# The Nazis Were Funded by wall street **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [August 5, 2013, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nazis-were-funded-by-wall-street/665364 "2013-08-05T03:08:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![MIDWESTcowboy8312](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/958977/32.png) [@MIDWESTcowboy8312](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MIDWESTcowboy8312)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2013, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nazis-were-funded-by-wall-street/665364/41 "2013-08-05T04:06:20Z")
No need to get defensive, the truth can be hard to swallow ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2013, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nazis-were-funded-by-wall-street/665364/42 "2013-08-05T04:06:34Z")
Can we keep him? Pleeeeese? We’ll feed him and comb him and make sure he gets walked twice a day. Promise! ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2013, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nazis-were-funded-by-wall-street/665364/43 "2013-08-05T04:06:40Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Bad advice to give somebody who appears to already be knee-deep in a pile of bullshit. Oh, I doubt I’ll change minds. But I do like a good laugh now and again. ---
**Author:** ![MIDWESTcowboy8312](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/958977/32.png) [@MIDWESTcowboy8312](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MIDWESTcowboy8312)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2013, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nazis-were-funded-by-wall-street/665364/44 "2013-08-05T04:10:19Z")
We are all slaves working in an economic based system, which is designed to make people exploit each other in the pursuits of money. We are all hamsters on a wheel and must keep running faster and faster to pay the bills and keep up with the jonses. Wake up people ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2013, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nazis-were-funded-by-wall-street/665364/45 "2013-08-05T04:11:38Z")
who the fuck is ‘e jonses’ ? ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2013, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nazis-were-funded-by-wall-street/665364/46 "2013-08-05T04:12:21Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > My first thought: 10 million years seems a reasonable upper bounding point. Homo sapiens will give way to our descendant species by then anyway. Actually, [the Americas won’t collapse into a future Pangaea for about another 250 million years.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tv6p48v0meE) ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2013, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nazis-were-funded-by-wall-street/665364/47 "2013-08-05T04:12:44Z")
I think he’s the guy who lives two doors down. You know, the one with the VW Golf in the driveway? ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2013, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nazis-were-funded-by-wall-street/665364/48 "2013-08-05T04:13:00Z")
> [@Captain\_Amazing](#): > > Sure, but look at all the companies that do business with China nowadays. It’s not out of any great love for the Chinese government. It’s just a realization that there’s money in it. It was the same sort of thing back then. Mmm, does this means that banks in America today give the accounts of dissidents or from Taiwan to China? :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Scrappy\_Hero\_Pup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ea5d25/32.png) [@Happy\_Scrappy\_Hero\_Pup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Scrappy_Hero_Pup)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2013, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nazis-were-funded-by-wall-street/665364/49 "2013-08-05T04:13:08Z")
If we’re working in an economics-based system, doesn’t that make us wage-earners? Although technically speaking, aren’t ALL systems economics-based? ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2013, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nazis-were-funded-by-wall-street/665364/50 "2013-08-05T04:13:24Z")
> [@MIDWESTcowboy8312](#): > > Look up how the Rothschilds manipulated the battle of Waterloo. They didn’t manipulate the Battle of Waterloo. Nathan Rothschild, based on his connections with the British army, and using what would today be considered insider trading, found out about the results of the market before the general public, manipulated the London bond market to make a fortune when the news of the battle became public. Sleazy and unethical, sure. Nathan could be a pretty ruthless individual. But insider trading is different than manipulating world events. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Scrappy\_Hero\_Pup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ea5d25/32.png) [@Happy\_Scrappy\_Hero\_Pup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Scrappy_Hero_Pup)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2013, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nazis-were-funded-by-wall-street/665364/51 "2013-08-05T04:16:28Z")
Everybody knows that the Pope had JFK killed for committing adultery. Jeez, man. Try to keep up. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2013, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nazis-were-funded-by-wall-street/665364/52 "2013-08-05T04:17:35Z")
Wicked thread merge! ---
**Author:** ![pravnik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pravnik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pravnik)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2013, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nazis-were-funded-by-wall-street/665364/53 "2013-08-05T04:17:50Z")
> [@Happy\_Scrappy\_Hero\_Pup](#): > > Everybody knows that the Pope had JFK killed for committing adultery. > > Jeez, man. Try to keep up. I didn’t even know they were married! ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2013, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nazis-were-funded-by-wall-street/665364/54 "2013-08-05T04:18:03Z")
Merged all of **MIDWESTcowboy8312** ’s threads. I think they’re similar enough that they can be grouped together. ---
**Author:** ![Rick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9f8e36/32.png) [@Rick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2013, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nazis-were-funded-by-wall-street/665364/55 "2013-08-05T04:18:17Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > Can we keep him? Pleeeeese? We’ll feed him and comb him and make sure he gets walked twice a day. Promise! 😃 fnord ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2013, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nazis-were-funded-by-wall-street/665364/56 "2013-08-05T04:20:45Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > Merged all of **MIDWESTcowboy8312** ’s threads. I think they’re similar enough that they can be grouped together. Mixing them up certainly doesn’t make them make any _less_ sense.🙂 ---
**Author:** ![MIDWESTcowboy8312](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/958977/32.png) [@MIDWESTcowboy8312](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MIDWESTcowboy8312)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2013, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nazis-were-funded-by-wall-street/665364/57 "2013-08-05T04:21:30Z")
They funded both armies ---
**Author:** ![deltasigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e5b9ba/32.png) [@deltasigma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deltasigma)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2013, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nazis-were-funded-by-wall-street/665364/58 "2013-08-05T04:22:32Z")
> [@levdrakon](#): > > Wicked thread merge! Seconded. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2013, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nazis-were-funded-by-wall-street/665364/59 "2013-08-05T04:22:33Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > Mmm, does this means that banks in America today give the accounts of dissidents or from Taiwan to China? :dubious: No, not that I know of. But US companies do buy Chinese products made with slave labor. But really, do you think that the banks that did that stuff did it because their New York offices were pro-Nazi? ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2013, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nazis-were-funded-by-wall-street/665364/60 "2013-08-05T04:22:40Z")
> [@Captain\_Amazing](#): > > Nathan Rothschild, based on his connections with the British army, and using what would today be considered insider trading, found out about the results of the market before the general public, manipulated the London bond market to make a fortune when the news of the battle became public… The effect of Waterloo on Rothschild fortunes may be exaggerated. (I’ll not post URL’s lest the You-Know-Who be watching.) > [@](#): > > The most widespread Rothschild myth was that Nathan, after receiving news by carrier pigeon of Wellington’s victory at Waterloo, made a vast fortune speculating on the rise in British government securities. The reality, says Ferguson, was quite different. The Rothschilds’ couriers did alert them first to Napoleon’s defeat, but since they had bet big on a protracted military campaign, any quick gains in bonds after Waterloo were too small to offset the disruption to their business. > [@](#): > > In 1815, the combined forces of Britain and Prussia defeated Napoleon’s army at the Battle of Waterloo. It was, said the Duke of Wellington, a damn close run thing. But even before the dust had settled on the battlefield, a carrier pigeon belonging to the House of Rothschild was on its way across the Channel to London. Nathan Rothschild, informed ahead of other traders that the country was not to be over-run by the French, consequently made a killing by buying British government bonds… > Little of this legend is true but there are elements that are accurate. There was a battle at Waterloo, which ended Napoleon’s career. Wellington did not say it was a damn close run thing but there is evidence he thought so. The Rothschilds used carrier pigeons but that was not how they learnt the battle’s outcome. Rothschild did have early knowledge of the outcome, and may have used it to advantage, but that knowledge was not the source of the house of Rothschild’s fabled wealth. It did, however, earn a great deal, helping governments of all complexions to fund the Napoleonic wars. If this discussion helps fight ignorance I want to give full credit to OP. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nazis-were-funded-by-wall-street/665364.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nazis-were-funded-by-wall-street/665364.md?page=4)