# The necessary character traits of a navy submarine commander

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**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [February 10, 2016, 6:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-necessary-character-traits-of-a-navy-submarine-commander/745688 "2016-02-10T06:58:25Z")\
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**Post date:** [February 12, 2016, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-necessary-character-traits-of-a-navy-submarine-commander/745688/41 "2016-02-12T17:45:36Z")

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> [@MichaelEmouse](#):
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> Doesn’t seem so very different from being a decent civilian manager or even a decent human.

Exactly

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> What kind of decisions would they be brought into as reward?

No idea for sub duty, as I’ve never been on one. In the Naval construction arena, I would include smart young men in the project planning phase and give them additional responsibility on the job site. I could also recommend them for inclusion on a ‘detachment’ for the next deployment, which were generally plum assignments.

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> If a submarine CO realizes he has a bad apple in the middle of a long deployment, what are his options?

After verbal counseling, cautions or reprimands, without an improvement in performance, a Captain’s Mast for reduction in rank and in pay may be in order. In the extreme, all boats have a brig for those guilty of criminal mischief. Punitive measures were always a last resort for me. I think that in 23 years I sent only few people to Mast, and only a couple who worked directly for me, who were just misfits. The others were men who didn’t show up for their watch when I was the guy in charge of the duty crew, and who I likely had no other contact with on a daily basis. Many times, people who don’t show up for duty have a perfectly legitimate reason for not doing so, but the default response of the OOD is to initiate a report and let the chain of command sort it out later.

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