# The Nazis Were Funded by wall street **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [August 5, 2013, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nazis-were-funded-by-wall-street/665364 "2013-08-05T03:08:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2013, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nazis-were-funded-by-wall-street/665364/21 "2013-08-05T03:41:27Z")
> [@MIDWESTcowboy8312](#): > > Any thoughts? You first. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2013, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nazis-were-funded-by-wall-street/665364/22 "2013-08-05T03:41:32Z")
Those were some pretty suicidal Rothschilds. But the reality is less conspiratorial. American companies entered into agreements and did business with Nazi Germany not out of any deep ideological conformity. So, I mean, IBM did sell census tabulating machines to Germany that would go on to be used in the Holocaust (as described in the book ‘IBM and the Holocaust’), and Chase laundered money that had been stolen by the German government from Jews, for instance. But it wasn’t ideological. It was just business. And in some of the examples you give…the Rothschild branches in Continental Europe found themselves arrested, forced out of their homes, and their property seized. In Austria, for instance, the Rothschilds were forced to sell their businesses for next to nothing, their homes and art were seized, and Baron Louis was imprisoned for almost a year before he was finally able to leave the country. The French Rothschilds, when the Vichy government took over, were stripped of their nationality and property. Most managed to flee to the US or Britian, but one of them, Elisabeth, the wife of Phillippe de Rothschild, died in Ravensbruck. As for Lehman Brothers, Herbert Lehman had a fairly large family in Europe, who he did his best to get out. He also donated to a bunch of Jewish refugee organizations and worked to rescue a bunch of Jews not named Lehman. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2013, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nazis-were-funded-by-wall-street/665364/23 "2013-08-05T03:44:54Z")
I remember reading the bad choices that companies like Ford, GE and IBM did to help the Nazis. As for the most recent accusations, it seems that branches in Europe were doing very bad things with many Jewish bank accounts. > **[BBC News | Europe | US banks gave Jewish money to Nazis](http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/270849.stm)** > > A French government commission, investigating the seizure of Jewish bank accounts during the Second World War, says five American banks took part. > [@](#): > > A French government commission, investigating the seizure of Jewish bank accounts during the Second World War, says five American banks Chase Manhattan, J.P Morgan, Guaranty Trust Co. of New York, Bank of the City of New York and American Express had taken part. > > It says their Paris branches handed over to the Nazi occupiers about one-hundred such accounts. Of course, after war was declared between Germany and the USA, that and other iffy dealings with Germany and the banks stopped cold. There is not much evidence for what the OP is referring to. ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2013, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nazis-were-funded-by-wall-street/665364/24 "2013-08-05T03:48:28Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > How about YOU look a little deeper and report back? Preferably with reputable cites backed by some actual data. Not too hard to do if it’s all out there to find, right? > > If you look deeper, my own personal fortune is estimated to be in the billions, possible even 500 quadrillion… > > …deeper doesn’t have to mean “factual”, does it? Well, if Occam’s Razor has anything to say about it, digging deeper will tend to take you away from the facts. ---
**Author:** ![deltasigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e5b9ba/32.png) [@deltasigma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deltasigma)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2013, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nazis-were-funded-by-wall-street/665364/25 "2013-08-05T03:51:07Z")
America is a state of mind man. You can’t kill a state of mind. Well, maybe with a head shot. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2013, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nazis-were-funded-by-wall-street/665364/26 "2013-08-05T03:51:13Z")
> [@njtt](#): > > The Rothschilds are Jewish too, so I guess the Third Reich was all a Jewish plot really. :rolleyes: > > Mind you , I do not doubt that there was lots of Wall Street money, and probably even money from Jewish controlled banks, invested in German industry (probably including the arms industry) during the period of the Nazi rise to power and of German re-armament. No conspiracy theory is needed to explain this, however. It was just a matter of the normal pursuit of profit combined with an inability to see the future (and very likely when the profits are rolling in nicely, that makes it even even harder than it might otherwise be to foresee the coming evil consequences of your investments). Talk about selling them the rope to hang you . . . ---
**Author:** ![MIDWESTcowboy8312](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/958977/32.png) [@MIDWESTcowboy8312](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MIDWESTcowboy8312)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2013, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nazis-were-funded-by-wall-street/665364/27 "2013-08-05T03:51:38Z")
Look up how the Rothschilds manipulated the battle of Waterloo. They OWN THE FUCKING UNITED STATES THROUGH THE FEDERAL RESERVE it’s not a government agency. It’s a privately owned company that the Rothschilds set up in 1913. Any president that has tried to let the US print their own money has been assassinated or has had a close call ( Andrew Jackson, Abe Lincoln, JFK). They are a critical part in implanting the NWO through FICTIONAL DEBT. Here Is a quote from Mayor Amschel Rothschilds wife before her death in 1850 " if my sons did not want wars, there would be none. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2013, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nazis-were-funded-by-wall-street/665364/28 "2013-08-05T03:54:12Z")
> [@njtt](#): > > The Rothschilds are Jewish too, so I guess the Third Reich was all a Jewish plot really. :rolleyes:) _Everything_ is a Jewish Plot. Didn’t you get the memo? **MIDWEST** , I’d suggest putting down the crack pipe and getting some fresh air. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2013, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nazis-were-funded-by-wall-street/665364/29 "2013-08-05T03:55:40Z")
As long as they keep Steve Gutenberg a star, I’m fine with it. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2013, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nazis-were-funded-by-wall-street/665364/30 "2013-08-05T03:56:56Z")
> [@MIDWESTcowboy8312](#): > > Look up how the Rothschilds manipulated the battle of Waterloo. They OWN THE FUCKING UNITED STATES THROUGH THE FEDERAL RESERVE it’s not a government agency. It’s a privately owned company that the Rothschilds set up in 1913. Any president that has tried to let the US print their own money has been assassinated or has had a close call ( Andrew Jackson, Abe Lincoln, JFK). They are a critical part in implanting the NWO through FICTIONAL DEBT. > > Here Is a quote from Mayor Amschel Rothschilds wife before her death in 1850 " if my sons did not > want wars, there would be none. Can you cite anything other than the book mentioned in the OP? ---
**Author:** ![deltasigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e5b9ba/32.png) [@deltasigma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deltasigma)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2013, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nazis-were-funded-by-wall-street/665364/31 "2013-08-05T03:58:01Z")
> [@MIDWESTcowboy8312](#): > > They OWN THE FUCKING UNITED STATES THROUGH THE FEDERAL RESERVE **it’s not a government agency** [It’s a public/private hybrid](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Reserve_System). You need to do your homework. > [@](#): > > The Federal Reserve System’s structure is composed of the presidentially appointed [Board of Governors](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Reserve_Board_of_Governors) (or Federal Reserve Board), the [Federal Open Market Committee](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Open_Market_Committee) (FOMC), twelve regional [Federal Reserve Banks](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Reserve_Bank) located in major cities throughout the nation, numerous privately owned U.S. member banks and various advisory councils.[[13]](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Reserve_System#cite_note-13)[[14]](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Reserve_System#cite_note-14)[[15]](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Reserve_System#cite_note-15) The FOMC is the committee responsible for setting monetary policy and consists of all seven members of the Board of Governors and the twelve regional bank presidents, though only five bank presidents vote at any given time (the president of the New York Fed and four others who rotate through one-year terms). The Federal Reserve System has both private and public components, and was designed to serve the interests of both the general public and private bankers. ---
**Author:** ![MIDWESTcowboy8312](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/958977/32.png) [@MIDWESTcowboy8312](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MIDWESTcowboy8312)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2013, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nazis-were-funded-by-wall-street/665364/32 "2013-08-05T03:58:37Z")
SEARCH: The battle of Waterloo and the Rothschilds…it’s pretty creepy ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2013, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nazis-were-funded-by-wall-street/665364/33 "2013-08-05T03:58:48Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > How about YOU look a little deeper and report back? Bad advice to give somebody who appears to already be knee-deep in a pile of bullshit. The deeper you dig, the more you’ll be surrounded by it. My advice to the OP is that whenever somebody tells you about a conspiracy that defies mainstream knowledge, step back for a second and ask yourself if the conspiracy actually makes any sense. A Jewish conspiracy to create a Nazi regime? That idea is too stupid to be true. ---
**Author:** ![MIDWESTcowboy8312](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/958977/32.png) [@MIDWESTcowboy8312](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MIDWESTcowboy8312)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2013, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nazis-were-funded-by-wall-street/665364/34 "2013-08-05T04:01:14Z")
‘… The most powerful men in the United States were themselves answerable to another power, a foreign power, and a power which had been steadfastly seeking to extend its control over the young republic since its very inception. The power was the financial power of England, centered in the London Branch of the House of Rothschild. The fact was that in 1910, the United States was for all practical purposes being ruled from England, and so it is today’ ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2013, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nazis-were-funded-by-wall-street/665364/35 "2013-08-05T04:03:55Z")
> [@MIDWESTcowboy8312](#): > > ‘… The most powerful men in the United States were themselves answerable to another power, a foreign power, and a power which had been steadfastly seeking to extend its control over the young republic since its very inception. The power was the financial power of England, centered in the London Branch of the House of Rothschild. The fact was that in 1910, the United States was for all practical purposes being ruled from England, and so it is today’ Please properly attribute this quote. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2013, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nazis-were-funded-by-wall-street/665364/36 "2013-08-05T04:04:54Z")
> [@MIDWESTcowboy8312](#): > > ‘… The most powerful men in the United States were themselves answerable to another power, a foreign power, and a power which had been steadfastly seeking to extend its control over the young republic since its very inception. The power was the financial power of England, centered in the London Branch of the House of Rothschild. The fact was that in 1910, the United States was for all practical purposes being ruled from England, and so it is today’ [The person you’re quoting.](http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Eustace_Mullins) He sounds like a bag of shit. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2013, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nazis-were-funded-by-wall-street/665364/37 "2013-08-05T04:05:12Z")
> [@MIDWESTcowboy8312](#): > > It appears their wealth declined, but if you look a little deeper their fortunes are estimated in the trillions to this day, some say possibly even 500 trillion I’d like to see a breakdown of that wealth before commenting. The total value of all gold ever mined is estimated to be $7 trillion. Figure another $50 trillion if they owned all the stock listed on all the stock exchanges in all the world. But I know that’s an exaggeration because my wife owns $10,000 worth of GE – call it $49,999,999,990,000.00 then. Real estate values are harder to come by. U.S. homes aggregated $15 trillion by a FRB estimate but that includes both mortgage value, and residual value. Assuming the Rothschilds really own all the mortgages, do they own the residual equities as well? We seem to be coming up short. Can you help? Yes, yes, we know about the billions of carats of diamonds and rubies stashed away in the secret Rothschild vaults underneath Egypt’s Great Sphinx, but if they tried to dump those all at once, it would be a buyer’s market and I doubt if the Rothschilds would get the whole $400 quadrillion or whatever they’d hope for. ---
**Author:** ![deltasigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e5b9ba/32.png) [@deltasigma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deltasigma)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2013, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nazis-were-funded-by-wall-street/665364/38 "2013-08-05T04:05:19Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Please properly attribute this quote. Careful what you ask for. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2013, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nazis-were-funded-by-wall-street/665364/39 "2013-08-05T04:06:09Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > I remember reading the bad choices that companies like Ford, GE and IBM did to help the Nazis. > > As for the most recent accusations, it seems that branches in Europe were doing very bad things with many Jewish bank accounts. > > [BBC News | Europe | US banks gave Jewish money to Nazis](http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/europe/270849.stm) Sure, but look at all the companies that do business with China nowadays. It’s not out of any great love for the Chinese government. It’s just a realization that there’s money in it. It was the same sort of thing back then. ---
**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2013, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nazis-were-funded-by-wall-street/665364/40 "2013-08-05T04:06:17Z")
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