:57:55Z")
Sorry (really) about Christmas Eve news–that had to suck balls. Anyone who doesn’t already see a target on Pelosi’s back isn’t going to put one there because of the SOTU kerfuffle. Pelosi may have the discipline to slow burn the outrage, but Trump doesn’t have the temperament to last that long. A couple more victories against him, no matter how petty, and he will come unglued. Even if Pelosi can only play 2 steps ahead of him, that’s still a massive advantage over a guy who can’t even recall his last move. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907.md?page=5)