# THE NEW SEVEN WONDERS OF THE WORLD Vote Now!

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**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [February 18, 2006, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-seven-wonders-of-the-world-vote-now/345116 "2006-02-18T20:15:46Z")\
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**Author:** ![Mangosteen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Mangosteen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangosteen)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2006, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-seven-wonders-of-the-world-vote-now/345116/1 "2006-02-18T20:15:46Z")

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There’s a group trying to put together a new list of the Seven Wonders of the World. There are 21 nominees and you can vote for your “seven”.

Here’s the list of nominees:

01 Acropolis, Athens, Greece  
02 Alhambra, Granada, Spain  
03 Angkor, Cambodia  
04 Chichen Itza, Yucatan, Mexico  
05 Christ Redeemer, Rio de Janeiro, Brazil  
06 Colosseum, Rome, Italy  
07 Easter Island Statues, Chile  
08 Eiffel Tower, Paris, France  
09 Great Wall, China  
10 Hagia Sophia, Istanbul, Turkey  
11 Kyomizu Temple, Kyoto, Japan  
12 Kremlin/St.Basil, Moscow, Russia  
13 Machu Picchu, Peru  
14 Neuschwanstein Castle, Füssen, Germany  
15 Petra, Jordan  
16 Pyramids of Giza, Egypt  
17 Statue of Liberty, New York, USA  
18 Stonehenge, Amesbury, United Kingdom  
19 Sydney Opera House, Australia  
20 Taj Mahal, Agra, India  
21 Timbuktu, Mali  
Here’s the website:

[http://www.new7wonders.com/index.php?id=307](http://www.new7wonders.com/index.php?id=307)

Here’s mine:

Angkor Wat  
Colosseum  
Easter Island  
Kyomizu Temple (been there)  
Petra  
Pyramids  
Taj Mahal (been there)

What are your picks?

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**Author:** ![Ice\_Wolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/dfb087/32.png) [@Ice\_Wolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ice_Wolf)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2006, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-seven-wonders-of-the-world-vote-now/345116/2 "2006-02-18T21:37:12Z")

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Angkor Wat  
Chichen Itza  
Christ Redeemer  
Eiffel Tower  
Great Wall of China  
Petra  
Pyramids of Giza

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**Author:** ![Shagnasty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2006, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-seven-wonders-of-the-world-vote-now/345116/3 "2006-02-18T21:41:17Z")

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06 Colosseum, Rome, Italy  
07 Easter Island Statues, Chile  
09 Great Wall, China  
12 Kremlin/St.Basil, Moscow, Russia  
13 Machu Picchu, Peru  
16 Pyramids of Giza, Egypt  
20 Taj Mahal, Agra, India

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**Author:** ![Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bc8723/32.png) [@Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fish)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2006, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-seven-wonders-of-the-world-vote-now/345116/4 "2006-02-18T22:14:09Z")

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One from each continent except Antarctica — one from the Middle East to make up for it. Too bad the one from Australia wasn’t also a relic of an ancient civilization.

18 Stonehenge, Amesbury, United Kingdom  
09 Great Wall, China  
16 Pyramids of Giza, Egypt  
07 Easter Island Statues, Chile  
04 Chichen Itza, Yucatan, Mexico  
15 Petra, Jordan  
19 Sydney Opera House, Australia

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**Author:** ![JThunder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e95f7d/32.png) [@JThunder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JThunder)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2006, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-seven-wonders-of-the-world-vote-now/345116/5 "2006-02-18T23:02:39Z")

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Ali Landry should be somewhere on that list.

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**Author:** ![Kingspades](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecae2f/32.png) [@Kingspades](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kingspades)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2006, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-seven-wonders-of-the-world-vote-now/345116/6 "2006-02-18T23:08:52Z")

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What’s the big debate? The Seven Wonders of the Modern World are the Manhattan Project, the Apollo Program, the United Nations, the Cure for Cancer, SETI, the Hoover Dam and Women’s Suffrage.

Once you’ve got all that, you can build nuclear weapons and spaceships, see the whole world map, and have other leaders offer you peace in negotiations. You also get free happy people and hydroelectric power in every city, double your science output, and can move troops into the field without causing riots.

(The sad thing is that I did most of that from memory)

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**Author:** ![chiroptera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/df705f/32.png) [@chiroptera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chiroptera)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2006, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-seven-wonders-of-the-world-vote-now/345116/7 "2006-02-18T23:13:06Z")

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Cool, I’ve actually visited seven of those. 🙂  
I vote for them, since I know they’re real. I haven’t seen the others. How do I know they really exist?

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**Author:** ![Strinka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/strinka/32/512_2.png) [@Strinka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Strinka)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2006, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-seven-wonders-of-the-world-vote-now/345116/8 "2006-02-18T23:38:10Z")

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Why do we have to choose seven? Why can’t they all be considered wonders? They are all really wonderful. 😉 Although, I do think they should be grouped by era. The Eiffel tower and Neushwannstein are impressive they’re not in the same league as the Pyrimads and the Great Wall.

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**Author:** ![cactus\_waltz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@cactus\_waltz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cactus_waltz)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2006, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-seven-wonders-of-the-world-vote-now/345116/9 "2006-02-19T00:33:27Z")

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Correct me if I’m wrong, but weren’t some of these in the “old” list of seven wonders? Namely, the pyramids and the great wall of China?

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**Author:** ![Nancarrow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c37758/32.png) [@Nancarrow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nancarrow)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2006, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-seven-wonders-of-the-world-vote-now/345116/10 "2006-02-19T01:08:20Z")

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> [@cactus waltz](#):
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> Correct me if I’m wrong, but weren’t some of these in the “old” list of seven wonders? Namely, the pyramids and the great wall of China?

The pyramids were, but not the great wall of china (well, except in the context **Kingspades** provided 😛 Oh and the Hagia Sophia is a WotW in Civ:Call to Power which is my particular poison)

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**Author:** ![OtakuLoki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ac8455/32.png) [@OtakuLoki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OtakuLoki)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2006, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-seven-wonders-of-the-world-vote-now/345116/11 "2006-02-19T01:46:44Z")

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I really do think Uluru should be on the list. It’s not a human wonder, but it is a wonder.

I’d also like to see Chix-… er… the crater near the Yucatan as a wonder.

Of the list:

Petra  
The Taj Mahal  
The Great Wall of China  
Macchu Picchu  
The Pyramids of Giza (to differentiate them from all the other pyramids.)  
Kyomizu Temple

And the other vote going to my two natural “wonders”

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**Author:** ![even\_sven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/dfb087/32.png) [@even\_sven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/even_sven)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2006, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-seven-wonders-of-the-world-vote-now/345116/12 "2006-02-19T02:01:29Z")

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I can’t even believe the statue of liberty is on there. I mean, it’s cool and all. But it’s not particularly interesting outside of it’s cultural context. Makes it hard to take this poll seriously.

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**Author:** ![OtakuLoki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ac8455/32.png) [@OtakuLoki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OtakuLoki)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2006, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-seven-wonders-of-the-world-vote-now/345116/13 "2006-02-19T02:04:54Z")

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That and the Eiffel Tower are a bit… odd for the list.

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**Author:** ![Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bc8723/32.png) [@Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fish)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2006, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-seven-wonders-of-the-world-vote-now/345116/14 "2006-02-19T02:26:49Z")

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> [@OtakuLoki](#):
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> I really do think Uluru should be on the list. It’s not a human wonder, but it is a wonder.

Maybe we should make a list of the **natural** wonders of the world.

I fear the only reason the Statue of Liberty is there is so the U.S. has a shot at a wonder of the world. Pretty stupid reason, if you ask me; her designer wasn’t even an American citizen, if I recall.

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**Author:** ![Purd\_Werfect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e47c2d/32.png) [@Purd\_Werfect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Purd_Werfect)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2006, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-seven-wonders-of-the-world-vote-now/345116/15 "2006-02-19T02:34:52Z")

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I’ll vote for the Statue of Liberty. They’re all pretty amazing feats, including the SoL.

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**Author:** ![Fern\_Forest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/71c47a/32.png) [@Fern\_Forest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fern_Forest)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2006, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-seven-wonders-of-the-world-vote-now/345116/16 "2006-02-19T03:55:11Z")

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I have a hard time calling things built by us with modern techniques as wonders. It just seems like something we should be doing so those would be the first I take out.

After that I’d question those where the solution was to throw as many men at it as they could.

What I like are those built with elegance where you can’t really believe how they built it. Ones where the science they used is still very impressive especially when considered against where they were at the time.

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2006, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-seven-wonders-of-the-world-vote-now/345116/17 "2006-02-19T04:18:40Z")

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> [@OtakuLoki](#):
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> That and the Eiffel Tower are a bit… odd for the list.

Ditto the Opera House.

The Great Wall, Pyramids, and the Colosseum have to be on any list, I just can’t see any argument there.

As for the others, Neuschwanstein Castle and Chichen Itza are the only ones which I’ve personally visited. The former would make my list, the latter wouldn’t.

Interestingly, I’ve heard some people discuss Trajan’s Market as being the most impressive structure in ancient Rome.

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2006, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-seven-wonders-of-the-world-vote-now/345116/18 "2006-02-19T04:35:47Z")

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> [@Fern Forest](#):
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> I have a hard time calling things built by us with modern techniques as wonders. It just seems like something we should be doing so those would be the first I take out.

I agree, and if you’re going to include modern technological wonders such as the Eiffel, Lady Liberty, and the Opera House, then items like the Hoover Dam and Panama Canal surpass them, though they lack any artistic value.

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**Author:** ![Ranchoth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranchoth/32/1066_2.png) [@Ranchoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranchoth)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2006, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-seven-wonders-of-the-world-vote-now/345116/19 "2006-02-19T05:16:36Z")

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No Golden Gate Bridge?

C’mon…see it for the first time, looming out of the fog as you leave the Waldo tunnel and tell me it doesn’t belong in the big seven.

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**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2006, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-seven-wonders-of-the-world-vote-now/345116/20 "2006-02-19T06:06:41Z")

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RE: The Eiffel Tower

It was, as the time it was built, the tallest structure in the world. It was almost twice as tall as the former record holder, the Washington Monument (300 m. vs. 169 m.). The use of structural steel as a building material was just becoming commonplace, and it was really a great feat of “modern” engineering.

My list:

The Eiffel Tower  
The Great Wall of China  
The Taj Mahal  
Hagia Sophia  
Neuschwanstein Castle  
Angkor Wat

and, of course,

The Pyramids of Giza (is there any possible argument against this one?)  
On preview, I have to second **Ranchoth** ’s objection to the absence of the Golden Gate Bridge from the list.

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