# The new Superman broods...

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-superman-broods/591562>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [August 5, 2011, 7:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-superman-broods/591562 "2011-08-05T07:18:05Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Mosier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@Mosier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mosier)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2011, 7:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-superman-broods/591562/1 "2011-08-05T07:18:05Z")

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…harder than an Anne Rice vampire.

> **[New Superman Revealed in First Photo From ‘Man of Steel’](https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/blogs/movie-talk/superman-revealed-first-photo-man-steel-165334772.html)**
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> Who's ready to go up, up and away again? The first photo of Henry Cavill in costume as Superman for the new big-screen version entitled "Man of Steel" was just released Thursday morning.  It shows Superman looking like he's rising … Continue...

Not looking forward to it. Blech.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2011, 7:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-superman-broods/591562/2 "2011-08-05T07:27:46Z")

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He looks like the grungy Evil Superman from _Superman III_ in that photo.

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**Author:** ![Foggy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foggy/32/1082_2.png) [@Foggy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Foggy)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2011, 8:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-superman-broods/591562/3 "2011-08-05T08:06:30Z")

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> [@Mosier](#):
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> Not looking forward to it. Blech.

It’s that a bit premature based on just one dark, shadowy photo?

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**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2011, 8:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-superman-broods/591562/4 "2011-08-05T08:13:40Z")

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Looks OK to me-- like the ass-kicking Superman of the 1940s cartoons.

(But then I never liked that smirking Christopher Reeve in the role.)

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**Author:** ![cmkeller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmkeller/32/118_2.png) [@cmkeller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmkeller)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2011, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-superman-broods/591562/5 "2011-08-05T14:25:08Z")

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I totally don’t see how you get that impression from that image.

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**Author:** ![Shark\_Sandwich](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f04885/32.png) [@Shark\_Sandwich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shark_Sandwich)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2011, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-superman-broods/591562/6 "2011-08-05T15:02:26Z")

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What’s with the hair? I’m waiting to see him do a Super FistPump.

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2011, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-superman-broods/591562/7 "2011-08-05T15:20:34Z")

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> [@Foggy](#):
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> It’s that a bit premature based on just one dark, shadowy photo?

It is premature, but this is also possibly the worst picture Warner’s could have used to introduce the new Superman to the world.

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**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2011, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-superman-broods/591562/8 "2011-08-05T15:25:34Z")

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It’s been well received, though it’s clearly a darkknighting of the character. Alas, comic book fans love dark and broody characters, even when they’re wildly inappropriate (e.g., Captain Marvel).

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**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2011, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-superman-broods/591562/9 "2011-08-05T15:27:49Z")

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> [@Foggy](#):
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> It’s that a bit premature based on just one dark, shadowy photo?

Concur with bells on.

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**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2011, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-superman-broods/591562/10 "2011-08-05T16:07:15Z")

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> [@Shark\_Sandwich](#):
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> What’s with the hair? I’m waiting to see him do a Super FistPump.

Like I said, I’m OK with the linked picture, but the hair does look sort of…_big._

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**Author:** ![Grumman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/43a26b/32.png) [@Grumman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grumman)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2011, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-superman-broods/591562/11 "2011-08-05T16:10:26Z")

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Heh, I was able to deduce Zack Snyder’s involvement just from that photo. I don’t know that it means anything - it is Zack Snyder, after all.

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**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2011, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-superman-broods/591562/12 "2011-08-05T16:39:15Z")

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> [@RealityChuck](#):
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> It’s been well received, though it’s clearly a darkknighting of the character. Alas, comic book fans love dark and broody characters, even when they’re wildly inappropriate (e.g., Captain Marvel).

There’s a dark and broody Captain Marvel? I am out of touch.

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**Author:** ![CandidGamera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/candidgamera/32/2878_2.png) [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2011, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-superman-broods/591562/13 "2011-08-05T16:40:34Z")

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I see no brooding, just badassery.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2011, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-superman-broods/591562/14 "2011-08-05T16:42:57Z")

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If that guy had told me he wanted to be Superman for Halloween, I’d have told him that he doesn’t have the look to pull it off. For a movie? Fuhgettaboutit.

And how many bad Superman movies are they going to have to make before they give up on it?

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**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2011, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-superman-broods/591562/15 "2011-08-05T17:37:45Z")

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That’s an awfully long cape. Bet that picks up a lot of dirt.

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2011, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-superman-broods/591562/16 "2011-08-05T17:47:59Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> And how many bad Superman movies are they going to have to make before they give up on it?

SUPERMAN RETURNS – which I agree was bad – grossed $391+ million on a budget of $200 million. CATWOMAN lost money, JONAH HEX lost money, GREEN LANTERN is on track to lose money; why the heck _ **wouldn’t** _ they make another bad Superman movie?

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**Author:** ![Agent\_Foxtrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc29f/32.png) [@Agent\_Foxtrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Agent_Foxtrot)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2011, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-superman-broods/591562/17 "2011-08-05T17:52:37Z")

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> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> SUPERMAN RETURNS – which I agree was bad – grossed $391+ million on a budget of $200 million. CATWOMAN lost money, JONAH HEX lost money, GREEN LANTERN is on track to lose money; why the heck _ **wouldn’t** _ they make another bad Superman movie?

Because they lack the cojones to make a Deadpool movie?

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2011, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-superman-broods/591562/18 "2011-08-05T17:54:51Z")

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Well, I’m still holding out for a _World’s Finest_ movie, so I hope they don’t fuck it up _too_ badly.

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2011, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-superman-broods/591562/19 "2011-08-05T17:55:23Z")

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> [@Agent\_Foxtrot](#):
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> Because they lack the cojones to make a Deadpool movie?

Deadpool is Marvel. Marvel has no problem making a buck off their movies: the X-Men trilogy, the Wolverine spinoff, the First Class flick, the Spider-Man flicks, the Daredevil flick, the Elektra spinoff, the Iron Man movies, the Thor movie, the Captain America movie – all turned a profit. DC? Slimmer pickings.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2011, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-superman-broods/591562/20 "2011-08-05T18:08:51Z")

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I daresay it’s because DC either takes its characters too seriously (thus we get all the Batman brooding and Superman-as-Jesus metaphors) or not seriously enough (thus we get all those painfully unfunny slapstick moments and campiness). Marvel is better at balancing it, thus you can have a serious scene with a out-of-left-field Renn Fair reference and not derail the whole thing.

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