# The Nancy Pelosi appreciation thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 17, 2019, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907 "2019-01-17T01:42:15Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907/161 "2019-01-25T15:26:57Z")

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Sweet.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907/162 "2019-01-25T22:09:08Z")

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IT IS ALL OVER!!!

Ladies and gentleman, the winner, by submission, NANCY PELOSI!!!

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907/163 "2019-01-25T22:18:07Z")

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> [@madmonk28](#):
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> The problem with Pelosi is that she’ll use her leverage for some stupid small-ball gain. She doesn’t understand the game has completely changed and she’s so fucking old. I’m gen x and I waited my whole life for the boomers to get out of the way and they never fucking did.

So she doesn’t understand that the game has completely changed, eh? Looks to me like she just took Trump down, bent him over her knee, and spanked him good.

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**Author:** ![Aspidistra](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspidistra/32/3894_2.png) [@Aspidistra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspidistra)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907/164 "2019-01-25T22:39:35Z")

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Well done Pelosi. I hope her Congressional colleagues appreciate her.

Of course, Trump is so delusional that he is unlikely to admit he just lost bigtime, and a lot of his followers are suckered in far enough that they’re not going to recognise it either.

Looking forward to an ongoing Pelosi/Trump showdown that goes something like [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AL4cEwzUgdA)

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907/165 "2019-01-25T23:19:34Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> So she doesn’t understand that the game has completely changed, eh? Looks to me like she just took Trump down, bent him over her knee, and spanked him good.

Oh, the dems will have to give in on some borders security spending, and let him say that’s for the wall, but we need to spend more $ down there anyway.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907/166 "2019-01-25T23:38:53Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> And an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope. 😉

I didn’t … expect that … 😃

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907/167 "2019-01-25T23:40:21Z")

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> [@Jeff\_Lichtman](#):
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> When you posted this a week ago today, Trump’s approval rating on [fivethirtyeight.com](http://fivethirtyeight.com) was 40.2%. Right now it’s 39.5%.
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> Any other predictions?

That all depends on which polls you believe -and whether it was “commissioned” by Cohen.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907/168 "2019-01-25T23:42:33Z")

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> [@Ravenman](#):
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> Looks like someone just got tired of so much winning.

They’re turning against each other. Let’s give them guns and it will sort itself all out. We can offer (tater) tots and pears later.

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**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907/169 "2019-01-25T23:45:32Z")

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> [@Aspidistra](#):
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> Of course, Trump is so delusional that he is unlikely to admit he just lost **bigtime** , …

Correction: bigly.

Thank you, Nancy, for not blinking. I was hoping the new congress would be able to blunt il Douche’s stupidity and impulses, and it seems to be working so far.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907/170 "2019-01-25T23:45:34Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> So she doesn’t understand that the game has completely changed, eh? Looks to me like she just took Trump down, bent him over her knee, and spanked him good.

And she didn’t even use a rolled-up magazine with his face on the cover.

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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907/171 "2019-01-25T23:49:34Z")

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WTG, Nancy!

[https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/25/opinions/pelosi-brought-trump-to-his-knees-zelizer/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/25/opinions/pelosi-brought-trump-to-his-knees-zelizer/index.html)

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> Many new members of the House were uncertain about voting for Pelosi to be their leader. She quickly quashed the insurgents. But now, in her first official confrontation with Trump, she has proven her chops to all of them. It is no wonder the President has been so reluctant to tweet about her or give her a demeaning nickname. He has seen his top opponent, and the President is scared.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907/172 "2019-01-25T23:52:55Z")

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> [@SlackerInc](#):
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> WTG, Nancy!
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> [https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/25/opinions/pelosi-brought-trump-to-his-knees-zelizer/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/25/opinions/pelosi-brought-trump-to-his-knees-zelizer/index.html)

I have said that over and over- the GOP and Trump are scared shitless of Pelosi. I am not a huge Pelosi fan, but just that very fact makes me support her.

Of course, powerful women scare them, in general. Their "poster child " for a “powerful woman” is Sarah Palin. Think about that for a minute.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2019, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907/173 "2019-01-26T00:31:15Z")

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It’s only for three weeks. I can’t accept this as a complete win just yet.

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**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2019, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907/174 "2019-01-26T00:35:17Z")

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Amazing - the Speaker backed Individual-1 into a corner - in an Oval Office no less!

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2019, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907/175 "2019-01-26T00:37:37Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> …I am not a huge Pelosi fan, …

TBH I never paid that much attention to her. What makes you “not a fan”?

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**Author:** ![Ulfreida](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ulfreida/32/8014_2.png) [@Ulfreida](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulfreida)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2019, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907/176 "2019-01-26T00:38:38Z")

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> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> It’s only for three weeks. I can’t accept this as a complete win just yet.

But how do you imagine he is going to start this machine up again? “Okay, now that the government is funded again, I WANT MY WALL!” How is that going to fly?

I think he is done and dusted on the wall.

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**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2019, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907/177 "2019-01-26T00:46:10Z")

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Pelosi played a strong hand well. Republicans didn’t want a shutdown. Democrats didn’t want a shutdown. But the Russian representative in the White House wanted a shutdown.

Pelosi stood up to him. This wasn’t really about the border wall. We can afford $5 billion of wasted spending on an unprotected wall to nowhere, which would inevitably be blown up, dug under, and cut through. Trump was offered $25 trillion of wall spending in return for giving permanent protection for the Dreamers -something most Republicans agree with - and he refused. So this wasn’t about the wall.

This controversy was about whether America was willing to stand up to hostage takers. The hostages were the paychecks of 800,000 workers and ultimately the US economy. The US prevailed over the Russian rep, because we are led by Nancy Pelosi. That’s a good thing, because hostage takers don’t go away after they are paid ransom. They keep coming back for more. America would have made a terrible mistake if they negotiated with such criminal careerists.  
ETA: Ezra Klein on Pelosi and Traitor Trump: [How Nancy Pelosi ended Donald Trump’s shutdown - Vox](https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/1/25/18197685/nancy-pelosi-trump-shutdown-over)

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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2019, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907/178 "2019-01-26T01:05:49Z")

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> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> It’s only for three weeks. I can’t accept this as a complete win just yet.

Right, but if he goes back to the same well, he will just get another round of the political pain he got this time.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2019, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907/179 "2019-01-26T01:13:13Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> TBH I never paid that much attention to her. What makes you “not a fan”?

A bit too liberal. Mind you, I dont hate her or anything, she is OK.

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**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2019, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nancy-pelosi-appreciation-thread/827907/180 "2019-01-26T02:02:56Z")

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> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#):
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> Trump was offered $25 trillion of wall spending in return for giving permanent protection for the Dreamers -something most Republicans agree with - and he refused. So this wasn’t about the wall.

No it wasn’t about the wall. But I hope my readers understood I meant [$25 billion](https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-chuck-schumer-wall-20180124-story.html), not $25 trillion.

ETA: Ezra Klein on Pelosi and Trump: [How Nancy Pelosi ended Donald Trump’s shutdown - Vox](https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/1/25/18197685/nancy-pelosi-trump-shutdown-over) Meh, I’ll quote something from the article: Second, Pelosi correctly read Trump’s personality and had the steel to act on that read. For years now, members of Congress have divided on whether Trump is strong or weak, whether his political success shows an intuitive tactical genius that needs to be respected or a hollow showman who connects to conservatives but is easily flummoxed.

Pelosi has long held that Trump is weak, easily confused, and easily baited. That informed her strategy. Along with Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, she baited Trump into saying, while the cameras were rolling, “I will shut down the government. I am proud to shut down the government. I will take the mantle.” In interviews and meetings, she tweaked the president, calling the crisis “the Trump shutdown” to Trump’s face and suggesting the billionaire thought furloughed workers “could just ask their father for more money.” She was betting that Trump would overreact rather than turn her into the aggressor, and he did. Also:

You don’t hear many House Democrats these days grumbling about Pelosi’s leadership. But you hear plenty of Republicans lamenting Trump’s.

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