# The new TV season

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-tv-season/595311>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [September 5, 2011, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-tv-season/595311 "2011-09-05T22:14:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-tv-season/595311/21 "2011-09-06T00:16:02Z")

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> [@Stauderhorse](#):
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> House. I keep hearing that the show is ending this season, but I’m not sure how true that is.

Neither is anyone else at present, [according to Hugh Laurie](http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2011/09/houses-hugh-laurie-on-lisa-edelsteins-departure-shows-premature-swan-song.html):

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> “I have a feeling that we’ll all know come February or so, whether this is something that we should be going on with or not.”
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> Of course, the British-born Laurie has become an old hand in the ways of U.S. network TV, and he readily admits that the decision may ultimately be out of the hands of the show’s creative team.
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> “The network and the studio … are doing their own sums all the time and they may say, ‘Do you mind making it in a photo booth now?,’ because dramas are expensive and times are hard and belts are tight,” Laurie says. “We have put off addressing the subject in a very sober way because there are just so many unknowables. Right now, we’re open-ended. I think anything is possible.”

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**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-tv-season/595311/22 "2011-09-06T00:16:15Z")

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> [@RikWriter](#):
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> I’m looking forward to Terra Nova. Hope it’s good.

Last show I remember Fox giving such a huge push was New Amsterdam, which wound up getting a last minute shove into mid-season and instant cancellation. Hopefully this one will fare better.

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**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-tv-season/595311/23 "2011-09-06T00:18:35Z")

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> [@cmyk](#):
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> Also, did **Falling Skies** get another order, and if so, when to expect season 2?

IIRC yes and next summer

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-tv-season/595311/24 "2011-09-06T00:23:31Z")

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[No one is looking forward to Alcatraz?](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcatraz_%28TV_series%29)

I know it comes on in 2012, but I’m looking forward to it for sure.

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-tv-season/595311/25 "2011-09-06T00:27:10Z")

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> [@Lamia](#):
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> I think only some of the original 12 students will be graduating at the end of the coming season (with the others being either a year younger or held back for various reasons), but it seems like most of the kids who’ve had major plots will be seniors in the coming year. The writers have confirmed that Finn, Rachel, and Kurt are graduating, and I assume Quinn and Santana will be too.
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> Part of the reason I have hope that the third season will be an improvement over the second is that with graduation looming the writers may actually start resolving things with these characters.

I heard they’re planning to cut way down on the “theme” episodes – which were the weak ones S2. I hope this is an actual plan and not a wishful rumor.

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**Author:** ![Taomist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@Taomist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taomist)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-tv-season/595311/26 "2011-09-06T00:29:15Z")

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American Horror Story looks mildly interesting, though just from the commercials I really can’t tell why.

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**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-tv-season/595311/27 "2011-09-06T00:33:08Z")

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> [@Two\_Many\_Cats](#):
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> Okay, I took a gander at a"best of" clip of _Mad Men_. Are you kidding me? That’s the best of? The script was such laughably stilted dialog that I couldn’t even sit out the whole four minutes. Plus again, everybody way too pretty. Except the poor nanny help of course. Dumb. Nobody in the world talks the way these people do.
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> _Breaking Bad_ I found less putrid. They had gangsters sitting around a table talking a deal. Suddenly some guy gets killed. Then for no reason the scene gets all artsy and in slow-motion so it quickly becomes detached from any real drama the scene might have otherwise had. Another meh.
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> Sorry, still batting zero here.

Ooof. Alright then, why not just admit you don’t like television, rather than just dissing the good stuff based on watching trailers?

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**Author:** ![Cabin\_Fever\_1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cabin_fever_1/32/2908_2.png) [@Cabin\_Fever\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cabin_Fever_1)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-tv-season/595311/28 "2011-09-06T00:34:21Z")

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I am so out of touch it is not funny. The only thing I make a point of watching is Breaking Bad.

I used to be a TV junkie a few years ago. Now? meh.

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**Author:** ![infinitii](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e8c25b/32.png) [@infinitii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/infinitii)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-tv-season/595311/29 "2011-09-06T00:39:29Z")

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This will be my weekly schedule, until I see some of the newer shows and decide to drop or keep them, and until the networks start shuffling things around to accommodate:

Monday:  
**Terra Nova**  
**2 Broke Girls**  
**Gossip Girl** - I’m a big **Gossip Girl** fan, I just can’t help it.  
**House** - I still love this show.  
**Hart of Dixie** - A new Josh Schwartz show with Rachel Bilson? Yes, please.  
**Alcatraz** (midseason) - Time travel and Alcatraz are two of my favourite things, and JJ Abrams can sometimes make a good show.

Tuesday:  
**Glee** - This comes close to my favourite show right now, and some of the new cast additions have really sparked my interest.  
**New Girl**  
**Ringer** - SMG!!!  
**Apt 23** (midseason)

Wednesday:  
**Happy Endings**  
**Revenge**  
**American Horror Story** - Another Ryan Murphy FX show, I’ll give it a shot.

Thursday:  
**The Big Bang Theory**  
**Community**  
**Person of Interest**  
**Bones** - I totally lost interest last season, but I’ll give it another shot.  
**The Mentalist**  
**The Secret Circle** - Intriguing cast, the CW is really looking my network of choice this season.  
**The Finder** (midseason)

Friday:  
**A Gifted Man**  
**Nikita** - The other contender for my favourite show currently. I can’t believe how good this show is, unfortunately I fear its move to Friday will kill it this season. Oh well.  
**Grimm**

Saturday:  
NOTHING!

Sunday:  
**Once Upon a Time**  
**Pan Am**

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-tv-season/595311/30 "2011-09-06T00:50:20Z")

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> [@infinitii](#):
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> **Grimm**

The one with Donny Jones (Silas Weir Mitchell)? I’m all over that one! Love that guy. He can take it to the edge and hold it or push it over, as is needed.

(looking down my shirt and mouthing, “What would you do?”)

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-tv-season/595311/31 "2011-09-06T00:52:47Z")

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> [@Two\_Many\_Cats](#):
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> Okay, I took a gander at a"best of" clip of _Mad Men_. Are you kidding me? That’s the best of? The script was such laughably stilted dialog that I couldn’t even sit out the whole four minutes. Plus again, everybody way too pretty. Except the poor nanny help of course. Dumb. Nobody in the world talks the way these people do.
> 
> _Breaking Bad_ I found less putrid. They had gangsters sitting around a table talking a deal. Suddenly some guy gets killed. Then for no reason the scene gets all artsy and in slow-motion so it quickly becomes detached from any real drama the scene might have otherwise had. Another meh.
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> Sorry, still batting zero here.

Uh, I don’t watch either of those shows, but you can’t just watch best of trailers to judge a show. Things out of context often seem stilted and so forth.

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**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-tv-season/595311/32 "2011-09-06T00:57:34Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> Uh, I don’t watch either of those shows, but you can’t just watch best of trailers to judge a show. Things out of context often seem stilted and so forth.

+1 billion

ETA: I’ve been watching all kinds of TV for almost 40 years now, I’d argue that prime-time television is better now than it’s ever been. Of course, 90% of television is crap, but that’s always been the case, even though we have more quantity now.

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-tv-season/595311/33 "2011-09-06T01:01:42Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> That’s a remake of the UK series Prime Suspect. The original starred Helen Mirren and was excellent but I’m doubtful about the remake that stars Maria Bello.

Oh, dear, I was afraid when I saw the title that this was the case. From the trailers, it looks very much as if they took the title, filed off the serial numbers, and attached a show that has a completely different concept to it. ☹

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**Author:** ![Two\_Many\_Cats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8dc957/32.png) [@Two\_Many\_Cats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Two_Many_Cats)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-tv-season/595311/34 "2011-09-06T01:07:21Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> Uh, I don’t watch either of those shows, but you can’t just watch best of trailers to judge a show. Things out of context often seem stilted and so forth.

No. _Mad Men’s_ dialog is just plain stilted. In four minutes of their “best” clips, they couldn’t show a single believeable line? Sorry, I grew up on shows like _All in the Family_, _Gunsmoke_, _Barney Miller_ and others. Now, those had writers who could do convincing dialog. If you had never seen any of those programs, and watched best of clips from those shows, you can bet you would at least be able to sit though four minutes without cringing in derision.

Maybe I should watch a newer show end to end. But they’re all like soap operas now. You have to watch a whole damn season for anything to happen. Maybe the old programs deserved criticism for neatly solving problems in an hour or less. But there’s something to be said for a succinct storyline.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-tv-season/595311/35 "2011-09-06T01:09:56Z")

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Seriously? You’re judging a show based on a four-minute clip of it? And not just any show, but one of the most critically acclaimed shows of recent years.

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**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-tv-season/595311/36 "2011-09-06T01:16:22Z")

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Is this sort of like one of those _“The only good music, was [whatever music you listened to when you were growing up], because the stuff now, is just noise and crap. Crappy noise.”_ things?

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**Author:** ![Two\_Many\_Cats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8dc957/32.png) [@Two\_Many\_Cats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Two_Many_Cats)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-tv-season/595311/37 "2011-09-06T01:16:25Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> Seriously? You’re judging a show based on a four-minute clip of it? And not just any show, but one of the most critically acclaimed shows of recent years.

Not just a four-minute clip. A best of clip, specially chosen to draw in viewers. And if that’s the most critically acclaimed show of recent years, then recent years have sucked worse than I thought.

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**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-tv-season/595311/38 "2011-09-06T01:17:24Z")

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> [@Two\_Many\_Cats](#):
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> Not just a four-minute clip. A best of clip, specially chosen to draw in viewers. And if that’s the most critically acclaimed show of recent years, then recent years have sucked worse than I thought.

So you haven’t watched TV in years. _Any_ prime-time show?

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**Author:** ![Two\_Many\_Cats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8dc957/32.png) [@Two\_Many\_Cats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Two_Many_Cats)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-tv-season/595311/39 "2011-09-06T01:19:50Z")

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> [@cmyk](#):
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> Is this sort of like one of those _“The only good music, was [whatever music you listened to when you were growing up], because the stuff now, is just noise and crap. Crappy noise.”_ things?

There’s something of that, true. But really, I’m just sick of wanting to vomit whenever I watch TV that’s not a documentary or a thirty year old rerun.

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**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-new-tv-season/595311/40 "2011-09-06T01:22:44Z")

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> [@cmyk](#):
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> Anyone not highly anticipating NBC’s new concept/drama **Awake,** is outta their goddamn minds! 😉
> 
> Watch this [trailer](http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=%2F&gl=US#/watch?v=CfPVoiQKFvk) for it and tell me I’m wrong.

[This](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfPVoiQKFvk)? Yer link got hashed.

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