# The new "Dune" adaptation **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** movies\ **Created:** [April 14, 2020, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-dune-adaptation/851788 "2020-04-14T18:15:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2020, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-dune-adaptation/851788/81 "2020-09-09T23:12:01Z")
I have to say, that looked fucking awesome. I do take issue with the Pink Floyd song though. It fits in with the trailer, but the Dune universe is so far into the future and alien from our own that I find any connection to ours a bit…offputting. But who knows? maybe Dark Side of the Moon ends up standing the test of time? ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2020, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-dune-adaptation/851788/82 "2020-09-09T23:55:20Z")
> [@msmith537](#): > > I do take issue with the Pink Floyd song though. It fits in with the trailer, but the Dune universe is so far into the future and alien from our own that I find any connection to ours a bit…offputting. I agree. I thought the song fit at first in its darker, minor-key version. But the orchestral swell and shift to a major key halfway through seemed too…happy? for what I was watching. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2020, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-dune-adaptation/851788/83 "2020-09-10T00:22:13Z")
It really does lack the majesty and otherworldly grandeur of Toto. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2020, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-dune-adaptation/851788/84 "2020-09-10T00:39:08Z")
> [@msmith537](#): > > I do take issue with the Pink Floyd song though. It fits in with the trailer, but the Dune universe is so far into the future and alien from our own that I find any connection to ours a bit…offputting. But who knows? maybe Dark Side of the Moon ends up standing the test of time? Huh, I liked it for much the same reason. _Dune_ is great, but I think it’s very much of its time, as is Pink Floyd. I just looked up their respective dates, and it turns out that Pink Floyd formed the same year–1965–that Dune was published. So for me, the song resonates: we’re watching a period piece. ---
**Author:** ![Tibby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tibby/32/17030_2.png) [@Tibby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tibby)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2020, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-dune-adaptation/851788/85 "2020-09-10T02:28:50Z")
I cut my sci-fi teeth on Frank Herbert’s Dune (and sequels) as a pre-teen in the ‘60’s. Loved the book(s); hated the ‘84 movie. …that said, [the scene](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWq15lDh8yM) where Kenneth McMillan (Baron Harkonnen) inflating and floating up to the ceiling was quite cool (his painted toenails clinched it). Unfortunately, the rest of the movie was dull and uninspired. Judging by the trailer, Dune 2020 looks to be a cut above. I agree with MrDibble that the aesthetic, at least, looks right. Perhaps this will be the start of a successful series franchise. If Pink Floyd produced the _entire_ soundtrack, I’d definitely be a fan. ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2020, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-dune-adaptation/851788/86 "2020-09-10T02:45:13Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > > [@msmith537](#): > > > > I do take issue with the Pink Floyd song though. It fits in with the trailer, but the Dune universe is so far into the future and alien from our own that I find any connection to ours a bit…offputting. But who knows? maybe Dark Side of the Moon ends up standing the test of time? > > Huh, I liked it for much the same reason. _Dune_ is great, but I think it’s very much of its time, as is Pink Floyd. I just looked up their respective dates, and it turns out that Pink Floyd formed the same year–1965–that Dune was published. > > So for me, the song resonates: we’re watching a period piece. I just read Dune for the first time this past year. So to a certain extent, a lot of it seemed familiar, having already seen 2 adaptations and 40+ years of derivative work. I wouldn’t mind if Pink Floyd produced a totally original score for the film. Even if the song did fit the trailer, the universe of Dune is so far removed from our own, I just found it a bit jarring to hear a song I immediately recognize as “contemporary Earth tune”. I mean even though Toto wrote the score for the 1984 version, they didn’t use ‘Africa’ in the trailers. But that’s really a minor complaint. ---
**Author:** ![Tibby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tibby/32/17030_2.png) [@Tibby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tibby)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2020, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-dune-adaptation/851788/87 "2020-09-10T02:54:35Z")
When I read Dune originally, I imagined a sepia-tone universe. I’m happy the new trailer shows sepia-toned cinematography. ---
**Author:** ![rejemy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/898d66/32.png) [@rejemy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rejemy)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2020, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-dune-adaptation/851788/88 "2020-09-10T03:05:52Z")
I had to restart the thing twice to understand Paul’s first lines, after that I was so distracted by the Pink Floyd cover music I had a hard time paying attention to what was going on. I like Pink Floyd as much as the next guy, more maybe, but it seemed a really odd choice. Really took me out of the fantasy that this was an unimaginable place 8000 years in the future. I can’t help but wonder if they chose that song just because of the prominent “eclipse” motif of the logo artwork. I guess it looked fine, if somewhat unimaginative. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2020, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-dune-adaptation/851788/89 "2020-09-10T03:52:15Z")
> [@msmith537](#): > > I wouldn’t mind if Pink Floyd produced a totally original score for the film. Even if the song did fit the trailer, the universe of Dune is so far removed from our own, I just found it a bit jarring to hear a song I immediately recognize as “contemporary Earth tune”. I mean even though Toto wrote the score for the 1984 version, they didn’t use ‘Africa’ in the trailers. Concur. It’s kind of like Daft Punk doing the score of Tron Legacy. It was amazing…but it would have been less so if the soundtrack contained a remix of Around the World or One More Time. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2020, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-dune-adaptation/851788/90 "2020-09-10T05:38:28Z")
Paul’s Fremen name, Maud’dib, is also the name of Arrakis’ second moon - so the lyric, “Everything under the sun is in tune, but the sun is eclipsed by the moon,” is some pretty excellent symbology for Paul overthrowing the Empire. I can forgive it for taking me out of the moment for a bit just for that. I still hope the song isn’t in the actual movie, except maybe over the credits. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2020, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-dune-adaptation/851788/91 "2020-09-10T06:23:51Z")
I didn’t find the tune distracting at all - primarily because I didn’t recognize it as a cover (not a PF fan). I suspect that will be the case with a lot of the trailer audience. Dopers really need to get past how niche dinosaur rock is nowadays. ---
**Author:** ![PlaceboTarget](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/placebotarget/32/1073_2.png) [@PlaceboTarget](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlaceboTarget)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2020, 6:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-dune-adaptation/851788/92 "2020-09-10T06:38:20Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > Dopers really need to get past how niche dinosaur rock is nowadays. There’s nothing to get past. The fact that every type of high quality music is niche nowadays is a truism. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2020, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-dune-adaptation/851788/93 "2020-09-10T06:44:37Z")
Only if you consider dinosaur rock “high quality”… ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2020, 6:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-dune-adaptation/851788/94 "2020-09-10T06:51:56Z")
_I_ do. Is there something wrong with that? (Although I’ve never been a big fan of Pink Floyd - their music is technically proficient but soulless and clinical). ---
**Author:** ![PlaceboTarget](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/placebotarget/32/1073_2.png) [@PlaceboTarget](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlaceboTarget)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2020, 7:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-dune-adaptation/851788/95 "2020-09-10T07:03:54Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > dinosaur rock If your making use of the term “dinosaur” attempts to belittle this type of music, I must say it achieves nothing. Dinosaur jazz, dinosaur rhythm and blues, or dinosaur choral music are by no means judgement of worth but the expression of one’s inability to see that in art age has nothing to do with value. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2020, 7:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-dune-adaptation/851788/96 "2020-09-10T07:13:12Z")
Nothing wrong with that, it’s your aesthetic choice. Me, I don’t consider it to be high quality just because of its genre. I like _some_ of what I’d call dinosaur rock, but not most. Way too [noodly](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/noodle#h3), for one thing. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2020, 7:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-dune-adaptation/851788/97 "2020-09-10T07:15:21Z")
It’s not called dinosaur rock because it’s old. It’s called dinosaur rock because something more evolved and vital rendered it obsolete as the dominant lifeform in its ecosystem. ---
**Author:** ![PlaceboTarget](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/placebotarget/32/1073_2.png) [@PlaceboTarget](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlaceboTarget)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2020, 7:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-dune-adaptation/851788/98 "2020-09-10T07:27:25Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > It’s called dinosaur rock because There is no cumulative effect in art. No one has ever found any significant correlation between art and evolution. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2020, 7:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-dune-adaptation/851788/99 "2020-09-10T07:28:58Z")
I don’t think you understand “metaphor”. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2020, 7:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-dune-adaptation/851788/100 "2020-09-10T07:44:12Z")
I don’t think you understand evolution. It’s not qualitative - one organism can’t be “more evolved” than another. That’s not how it works. Pedantry aside, you seem to be claiming that one form of art is inherently better than another. That’s a very bold claim, and one that can easily be turned against you. I suggest you stick with “everyone’s entitled to their opinions.” It usually works out better for everyone. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-dune-adaptation/851788.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-dune-adaptation/851788.md?page=6)