# The NCAA needs to lighten up on tOSU.

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [May 8, 2011, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ncaa-needs-to-lighten-up-on-tosu/581109 "2011-05-08T00:58:34Z")\
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**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2011, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ncaa-needs-to-lighten-up-on-tosu/581109/181 "2011-06-05T15:25:26Z")

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Could you guys please take the Fab Five crap to its own thread?

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**Author:** ![furt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/439d5e/32.png) [@furt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furt)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2011, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ncaa-needs-to-lighten-up-on-tosu/581109/182 "2011-06-05T15:40:02Z")

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> [@R.P.McMurphy](#):
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> Geez, connect the effen dots.

Absolutely. Do people really think Buster Douglas beat Mike Tyson fair and square? Do you think Man O’ War would have lost to a 100-1 shot? Or that Appalachian State really could have beaten Michigan in football without a fix? Come on!

Get real people! Connect the dots.

Next thing you know, people will be claiming that they think that Rulon Gardner _really_ beat a Russian who hadn’t been scored on in 13 years, or that NAIA Chaminade beat the #1 team in the country without a little bit of help!

Granted, all those things are easier to believe than thinking Northwestern could score 97 in a meaningless game against a bunch of sophomores, but really. It’s so obvious that asking for evidence is just silly.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2011, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ncaa-needs-to-lighten-up-on-tosu/581109/183 "2011-06-05T15:44:39Z")

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Granted it seems appropriate that this thread about OSU is turning into an argument about Michigan, but **Zakalwe** ’s right. I’ll lay off.

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2011, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ncaa-needs-to-lighten-up-on-tosu/581109/184 "2011-06-05T15:51:50Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> Granted it seems appropriate that this thread about OSU is turning into an argument about Michigan, but **Zakalwe** ’s right. I’ll lay off.

Probably a lot of work (and may not be worthwhile), but is it possible to transfer all the fab five posts to new thread Marley?

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2011, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ncaa-needs-to-lighten-up-on-tosu/581109/185 "2011-06-05T16:35:08Z")

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The logic is inescapable. The NCAA should lighten up on OSU because long ago, Uof M basketball players may or may not have engaged in questionable actions.  
I thought this was about players selling everything but the stadium seats. I thought it was about a bunch of players and their families getting cars.  
U of M just got toasted for having coaches run out of season practices. Now that is a major infraction compared to Tressel’s program of paying players.

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**Author:** ![R.P.McMurphy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7993a0/32.png) [@R.P.McMurphy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/R.P.McMurphy)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2011, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ncaa-needs-to-lighten-up-on-tosu/581109/186 "2011-06-05T18:18:23Z")

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To get back on track, Pryor is saying he will be playing for OSU this year.

1st - Why? Isn’t there enough carnage in this mess. Why not try for a supplemental draft or is the lack of a CBA getting in the way?

2nd - Since the magnitude of the mess has escalated couldn’t the NCAA suspend him for the season? Isn’t the 5 game suspension just a self imposed OSU suspension?

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**Author:** ![MOIDALIZE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MOIDALIZE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MOIDALIZE)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2011, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ncaa-needs-to-lighten-up-on-tosu/581109/187 "2011-06-05T18:31:19Z")

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A.J. Green got suspended 4 games for selling a jersey to an agent. If the car investigation doesn’t go anywhere, then 5 games seems like a suitable suspension.

Of course, this assumes that Coach Fickell wants anything to do with Pryor. I’m of two minds about that.

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**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2011, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ncaa-needs-to-lighten-up-on-tosu/581109/188 "2011-06-05T18:41:49Z")

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> [@R.P.McMurphy](#):
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> To get back on track, Pryor is saying he will be playing for OSU this year.
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> 1st - Why? Isn’t there enough carnage in this mess. Why not try for a supplemental draft or is the lack of a CBA getting in the way?

Plus the fact that right now he’ll get picked in the 6th or 7th round. Why bother with Pryor when you can get the same headaches and talent with more polish by signing Vince Young or Pat White.

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2011, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ncaa-needs-to-lighten-up-on-tosu/581109/189 "2011-06-05T18:51:58Z")

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The fact they dumped Tressel should tell you the problems were far more severe than you Buckeyes are pretending. There is no way he gets pushed out if they could sweep it away. It is bad and as time goes on more and more will come out. Tressel was in hot water before he went to OSU. He did not go clean slate. he jumped right back in the mud.

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**Author:** ![paperbackwriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/53a042/32.png) [@paperbackwriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paperbackwriter)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2011, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ncaa-needs-to-lighten-up-on-tosu/581109/190 "2011-06-06T17:24:46Z")

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The fact they forced Tressel’s resignation tells me they’re really, _really_ worried about the threat of institutional penalties. So far, everything’s been individual penalties, and that’s where Gee and Smith are hoping it stays. They think by throwing Tressel to the wolves they can possibly save their own hides.

Which brings up this: As obviously hypocritical as Tressel has been in constructing the image that continues to confound Buckeye fans, he was sincere about one thing. He obviously did have a great affection for the program. He could have gone the Mike Leach route and fought it tooth and nail. Instead, he did one last service and played scapegoat for his bosses.

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2011, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ncaa-needs-to-lighten-up-on-tosu/581109/191 "2011-06-07T00:33:29Z")

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New tOSU fight song?  
O, we don’t give a damn about a players inked tattoo  
Or a new car, might be blue,  
We want to see wins at the horseshoe  
We don’t give a damn about the N-C-Double-A,  
we’re from O-HIGH-O

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**Author:** ![Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a183cd/32.png) [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barkis_is_Willin)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2011, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ncaa-needs-to-lighten-up-on-tosu/581109/192 "2011-06-07T14:20:04Z")

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> [@R.P.McMurphy](#):
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> To get back on track, Pryor is saying he will be playing for OSU this year.
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> 1st - Why? Isn’t there enough carnage in this mess. Why not try for a supplemental draft or is the lack of a CBA getting in the way?
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> 2nd - Since the magnitude of the mess has escalated couldn’t the NCAA suspend him for the season? Isn’t the 5 game suspension just a self imposed OSU suspension?

1 - Because, as of now, he will not play QB in the NFL. It’s probably in his best interest to show off his athletic abilities for another season in college to try and restore his image.

2 - The NCAA is still investigating, so yeah, Pryor could possibly get harsher punishment. The thing about the NCAA investigating this stuff is that it’s in their best interest to brush these things aside while making a show of being concerned. They’ve shown multiple times that they will not act on rule breakers until the national media shoves in in everyone’s face to the point the NCAA can’t ignore it anymore.

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2011, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ncaa-needs-to-lighten-up-on-tosu/581109/193 "2011-06-07T17:36:48Z")

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The NFL lockout makes it tough on players who want to leave the dirty OSU program. Their options are limited now.

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**Author:** ![MOIDALIZE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MOIDALIZE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MOIDALIZE)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2011, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ncaa-needs-to-lighten-up-on-tosu/581109/194 "2011-06-07T18:57:02Z")

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> [@gonzomax](#):
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> The NFL lockout makes it tough on players who want to leave the dirty OSU program. Their options are limited now.

9-1

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2011, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ncaa-needs-to-lighten-up-on-tosu/581109/195 "2011-06-07T19:02:17Z")

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> [@MOIDALIZE](#):
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> 9-1

Since we were dealing with Pryor lately, that is irrelevant. The best and most famous, would likely have the option to turn pro. That does not mean all players would.

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2011, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ncaa-needs-to-lighten-up-on-tosu/581109/196 "2011-06-07T21:57:20Z")

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A tOSU insider has tweeted that [Terrelle Pryor will not play for the Bucknutts in 2011](http://twitter.com/#!/PDBuckeyes). anyone surprised?

Edit: Just searched on “[Pryor](http://twitter.com/#!/search/Pryor)” on twitter and the rumors are rampant.

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**Author:** ![DxZero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@DxZero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DxZero)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2011, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ncaa-needs-to-lighten-up-on-tosu/581109/197 "2011-06-07T22:18:31Z")

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> [@notfrommensa](#):
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> A tOSU insider has tweeted that [Terrelle Pryor will not play for the Bucknutts in 2011](http://twitter.com/#!/PDBuckeyes). anyone surprised?
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> Edit: Just searched on “[Pryor](http://twitter.com/#!/search/Pryor)” on twitter and the rumors are rampant.

Confirmed by, among others, [ESPN](http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=6636768).

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2011, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ncaa-needs-to-lighten-up-on-tosu/581109/198 "2011-06-07T23:02:37Z")

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I forgot about the Canadian Football option for Pryor.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2011, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ncaa-needs-to-lighten-up-on-tosu/581109/199 "2011-06-07T23:35:10Z")

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> [@notfrommensa](#):
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> A tOSU insider has tweeted that [Terrelle Pryor will not play for the Bucknutts in 2011](http://twitter.com/#!/PDBuckeyes). anyone surprised?

No. With Tressel out and the NCAA asking questions about the cars, it was obvious he was going to get hit with a bigger suspension.

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**Author:** ![R.P.McMurphy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7993a0/32.png) [@R.P.McMurphy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/R.P.McMurphy)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2011, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ncaa-needs-to-lighten-up-on-tosu/581109/200 "2011-06-08T00:10:40Z")

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Terrelle Pryor sounds like a Weiner.

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