# The new "Dune" adaptation

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-dune-adaptation/851788>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** movies\
**Created:** [April 14, 2020, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-dune-adaptation/851788 "2020-04-14T18:15:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2021, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-dune-adaptation/851788/281 "2021-07-23T17:09:47Z")

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Is that picture an homage to, or a rip off of

[![](https://64.media.tumblr.com/7a353f32fe537ad27af8690497d91303/tumblr_np2tnlWcgo1ry6e0go1_1280.jpg) ](https://64.media.tumblr.com/7a353f32fe537ad27af8690497d91303/tumblr_np2tnlWcgo1ry6e0go1_1280.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2021, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-dune-adaptation/851788/282 "2021-07-23T17:12:00Z")

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Aren’t those just different artist’s interpretations of the same scene?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2021, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-dune-adaptation/851788/283 "2021-07-23T19:08:51Z")

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> [@John\_DiFool](#):
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> Is Patrick Stewart no longer playing the Emperor? IMDb doesn’t list him as such (if the Emperor will only show up in the 2nd film).

I had suggested him for the role upthread, but have never seen anything officially stating that he would have the role.

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**Author:** ![MindsEye\_Watering](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mindseye_watering/32/3619_2.png) [@MindsEye\_Watering](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MindsEye_Watering)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2021, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-dune-adaptation/851788/284 "2021-07-23T23:03:25Z")

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No message

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**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2021, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-dune-adaptation/851788/285 "2021-07-24T00:22:18Z")

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Still looks awesome

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**Author:** ![Dr.Strangelove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.strangelove/32/6613_2.png) [@Dr.Strangelove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Strangelove)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2021, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-dune-adaptation/851788/286 "2021-07-24T01:10:57Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> Aren’t those just different artist’s interpretations of the same scene?

They are, but Heighliners are never described in detail–certainly not as long cylinders. They are described as being so large that all of the Atreides’ stuff can fit in a small corner of the ship, so we’d expect the cargo transports to be tiny in comparison, as we see. And a planet scale evacuation of a Great House would certainly require many craft, which might organize into long lines. But the cylindrical shape seems to be an invention of the Lynch movie and roughly copied by the Sci Fi miniseries.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2021, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-dune-adaptation/851788/287 "2021-07-24T01:25:33Z")

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> [@Dr.Strangelove](#):
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> They are, but Heighliners are never described in detail–certainly not as long cylinders.

Thanks for the explanation. The pictures were so similar I’d assumed they were both based of some particular description from the book.

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**Author:** ![Dr.Strangelove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.strangelove/32/6613_2.png) [@Dr.Strangelove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Strangelove)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2021, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-dune-adaptation/851788/288 "2021-07-24T01:49:10Z")

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Even the scene itself has to be inferred. We know the Atreides are packing up and moving out, and that the heighliners cannot land, and that the passengers stay in their ships (therefore no outgoing ships). But we don’t get much information about the loading process.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2021, 7:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-dune-adaptation/851788/289 "2021-07-24T07:41:52Z")

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I think Herbert kept the more whiz-bang technological elements of his stories purposely vague. He cared much more about worm-riding hooks than he did about spaceships. It’s what helps make the books timeless.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2021, 7:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-dune-adaptation/851788/290 "2021-07-24T07:46:46Z")

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Considering that the ship is piloted by a giant mutant worm-person-thing who’s able to navigate safely without the aid of computers because it’s already seen into the future to find out how it successfully does so, the shape of the ship is far less interesting in comparison.

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2021, 11:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-dune-adaptation/851788/291 "2021-07-24T11:26:11Z")

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I think the most important thing to know is the ships are massive and critical to the galactic civilization.

Everything hinges on the spice which the navigators need and, by extension, civilization itself.

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2021, 11:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-dune-adaptation/851788/292 "2021-07-24T11:26:55Z")

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Happy birthday!

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2021, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-dune-adaptation/851788/293 "2021-07-24T15:33:58Z")

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Hey, thanks!

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2021, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-dune-adaptation/851788/294 "2021-08-18T15:13:44Z")

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I saw a video on YouTube yesterday that said Warner Brothers is fully behind Dune and barring an epic disaster at the box office, Part 2 will be made.

Villeneuve has been working on finishing up the script. I really hope this is true. 🤞

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2021, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-dune-adaptation/851788/295 "2021-08-18T19:29:20Z")

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Definitely - thanks!

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**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2021, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-dune-adaptation/851788/296 "2021-08-19T00:24:30Z")

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Warner Bros is fully behind it _right now._ All it takes is for one key person to leave and everything changes.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2021, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-dune-adaptation/851788/297 "2021-08-19T18:58:58Z")

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Too true. Douglas Adams once complained that getting a movie approved in Hollywood was like cooking a steak by having a series of people come into the kitchen and breathe on it.

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**Author:** ![nightshadea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7ba0ec/32.png) [@nightshadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nightshadea)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2021, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-dune-adaptation/851788/298 "2021-08-19T22:18:50Z")

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the one thing i liked about the tv version of the movie that no one else does is the 5-10 minute beginning that gives a history lesson and explains the house system (its supposedly what pauls reading/listening to when the movie starts)

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2021, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-dune-adaptation/851788/299 "2021-08-20T14:23:25Z")

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A little cleverly-done exposition is always for the best in a story as complex as _Dune_.

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**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2021, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-dune-adaptation/851788/300 "2021-08-20T16:48:56Z")

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That’s always been a big handicap for Dune. There’s so much backstory relevant to the plot which is unwieldy in a movie format. That and the massive amount of internal dialog that somehow has to be conveyed. Lynch just had them think in voice-overs. And most movies use a foil to ask questions for the audiences’ benefit. But both of these can quickly become tedious.

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